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Old 11-09-2014, 02:33 PM   #1
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We're getting into a realm of implicating me with the harassment, and if you wanna take it there I hope you're ready to discuss that.
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Old 11-09-2014, 04:02 PM   #2
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It doesn't matter if it's harassment or not. It's not a good thing to be a part of. You wouldn't have done it if everyone else wasn't doing it.
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Old 11-09-2014, 04:02 PM   #3
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Neither is making feminist critiques of video-games.
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Old 11-09-2014, 04:04 PM   #4
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Old 11-09-2014, 04:06 PM   #5
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Every time someone tells someone else that they shouldn't exercise free speech because it isn't good for them, I am reminded how self-serving people can be.
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Every time someone tells someone else that they shouldn't exercise free speech because it isn't good for them, I am reminded how self-serving people can be.
This is an automated response to a DTTS post. Stop talking, you're being emotional. Just shut up and come back when you're speaking sense.
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Old 11-09-2014, 04:11 PM   #7
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Kalyx, I'm not labelling you, I'm just trying to work out what was going through your head when you wrote your "ebonies and latinas" thing. Because it was as pompous as it gets. Forget her for a moment, everyone has to answer for their own actions lest they just be devolving into a game of tit for tat. Do you not think you were getting a little bit swept up in the crowd there? It's public behaviour. I regret everything in my entire life, I'm more worried if you don't think those tweets seem silly on reflection.
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Old 11-09-2014, 05:25 PM   #9
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It doesn't matter if it's harassment or not. It's not a good thing to be a part of. You wouldn't have done it if everyone else wasn't doing it.
Nah buddy you took it to this point and I'd like you to follow through. And it damn sure matters if it's harassment or not because if you're trying to tell me I was 'being mean'; fuck that get over it.

And I've tweeted to Anita way before GamerGate. You wanna take a look at my tweets to build a case - take a look at my tweets. Let's do this.

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Do you not think you were getting a little bit swept up in the crowd there? It's public behaviour. I regret everything in my entire life, I'm more worried if you don't think those tweets seem silly on reflection.
Nope, I stand by it.

These Bay area hipster kids are talking about how dangerous their lives are, all over non-credible threats. It is incomparable to what minority women deal with on a day to day. Not one credible threat. Nobody hurt. Ever. I was reacting to that NYC "street harassment" vid going around. I was vexed at the time, I'll admit that much.
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Old 11-09-2014, 04:21 PM   #10
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Tweets are silly by design. It is hard to put meaningful rational arguments into 140 characters.
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Old 11-09-2014, 05:29 PM   #11
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O/T What was your take on the NYC Street Harassment video and the ensuing backlash?
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Old 11-09-2014, 05:49 PM   #12
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Before I was annoyed I found it hilarious. New York is a funny place.
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Old 11-09-2014, 05:31 PM   #13
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I started watching it and thought some of the guys were well within the standards just saying hello to a pretty woman, most of the later ones freaked me out a bit.
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Old 11-11-2014, 08:29 AM   #14
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I started watching it and thought some of the guys were well within the standards just saying hello to a pretty woman, most of the later ones freaked me out a bit.
To be honest, I have a problem with men deciding what counts as street harassment or not. Really it's the person having "hello" shouted at them randomly in the street who decides whether they feel threatened by that or not. Then, if you take part in that behaviour, it's up to the individual to decide whether they care that they may be making someone feel uncomfortable.

I personally always cringe inwardly when I see some bloke shout at a woman in the street or passive-aggressively comment, I've seen loudmouth friends do it probably not realise they're part of a pattern. I also know my wife feels it is vaguely threatening when some guy calls out to her when she's walking or running. It's obviously not exactly India or anything, but there is a spectrum of behaviour. Realistically, no man has to deal with it on a daily basis so it's not really for us to say what is acceptable or not, moreso to decide whether it's really necessary for us to randomly say "hello" to a stranger we happen to find attractive.
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Old 11-09-2014, 05:55 PM   #15
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I've only been there twice. Reminded me of Bourbon street in New Orleans. Feels very different from Chicago or any "city" in Florida.
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Old 11-09-2014, 06:06 PM   #16
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I'd love for the "actress" to attempt that same experiment at our Aventura Mall.
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Old 11-09-2014, 06:21 PM   #17
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I suspect I need more context. Anyway, out for a bit.
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Kalyx doing his droford term, revelling in the suffering of others. How can he do the 'your suffering is relative' schtick and not just continue to talking about starving orphans in Africa. What do your ebonies and latinas think of those?
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Old 11-09-2014, 06:33 PM   #19
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Starving orphans =/= Mean tweets
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But suffering is relative? Your ebonies and latinas live in USA #1, they have a world of opportunity ahead of them.
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Old 11-09-2014, 07:41 PM   #21
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But suffering is relative? Your ebonies and latinas live in USA #1, they have a world of opportunity ahead of them.
They do.

