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Old 02-02-2022, 12:25 PM   #1
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Shane McMahon & PCO indy tag team darlings for 2022. New England Championship Wrestling will never be the same!
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I really want them to run a "Shane got let go" angle but he bursts through security and keeps interrupting shit. Can imagine Byron Saxton saying "how can Vince keep his own son out of the building????" or some shit.
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That would work better if it was Cole, but Shane's a RAW guy so I gotta work with what's there, brother brother
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That would work better if it was Cole, but Shane's a RAW guy so I gotta work with what's there, brother brother
It’s Mania season, screw the Brand Split, brother. Besides, all the top draws appear on both brands; Lesnar, Ronda, Shane.
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Weird shit. I don’t believe the heat at the Rumble stuff at all. Also, the dude’s grandmother just died. Like this week. Pretty sure the McMahons all have a funeral coming up.

Plans being scrapped? Sure, I buy that. Shane doesn’t want anything to do with the product right now? Also believable. But there’s something else going on. Not saying it’s a work or anything like that, but the story just doesn’t fit. Shane getting “heat” for the Rumble is not why you would cut ties with someone.
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Old 02-02-2022, 01:42 PM   #7
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PWInsider update: https://www.pwinsider.com/article/15...dates.html?p=1

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*Yesterday, there were creative plans for McMahon to be a regular on Raw as a heel leading into Wrestlemania. This afternoon, Shane McMahon was internally pulled from the Raw roster and the word making the rounds was that "the direction has changed."

*The feeling among some is that Shane is taking the brunt of the heat for the poor reception to the Men's Rumble match and that when the heat for that blows over, he'll eventually return in some form down the line.
So sounds like he was "sent home" and his plans were scrapped and could probably still come back at some point later. Maybe not a straight up "firing" since he doesn't work there full time anyway
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Meltzer has kanefirmed the news as well



I think it's wonderful news. Shane won't get to hog a spot on the Mania card. All the talk of him arguing he and Brock should be the final two in the Rumble is hilarious. Then again, Shane tried to propose a Shane vs Brock match at WM a few years ago too.

I for one will not miss his goofy looking punches.
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Shane vs. Austin Theory WrestleMania angle with Vince being involved could have maybe been interesting

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McMahon had been pushing to work Austin Theory at Wrestlemania with the idea playing out of Theory's involvement with Vince McMahon but that wasn't locked 100% in place. There were other forces pushing for Shane McMahon vs. Seth Rollins at Wrestlemania 38. There had been a planned sequence at one point to set up Rollins vs. Shane as a feud in the Men's Rumble match but as part of all the changes leading into the show, Rollins was pulled from the Rumble match.

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Had no clue Shane is Executive Chairman of an electric car company. The guy is probably fucking busy.
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Old 02-02-2022, 01:54 PM   #11
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Wasn’t the guy there with Vince and co. checking out the new Titan Towers after Triple H recovered from his heart attack? This is despite not working there.
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WrestleVotes is reporting this could have a ripple effect that is felt forever, lol.
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The story makes a little more sense when you imagine Shane, not having any sort of official role in the company, actively going and changing a bunch of things like he has any sort of official authority to do so. It would be different if he were assigned the match. Then Bad Bunny gets jerked around and Vince kinda goes “You either work here or you don’t.”

Like, putting yourself in Jamie Noble’s shoes: How do you tell Shane McMahon no, while at the same time he’s technically an outside talent coming in.

If Shane were actually there, I doubt this would have been a firing. But since he’s not, it’s just not an advantageous relationship to either party at the moment.
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He doesn't nearly have the aptitude for the business that Steph has
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You say that but you don't really mean that.
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You say that but you don't really mean that.
Steph has single handedly changed the perception of the company.

Shane just comes up with stupid ideas in creative.
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Shane just comes up with stupid ideas in creative.
For argument’s sake, I will suggest that this is a little reductive. Vince and lots of executives have also been behind the WWE’s corporate change. Although, I will say that this change has probably been their smartest decision ever, and easily the best one they’ve made in the 21st century.

And with Shane I’m not sure it’s aptitude or ability so much as…Steph really, really wants it and he doesn’t care so much. Lots of people will say that he’s jealous or has tried and all that, but he did walk for a number of years to do his own thing. Regardless of how successful that was or wasn’t (and who knows how well Steph would do outside WWE either?), he still left that nest.

