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Old 08-19-2013, 12:31 AM   #1
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I love it because, when you really look at it, Triple H's character has been a gigantic asshole ever since he became an official figurehead. He's constantly sticking his nose where it doesn't belong, etc. but the crowd just chants his name and supports him.

Now he'll get booed as he should be.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:35 AM   #2
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someone please check on Afterlife to see if he is ok
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:39 AM   #3
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someone please check on Afterlife to see if he is ok
Just spoke to him... He actually liked the ending to the PPV said, Bryan won clean, HHH is heel, and Orton hasn't won like he has the past 3 years.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:35 AM   #4
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Absolutely loved the finish to the PPV. Bryan gets his moment, then it is snatched away just like that. He's allowed to celebrate juuuuuuust long enough to feel like it's sinking in, then Orton's music hits. Then he walks away and Bryan thinks he's off the hook, then BAM Pedigree. Fantastic. I love how it's a genuinely good angle because Bryan is so over with both the "mark" crowd AND the "smark" crowd. Sometimes you gotta just stomach punch everybody for good storytelling.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:42 AM   #5
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Absolutely loved the finish to the PPV. Bryan gets his moment, then it is snatched away just like that. He's allowed to celebrate juuuuuuust long enough to feel like it's sinking in, then Orton's music hits. Then he walks away and Bryan thinks he's off the hook, then BAM Pedigree. Fantastic. I love how it's a genuinely good angle because Bryan is so over with both the "mark" crowd AND the "smark" crowd. Sometimes you gotta just stomach punch everybody for good storytelling.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:36 AM   #6
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As an aside, so hilarious to think of Batista and Ric Flair as tag team champions
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:39 AM   #7
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Srsly how awesome would it be if Raw opened tomorrow with the Evolution theme and they all just came out. Huge.
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Srsly how awesome would it be if Raw opened tomorrow with the Evolution theme and they all just came out. Huge.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:41 AM   #9
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Wiki has fixed itself but Triple H is still a massive cunt.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:44 AM   #10
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Even look at the replies in this thread here. All the DBry "smart" fans are saying things like OMG HHH HUGE CUNT!!!!!

Being a heel in 2013 isn't only about making the 12 year old kids in attendance boo. WWE is smarter than most people here give them credit for.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:48 AM   #11
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Even look at the replies in this thread here. All the DBry "smart" fans are saying things like OMG HHH HUGE CUNT!!!!!

Being a heel in 2013 isn't only about making the 12 year old kids in attendance boo. WWE is smarter than most people here give them credit for.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:48 AM   #12
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Loved the ending to the show. It was done pretty perfectly. As mr. doggy dogg said, Bryan got to celebrate just long enough after beating Cena clean and then Orton's timing was perfect, as was Triple H's. Bryan is now positioned to be more sympathetic than ever. I can't wait to see how he makes life hell for the boss.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:58 AM   #13
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They needed a number #1 heel. I don't see how anyone can crap on the ending. I only crapped on MITB's ending because I blew money going to the event even though they were setting up tonight at MITB. The crowd may not go home happy tonight but people are talking about it. They got an emotional response.
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Old 08-19-2013, 01:00 AM   #14
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People are buzzing about Bryan being screwed. Now is his real time to shine. The only thing that can damper him is if the WWE have him get stream-rolled too often, but I think they've learned not to do that with guys. He got to beat Cena clean tonight.
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Old 08-19-2013, 02:18 AM   #15
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People are buzzing about Bryan being screwed. Now is his real time to shine. The only thing that can damper him is if the WWE have him get stream-rolled too often, but I think they've learned not to do that with guys. He got to beat Cena clean tonight.
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Old 08-19-2013, 01:01 AM   #16
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I wonder how soon it will be before we see Triple H vs. Daniel Bryan? As early as Night of Champions? That would be a pretty great match. Triple H just needs to make sure he taps, taps, taps for Bryan to make him a mega-star.
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Old 08-19-2013, 01:02 AM   #17
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My heart was disappointed when Christian lost the World Title match, but my brain thinks it is a good decision to build up Del Rio. I kind of like the idea of him trying to be a Mexican Bret Hart.
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Old 08-19-2013, 01:08 AM   #18
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I didn't see it, but it sounds like VERY good booking to me, at least up until this point. Bryan looks incredibly strong in beating Cena clean, and also already has a clean win over Orton, so Orton needed to sink to new lows to beat him. It makes him the ultimate sympathetic babyface. If the follow through is delivered properly then this will lead to great t.v. They just have a tendency to lose direction... but they could have done that if Bryan left Summerslam as champion. So it really makes no difference. Bryan is a legit top guy now.
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Old 08-19-2013, 01:23 AM   #19
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They could've made Bryan tonight by just having him beat both guys. I don't like leaving it up to long term booking because WWE cannot book a long term feud, they just can't. They always ruin it. Everyone is excited about the chase but the chase probably isn't going to happen. Bryan will probably be involved in the World Title scene for another 2 months until WWE gets another idea and Orton will just move on to another opponent. I know as a WWE fan that if they don't do something when it should be done, it will probably never happen. They are far too short sighted. I don't think Bryan will ever be the big deal he could've been if he just beat both guys tonight. Bryan will either naturally lose momentum from this or Triple H will just cleanly beat him on PPV in a month.