Ya know, what you call suffering just may not be what I would call suffering. This is the secret power of professional victims, or really anybody who thinks being offended is something they should be protected from: They get to turn the knob on what is and isn't an offense. When you play with words, terms, and definitions you can also widen the scope of what the public should respond to.

One woman's 'suffering' of "street harassment" is another woman's Tuesday at South Beach. We can't possibly account for how people take things a certain way (a major point of contention with SJWs now that I think about it).

But anyway yeah; you've used 'suffering' and even mentioned actual suffering (famine) to highlight what? That all suffering is equal, so long as you apply the word to whatever? You don't believe that.

Anita's just wallowing in despair with her self promotion on Comedy Central.
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The part of the video that really stood out was the weirdo walking next to the girl for like 4 minutes straight.

The jerk who kept asking if he was too ugly kind of pissed me off.

What was interesting to me was how the video was then decried as racist by SJWs in need of a new witch to burn. Because, since a lot of people with little education and low-paying jobs check a box that says "not white", it's racist to show the problems inherent among uneducated and low-paying adult men.

Which brings me back to my focus of reforming education in America and growing the economy. Men with high-school educations, college defrees and career options don't stand on the street getting mad at women for not knowing they have huge cocks.
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I'm thinking the guy who walked next to her was simply going that direction. Only the people recording knows for sure and they're certainly interested in making it look as creepy as possible.
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I'm thinking the guy who walked next to her was simply going that direction. Only the people recording knows for sure and they're certainly interested in making it look as creepy as possible.
Come off it.
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really hate that this thread is still here. keep telling myself I wont go back in here but days roll on and here it is. tempting me point how activism over gaming is one of the biggest wastes in energy imaginable. if only this effort went to things that would be constructive we may actually make some progress as a nation.

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really hate that this thread is still here. keep telling myself I wont go back in here but days roll on and here it is. tempting me point how activism over gaming is one of the biggest wastes in energy imaginable. if only this effort went to things that would be constructive we may actually make some progress as a nation.

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Old 11-11-2014, 09:03 AM   #30
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On one hand, Kalyx actually talks about legit issues with game journalism and that makes him sound like he's different from the bottom feeders in GG.

Then, he uses SJW as an insult (you know my stance on that) and tends to mansplain things.

It's really disheartening, and I feel he's better than that.
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Old 11-11-2014, 11:59 AM   #31
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There's no such thing as 'mansplaining', and even so it's just bizarre that a dude is calling me on that. It's just another facet of tone policing that, yes, SJWs like to use to control the conversation.

Have you considered that I'm a guy with legit points, and the negatives you pointed out are only things you've been told to seek out by the very people who would disagree with me? Consider that these things aren't even refutations of whatever I believe. How I use SJW as a term? "Mansplaining"? It isn't discussion or refutation to point that out, it's an easy out. It 100% leads to, "Well I'm not talking to you or taking you seriously because ________."

I feel you are better than that, honestly.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:23 PM   #32
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A dude has no purpose telling a woman how she should feel about anything. People have the right to feel uncomfortable.

I say this as a person who gives off creepy vibes.
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Old 11-11-2014, 01:40 PM   #33
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A dude has no purpose telling a woman how she should feel about anything.
Well ain't that a bitch.

Consider that all somebody like Anita Sarkeesian and some female game journalist do is tell men exactly how they should feel.

We have social norms established where we can see a person's reaction and determine whether somebody is either going over the line, or not taking something seriously enough. We can't make such determinations without some sort of interactive constants. But you know that; we do this all the time.

What you're telling me is not to do this in the case of evaluating across gender lines, for no other reason than I'm the man and the one under the microscope is female. I reject this, sorry.

The extreme of this is not being allowed to analyze, promote, or vilify anybody's feelings about anything ever. Because at this point it would be me 'Kalyxsplaining'. I mean, I don't know what Vast goes through so I have no ground to even begin telling him how he should feel about any given action. Even though I'm not telling him how he should so much as asking for a degree of self reflection. But nope - Kalyxsplaining.

You have to know that's bullshit. Don't run with this mansplaining silliness.

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Of course they do. This is the umpteenth time somebody has spun my posts into the blocking/banning of some personable freedom. I can't stop anybody from feeling uncomfortable. I can certainly speak against somebody taking their personal reaction and thinking the world is supposed to spin the other way to appease them.

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Old 11-12-2014, 09:21 AM   #34
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This thread is so odd. What in the fuck. Why are all of these discussion forum posters in here. Feel like the forum is being destroyed before our eyes. What in the fuck is happening
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