Steph has always been the better fit for the company, and the company has suited her. But for a while she was the sibling coming up with stupid ideas in creative too.
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Steph has single handedly changed the perception of the company.
Stephanie is a great businesswoman
She really doesn't get credit for that

She might be an annoying onscreen character but irl she is rather outstanding at behind the scenes stuff
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I'm assuming this means another round of roster releases is incoming
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Possibly. Being profitable doesn’t mean you don’t have a budget.
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Possibly. Being profitable doesn’t mean you don’t have a budget.
They have come to realize that all the cuts has not hurt them from a financial standpoint. They are not a non-profit, there is no reason to employ 300 people if 100 people provide the same results. It is absolutely shitty, but but businesswise it is the right move. I would argue their only mistake was Bray Wyatt, as he was moving a lot of merch. He is probably the only cut that did not make financial sense.

The product quality has certainly suffered, but as long as they are being paid as content creators, they only need to do just enough, and they do still put out some great content mixed in with mostly time killing nonsense.
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Theyre not a non-profit, there is no reason to employ 300 people if 100 people provide the same results. It is absolutely shitty, but but businesswise it is the right move.
in what way is that shitty? if an employee isnt producing enough value to jusitfy their wages why is it shitty to let them go?

Furthermore it doesnt even look like thats whats happening. as you said Wyatt was generating revenue and they still let him go so this notion is shaky from the start.

the reality is spendable operating budgets are getting tighter. the currency has a lower purchasing power (both goods and services cost more to obtain, logistics take a larger percentage of availble operating expenses [and with a touring troupe this hits you from three or four different angles since you have factors like fuel and labor and the like all hitting you directly AND indirectly] etc) and doubly these issues effect your employees as well so you already know wages are going to have to go up when contracts get renegotiated since the employees spendable income has also been impacted. so they have the future increased payroll expense to plan for as well which of course further decreases your spendable operating budget.

then theres the unknown value of R&D of potential new market possibilities that is a completely invisible budgetary value that large companies are always experimenting with one thing or another that in most cases come up as pure loss. the wwe could be looking market potential in a promising avenue that at the present is pure cost that we dont see in slightest. things like video games, the network app, the film studio and developmental territories all started in this phase and at any given time they could have something brewering thats taxing their operating budgets.

tl;dr at a time when the currency is worth less and operating expenses are ballooning to hear people gloat about company X's profits just shows how little they understand about money (let alone business) on a truly fundamental level. $1 dollar today is not $1 tomorrow. they have the economic grasp of a toddler.
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It's why she was on the nominees for the Wrestling Observer Awards. She's won so many awards since she became Chief Brand Officer. Like the Eisenhower Fellow thing she was part of. the International Sports Hall of Fame. Something with the March of Dimes recently. SOOOOO important in terms of rehabbing the image of the company with sponsors and in the business world.

I believe it was Alex Greenfield who comments that Shane would pop in with these off the wall ideas in creative that nobody listened to because they were so "out there"
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It's why she was on the nominees for the Wrestling Observer Awards. She's won so many awards since she became Chief Brand Officer. Like the Eisenhower Fellow thing she was part of. the International Sports Hall of Fame. Something with the March of Dimes recently. SOOOOO important in terms of rehabbing the image of the company with sponsors and in the business world.

I believe it was Alex Greenfield who comments that Shane would pop in with these off the wall ideas in creative that nobody listened to because they were so "out there"
Yeah, that’s true. Point well made.
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I believe it was Alex Greenfield who comments that Shane would pop in with these off the wall ideas in creative that nobody listened to because they were so "out there"
RAW Underground was all Shane.










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the ammount of people who don't understand econ is tragic when inflation rises increased "profits" dont mean more money.
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Nia has given her opinion on shane, everyone can finally relax who was waiting for it
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Old 02-02-2022, 08:02 PM   #31
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i wish there was much an uproar about Steph putting herself over. But lol Shane is such a dinkus
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Old 02-03-2022, 08:43 AM   #34
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One of the stories going around is that, because of how involvement Shane had in restructuring the Rumble, they changed Bad Bunny's entrance number multiple times.

That meant that, presumably, they were changing who he was scheduled to be in the ring with and exactly what he'd be able to do. This is frustrating for a wrestler, but downright unsafe when you're dealing with a non-wrestler that needs prep time and to be carried through their part in the match.

On top of that, there seems to be a feeling that it made WWE look unprofessional in the eyes of a major outside star and his people.
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Old 02-03-2022, 09:39 AM   #35
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Bad Bunny looked better than Shane, hands down. Fuck a number.
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Bad Bunny could legit be a rassler if he wanted.
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Shane fucking sucks. Not sure why anyone would be excited to see him "wrestle".

Only appeal he's ever had was his willingness to jump off high places. Which is very unlikely to ever happen again given his age. Dude was gassed just walking to the ring. Think if he had done his signature shuffle he would have had a stroke right there.
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Shane after 2000 is completely unwatchable
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Nah bruh the street fights with Vince at Mania and with Angle at King of the Ring in 2001 were fantastic

Then he started getting on my nerves during the invasion and I think I was out by the time Kane shocked his testicles
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