I wish I could have all of your optimism, but I've just been watching for too long. This will be completely ruined now. It's not ruined because what happened tonight. It's ruined because WWE cant book long term.
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Old 08-19-2013, 01:29 AM   #20
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They could've made Bryan tonight by just having him beat both guys. I don't like leaving it up to long term booking because WWE cannot book a long term feud, they just can't. They always ruin it. Everyone is excited about the chase but the chase probably isn't going to happen. Bryan will probably be involved in the World Title scene for another 2 months until WWE gets another idea and Orton will just move on to another opponent. I know as a WWE fan that if they don't do something when it should be done, it will probably never happen. They are far too short sighted. I don't think Bryan will ever be the big deal he could've been if he just beat both guys tonight. Bryan will either naturally lose momentum from this or Triple H will just cleanly beat him on PPV in a month.

I wish I could have all of your optimism, but I've just been watching for too long. This will be completely ruined now. It's not ruined because what happened tonight. It's ruined because WWE cant book long term.
But that short sited-ness wouldn't change things even if he beat both guys. Doesn't mean shit if he beats both guys and loses the title clean to someone in 4 months and has a shitty title reign. I'd rather him have a hot angle leading out of summerslam than him just winning the titles and having a less hostile feud with Orton. If it works out it works out, if it doesn't it doesn't. The cream rises to the top regardless
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But that short sited-ness wouldn't change things even if he beat both guys. Doesn't mean shit if he beats both guys and loses the title clean to someone in 4 months and has a shitty title reign. I'd rather him have a hot angle leading out of summerslam than him just winning the titles and having a less hostile feud with Orton. If it works out it works out, if it doesn't it doesn't. The cream rises to the top regardless
If I asked you who beat The Rock and Stone Cold in the same night to become the Undisputed Heavyweight Champion you'd probably know the answer, would you not? That title run was a particularly shitty one as well but you'll always remember what he did to win the title. It would've put him on the map right now, regardless if they fucked it up in 3 months. I don't know how WWE just can't let people have their moment. Everyone always complains that there will never be another Rock or Austin. This is why.
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Old 08-19-2013, 01:56 AM   #22
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If I asked you who beat The Rock and Stone Cold in the same night to become the Undisputed Heavyweight Champion you'd probably know the answer, would you not? That title run was a particularly shitty one as well but you'll always remember what he did to win the title. It would've put him on the map right now, regardless if they fucked it up in 3 months. I don't know how WWE just can't let people have their moment. Everyone always complains that there will never be another Rock or Austin. This is why.
people remember but it was not really his moment nor did it make him in any way. That title run did more to hurt jericho, the defeating austin and rock is more a footnote than anything
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I would normally agree that WWE can't book long term, but I don't know about this one. It was a good build up, good match, good finish, good swerve. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt this time.

Normally they would do something like this just to bury the guy and cause us smarks to hate on WWE, but I didn't feel like that with this. I actually got the impression that they knew what they were doing tonight, and they know what they have with Bryan.

I could always be wrong, but something about this angle just feels different than the normal bullshit they do. It was a punch to the gut for me, it hurt, but I loved it.
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They could've made Bryan tonight by just having him beat both guys. I don't like leaving it up to long term booking because WWE cannot book a long term feud, they just can't. They always ruin it. Everyone is excited about the chase but the chase probably isn't going to happen. Bryan will probably be involved in the World Title scene for another 2 months until WWE gets another idea and Orton will just move on to another opponent. I know as a WWE fan that if they don't do something when it should be done, it will probably never happen. They are far too short sighted. I don't think Bryan will ever be the big deal he could've been if he just beat both guys tonight. Bryan will either naturally lose momentum from this or Triple H will just cleanly beat him on PPV in a month.

