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Old 06-17-2006, 05:17 PM   #481
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The first red on the Italian player was justified, no excuse for that embow to the face of McBride.
The second on the American player was a judgment call really, it was a nasty looking two footed challange.
As for the third, it was another recklass challange by a player already on a yellow, so also justified I think.
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Old 06-17-2006, 05:22 PM   #482
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I didn't think the second one was a red, it wouldn't have been a red in the premiership. It was just a bit of a late challenge really.

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Old 06-17-2006, 05:44 PM   #483
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Why the fuck isnt Eddie Johson playing?
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Old 06-17-2006, 05:50 PM   #484
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Worst officiated soccer match I've ever seen
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Old 06-17-2006, 06:10 PM   #485
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apparently the ref couldn't work the last World Cup because he was suspended for crappy officiating

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I will go as far to say that is the biggest US result ever, moreso than any of the games in 2002. Portugal was a big win, but a fluke, and Mexico in South Korea isn't a giant upset. Tying this Italian team with only nine players in the second half on European soil to stay alive, this game was played much better. At least, it is better than 1998, at best a trip to the next round isn't out of reach at all. They've just got to start finishing.

One question, why didn't the US use its last sub for the last 10 minutes or so?
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That was retarded by Arena. He had to use those subs with only 9 guys. Beasley was the only player playing with any energy and its because he was a sub.
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I thought for sure they were going to put him in with 10 minutes left, and the US was still making runs down to the Italian goal at the point. Then they didn't put him in and the US had no possession for the rest of the game. It seems like a replacement for Reyna to play in the defense wouldn't have been a bad move, but it's all good now I guess.
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So now Italy has to beat the Czechs and the USA has to beat Ghana right? In order to get squashed by Brazil?
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Yep. If that scenario happens:

Italy: 7
USA: 4
Ghaha: 3
Czech: 3

I'm not sure, but I think that is the only way it can work. Of course Czech Republic is in if it wins, but if it ties Italy the best the US can do is tie them in points. If the US and Ghana tie, then Ghana would go on with 4 points.
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That was retarded by Arena. He had to use those subs with only 9 guys. Beasley was the only player playing with any energy and its because he was a sub.
You kidding me? He has the worst cardio I've ever seen in football. He was gasping for air after maybe 5 minutes and barely (I didn't see one myself) made proper sprints to chase down balls. Landon Donovan totally showed him.

How his goal never stood however is a fucking mystery.
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That first red card on Mastroeni was rediculous. It was a foul, yes, a yellow card, likely, but a red card was awful. Then taking Pope out afterwards too. I seriously think the US would have scored another goal if Mastroeni was still in, it seemed inevitable that they would finish one. That is just in response to Tornado.

But now it is going to make it much harder to win in the next game. Pablo is key to our team and was playing really well in that game. Eddie Pope can pretty easily be replaced by John O'Brien, but the center midfield is going to be a questionmark.
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That ref was a fucking joke. Can you just imagine if McBride would of stood still on that interference call....

US 2 - 1 Italy
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Old 06-18-2006, 05:17 AM   #499
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My observations from that match:

1. Landon Donovan is the man (this is from an America-hating Canadian, so shut up)

2. Italy were playing like bastards. Fucking lazy wops.

3. Worst ref ever. Even with the gayed up new FIFA rules, the guy had no clue what good officiating was.

4. That Johnson guy is retarded. Pretty much ruined a good chance for the US to look good internationally. Glad he didn't play today.

5. Did I mention how shitty the ref was?
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Yeah that ref and the linesman on the far side were shit. Pope's sending off was stupid, he got the ball anyway and probably only made about 3 challenges all game, whereas Onyewu was raping Toni everytime he got the ball.

Two good games from that group though. I don't fancy the Czech's to get through without Baros or Koller, that Lokvenc couldn't kill a ball for toffee and even he's out of the next game, so their 4th choice striker must be handicapped or something.
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Wow, some of the propaganda flying around here today is giving me goosebumps.

COME ON AUSSIES
SCORE A FUCKING GOAL
A FUCKING GOAL
A FUCKING GO-O-OAL
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Australia is tying or beating Brazil today.
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If Brazil play like they did the other day it could be very interesting indeed. If however they decide to play properly it could be a complete massacre.
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Bollocks, no way in hell Australia will win. We will be very lucky to come away with anything better than a 1-2 goal defeat. Having said this if we do pull it off Guus Hiddink should be made Prime Minister - the bloke is a genius.
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Come on draw between Japan and Croatia.

Next week will be fucking mental if we're playing off for a spot in the Round of 16, could be against fucking Ghana too.
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Bollocks, no way in hell Australia will win. We will be very lucky to come away with anything better than a 1-2 goal defeat. Having said this if we do pull it off Guus Hiddink should be made Prime Minister - the bloke is a genius.
Ofcourse you won't beat them, but i think you could pull off a draw if they're not playing on form again
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Who else would go through if Brazil got 9 points and the rest of us got 3?
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Depends on goal differential I believe?
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Dunno if they use that anymore. I remember in Euro 2004 they used head-to-head, it should be the same at this tournament unless they've changed it and it hasn't been reported.
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Bollocks, no way in hell Australia will win. We will be very lucky to come away with anything better than a 1-2 goal defeat. Having said this if we do pull it off Guus Hiddink should be made Prime Minister - the bloke is a genius.
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England fans were forced to strip off Nike gear before being let into the Trinidad & Tobago match to protect rival brand Adidas. (Express)

Thats bollocks, how can they do that?
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I don't know if that's true. It started with a true story about a bunch of Dutch fans having to watch the match in their underwear because their clothes were covered in beer advertising. I'll find the link.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/17062006/80...underwear.html
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Dunno if they use that anymore. I remember in Euro 2004 they used head-to-head, it should be the same at this tournament unless they've changed it and it hasn't been reported.
Head to head is the first tie breaker. Then it goes to the goals.
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Old 06-18-2006, 12:06 PM   #515
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I'm pretty certain its goal difference then head to head
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I'm confusing myself here.

In Euro 2004 (The 2-2 debacle, circa 2004), Sweden, Denmark and Italy were all tied on 5 points at the top of their group, having all beaten Bulgaria and drawn with the other 2 teams. Sweden and Denmark went through.

I remember there being something about a 'mini-group' being done, with just the 3 teams equal on points, with the same goal difference and head-to-head (having drawn each other, it was impossible not to), where Sweden and Denmark went through for scoring the highest amount of goals.

The point was made that Italy could have beaten Bulgaria 83-0 and not gone through because goal diff didn't matter because of the mini-table. So are they doing the same thing again for the world cup or what?

Troy is confused.
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I'm sure i've heard its goal difference this time not head to head but i might be wrong
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Dunno, they change all their tiebreakers every year anyway.

Do they still have silver goal?
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I love how nobody knows the rules for this tournament. FIFA are idiots.
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I think Australia has a chance of drawing, especially if Captain Fatty Pants (or Ronaldo or whatever) no shows again.
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