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Old 07-02-2021, 06:42 PM   #5161
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Remember when Matt Hardy left WWE because he didnt just want to do the same old Hardy stuff?

Then a year later after "Broken Matt" bombed in AEW, now he is talking about wanting to end his career teaming with Jeff in AEW?

Seems fishy to me that all of a sudden he wants Jeff to help make him relevant again
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I used to be a fan of Matt Hardy, but he became an abomination.
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Old 07-02-2021, 07:42 PM   #5163
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Hangman has been one of the most protected guys on the roster. He’s been a winning machine since losing in the world title tournament to Omega. Think he’s only lost once to Brian Cage, which says a lot given that Hangman has worked a lot of TV on dynamite.

He’s also been promoted as the number 1 contender and so far he’s still been over when the crowds.

I don’t understand how a guy who’s consistently won, won the high profile and ppv matches, is prominently and regularly featured on TV, and only has losses against two former world champs, a main event tag team, and a guy who has only been pinned twice in the span of a year, is being force elevated by getting the belt they’ve been building him up to win since day one.

It’s a bad take. Hangman doesn’t need the belt to get over. They’ve already established him as a big player and he’s already over with a ready made storyline to the belt. That is not what WWE does.
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Old 07-02-2021, 08:01 PM   #5164
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From what I watched of AEW at the start, Hangman just did not seem like "a star"..... like they were constantly trying to make him out to be more than he was and I wasn't buying it.... maybe he got better since then, I dunno....
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Old 07-02-2021, 10:37 PM   #5167
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From what I watched of AEW at the start, Hangman just did not seem like "a star"..... like they were constantly trying to make him out to be more than he was and I wasn't buying it.... maybe he got better since then, I dunno....
I felt the same, but he's come a long way since then.
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From what I watched of AEW at the start, Hangman just did not seem like "a star"..... like they were constantly trying to make him out to be more than he was and I wasn't buying it.... maybe he got better since then, I dunno....
He doesn’t work like he should, in my opinion. He’s trying to be an indy guy, when he should be working more like a brawler. I miss brawlers in wrestling.
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Old 07-03-2021, 12:03 AM   #5169
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From what I watched of AEW at the start, Hangman just did not seem like "a star"..... like they were constantly trying to make him out to be more than he was and I wasn't buying it.... maybe he got better since then, I dunno....
I felt that way at the very beginning, not really buying him as a top star, but he got super over after a few months during the time he was drinking beer with fans in the crowd... but had to stop that when COVID hit, and not having fans there hurt his momentum a lot

Feel like he's "cold" right now but hopefully they have something cool up their sleeves for his feud with Omega... and fans are coming back next week
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Old 07-03-2021, 01:23 AM   #5170
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They've got a couple months. Let's see what they can do.
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Old 07-03-2021, 04:46 AM   #5171
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I felt that way at the very beginning, not really buying him as a top star, but he got super over after a few months during the time he was drinking beer with fans in the crowd... but had to stop that when COVID hit, and not having fans there hurt his momentum a lot

Feel like he's "cold" right now but hopefully they have something cool up their sleeves for his feud with Omega... and fans are coming back next week
yeah an dark order is not helping, that is a group that should have been split up months ago.

i think with all companys the fans will change views of wrestlers, an wwe can stop getting us to feal sorry for corbin.
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Old 07-03-2021, 01:24 PM   #5172
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The Dark Order should have never existed. Then, when it failed, I should have been disbanded before Brodie Lee was even in the company.
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Old 07-03-2021, 02:21 PM   #5173
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Wrong again. NWO, DX, Four Horsemen, Los Ingornobles, the Union, and Dark Order are amongst the top stables in the history of wrestling.

Horsemen has Arn
Dark Order has Uno

DX had Chyna
Dark Order has Cabana

NWO had Scott Hall
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The Union had Test
Dark Order has Alex Reynolds
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Old 07-04-2021, 09:46 PM   #5175
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I heard on Cornette’s show that their recent TV main event had a tombstone piledriver from the second rope that didn’t end the match?

What happened to this company being a more serious product? Between things like that, Jericho crying and the hilarious botches, they are TNA 2.0
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Old 07-04-2021, 11:44 PM   #5176
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*tries to read this*

It looks like one of those annoying clickbait articles fucked a Noidpost, and its baby posted on Twitter.