I wish I could have all of your optimism, but I've just been watching for too long. This will be completely ruined now. It's not ruined because what happened tonight. It's ruined because WWE cant book long term.
Maybe you should not watch anymore
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Bryan is going to be used as the main Baby Face for awhile, Cena has to have surgrey, he HAS to be in the long term booking. WWE didn't do this for the hell of it, it was a pretty big deal and they aren't going to ruin it.
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Old 08-19-2013, 01:44 AM   #26
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WWE didn't do this for the hell of it, it was a pretty big deal and they aren't going to ruin it.
I've seen what WWE can do. Please don't jinx it on top of it.
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As long as Bryan eventually gets his Title moment... Maybe around Survivor Series? Will be all peaches. I see the logic behind tonight but just hope it doesn't lead to nothing. As others have said WWE doesn't have a great record for long term booking least when it doesn't include Rock or Cena. Only time will tell which way this goes.
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Old 08-19-2013, 02:23 AM   #28
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As long as Bryan eventually gets his Title moment... Maybe around Survivor Series? Will be all peaches. I see the logic behind tonight but just hope it doesn't lead to nothing. As others have said WWE doesn't have a great record for long term booking least when it doesn't include Rock or Cena. Only time will tell which way this goes.
If he doesn't get the belt by Survivor Series, the safe bet from everywhere seems to be him winning the Rumble and then getting the belt at Mania.

Meltzer (Wrestling Observer) thinks the current plan is for a short Bryan-Orton feud and then Bryan swaps out with either Cena (assuming he heals quickly) or Punk (Cena needs more time off). Also thinks the WWE wants Orton vs Cena feud to happen at least one more time before Bryan goes back into the title chase.
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Bryan could beat the entire roster in one night and still not be the next Rock or Austin. Just sayin'. At least a good story was told and instead of just burying Orton to give Bryan another win after a grueling match with Cena, you've built a sympathetic underdog face and a new top heel with the backing of the front office at the same time.

I'm not saying they're gonna successfully go through and not fuck the story up. But they've given themself a fucking amazing beginning to work with.
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Awesome fucking PPV, had everything I hoped for and more by a mile, stoked for tomorrow night!
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Show was incredible. Could've done without Kane/Wyatt opener I guess, but the show was so beautifully paced it doesn't matter. Surprised Christian didn't win, but that match far surpassed my expectations. Punk/Lesnar might have been match of the year, and Bryan/Cena was tremendous. Swerve blew my face off and had jaw hanging. Bryan will be over even more. Dunno how someone can't at least like this a little
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Shit man I dunno, the whole taking Kane with them thing kinda has me interested a bit honestly.
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Just finished watching this show.

F'N BUSHWA WORST SUMMERSLAM EVER. CHRISTIAN WAS ROBBED, TOTALLY PINNED ADR WHILE HE WAS IN THE CROSS ARMBREAKER. CHRISTIAN WAS SCREWED. SCREWJOB 2013.
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Just finished watching this show.

]F'N BUSHWA WORST SUMMERSLAM EVER. CHRISTIAN WAS ROBBED, TOTALLY PINNED ADR WHILE HE WAS IN THE CROSS ARMBREAKER. CHRISTIAN WAS SCREWED. SCREWJOB 2013.
"God damn, I just don’t like his face. His face really bothers me.” -Vinny Mac. Vince isn't crazy about Christian. He didn't give his life and soul to the WWE, which is required if you want to work for him.

Exceptions? For instance, the bella's. They can't even wrestle that is why TNA didn't pick them up.
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Old 08-19-2013, 04:02 AM   #35
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I have enjoyed Brie Bella's in-ring work as of late. D-Bry rubbing off on her
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Old 08-19-2013, 05:10 AM   #36
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I bet he 'rubs off on her' a lot
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Old 08-19-2013, 05:52 AM   #37
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Loved the PPV. The ending had a good old fashion "face gets screwed/heel turn" feel to it. Can't wait to see where this goes.

Bryan and Orton have have had some good matches together, so I'm excited to see them in a real feud.
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Old 08-19-2013, 07:06 AM   #38
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I give Summerslam an 8/10 on spazz outs.

There's plenty of crying and complaining going on in here, and it's pretty great, but there's also a few who seem to be fine with the direction they're taking it in and understand it was well booked.

Could've been a 10/10 show on the spazzometer if Cena would've won though. Shame.
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Great show. Lesnar-Punk seemed to go on for ever but was one of the best matches I can ever recall seeing in a non-wrestling hyperbole way. Then the main event and ending and Hunter instead of Vince doing the screwing got me. Can't wait for tomorrow. Job done.
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If I could change one thing I would have had Bryan get screwed before he even got to tough the title, as soon as he wins have Cena carried off, Ortons Music hits, do the screw Job all before DB ever gets to touch the belt.
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