Also, lol at how they don't mention one of the people in the pictures is Cody. (not helping the whole "He's not really one of us" vibe I get with these Bullet Cult guys). Not as lol is how we completely gloss over the known sex pest in the pictures, as well.
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This tweet thread is brilliant.
Cringe. Lapsed fans are not interested in that shit. This is not going to make any new wrestling fans. It’s a bad story.
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To be fair, nothing will make new fans.
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To be fair, nothing will make new fans.
Gotta disagree here. Nothing in the current climate will make new fans.
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Tony Khan was on Busted Open Radio and dodged some questions about their lack of logic, particularly when it comes to tag wrestling. Such a wormy bastard, lol.
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Gotta disagree here. Nothing in the current climate will make new fans.
Ok. Nothing will change the current climate then.
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Ok. Nothing will change the current climate then.
I don’t think it has to be that way.
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Pointing at your crotch to advertise "Micro" wrestling not a good idea...
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Right, right... The Rock gonna save everything by starting his own federation, right?
Not at this point, unfortunately. Would have been the best shot. The guy did buy the XFL, but that was likely because it was at fire sale price. We’ll see what happens if/when live events normalize.

(I know you were being a jack-ass, but I’m going to treat it as a serious question)

Wrestling’s best chance is something...else. Whether it comes from The Rock, international investors, another billionaire or a network deciding to get involved. Neither WWE nor AEW is the best we can do. Creatively or commercially.

Assuming that AEW is the best possible alternative is the big hurdle that I hope someone else can overcome when pitching to network executives. If the assumption is that AEW is doing the best wrestling possibly can...we’re all in trouble.
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I could see a streaming service try to eventually "go in" on wrestling. Whether Netflix or Amazon Prime or whoever... just one more thing to try to "set them apart" from their increasing amount of competitors in the streaming world.

Would be more of a Lucha Underground type thing with "seasons" rather than an ongoing every week/every month thing.
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I’m doing my best to become a millionaire and save wrestling, guys. Bare with me.
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Old 07-05-2021, 09:29 PM   #5191
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Kinda surprised a streaming service hasn't taken a shot at "hosting" a rasslin show already. People would watch it. People will watch anything.
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Old 07-05-2021, 09:39 PM   #5192
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psst WWE on Peacock already exists

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I could see a streaming service try to eventually "go in" on wrestling. Whether Netflix or Amazon Prime or whoever... just one more thing to try to "set them apart" from their increasing amount of competitors in the streaming world.

Would be more of a Lucha Underground type thing with "seasons" rather than an ongoing every week/every month thing.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the WWE were working on something with Netflix in conjunction with this Vince series.
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Old 07-06-2021, 11:11 AM   #5194
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There's a Vince series now?

I heard some biopic was on the way, didn't know it was a Netflix thing... or that it was a series and not just a film?
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yeah i was thinking amazon was going to buy impact when impact went to twitch
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I don't see Amazon or Netflix getting involved with a weekly rassling show, cause frankly ain't nobody got time/interest for that anymore. If they do get involved with something it will be something released in seasons.
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There's a Vince series now?

I heard some biopic was on the way, didn't know it was a Netflix thing... or that it was a series and not just a film?
I’m sure I heard Netflix was doing a biographical series.

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I don't see Amazon or Netflix getting involved with a weekly rassling show, cause frankly ain't nobody got time/interest for that anymore. If they do get involved with something it will be something released in seasons.
Who doesn’t have time for it? Raw and SmackDown are still watched by millions of people worldwide, whether we like it or not. I can see the argument for specials, but I don’t get the appeal of a seasonal release versus one that is year-round.

It doesn’t seem to fit the current aesthetic of those platforms, but as they get more and more “(x) Platform Live” options going, wrestling is a pretty logical part of that expansion.
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The appeal is to try to get new fans/lapsed fans who don't want to commit to watching something every week but would happily binge watch a season of whatever if it got good reviews.

The weekly format will only ever draw the current niche market, which continues to shrink.
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Why is Tony Khan bragging about how he got a refund for the exploding deathmatch botch??

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/20...at-revolution/

Besides, didnt they already tell us it was Kenny's fault

Seriously, Khan seems like such a Self Mark Doofus that he will just spill the behind the scenes details to anybody in order to appear cool.

“I was trying to be too safe and I let the professionals handle the stuff and they are guys who don’t understand wrestling,” Khan said. “It was professional pyrotechnic guys. They totally s--t the bed, these guys. I ended up not paying them. It was like $100,000 they ended up refunding for all the expenses of the match. So I didn’t end up paying for the (exploding) barbed wire deathmatch, which I shouldn’t have. They screwed up royally. We put together something great. Kenny and Jon worked their asses off and all they had to do was set up the final explosion. This is because we used professional pyrotechnic people who are supposed to know.”
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It was hard to listen to khan's appearance on busted open. Like, I was legitimately embarrassed for him.

He completely dodged Bubba calling him out on the false promises of wins and losses counting and the sports style presentation. Those being my biggest disappointments with aew.
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