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Old 07-28-2021, 05:47 PM   #5441
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She’s 100% correct
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Old 07-28-2021, 05:59 PM   #5442
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How to get over with AEW fans.

Step 1: WWE IS BAD!

That's it, legit all it takes.

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Old 07-28-2021, 06:10 PM   #5443
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Hell, I’m not even an AEW fan and that’s an easy way to get over with me.
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Old 07-29-2021, 02:00 AM   #5444
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LOL of course she did.

Was nothing wrong with WWE while she worked there for 8 years, but now bad baaaaaaad WWE.

It's not upsetting, it is the cliche blueprint.
People typically don't talk shit about the company they work for while they're still working there. Good way to not only get fired, but also get a reputation of being difficult to work with.

I'm sure there will be some people that will have unpleasant things to say about AEW once they're gone. JR comes to mind immediately.
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Old 07-29-2021, 08:42 AM   #5445
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People typically don't talk shit about the company they work for while they're still working there. Good way to not only get fired, but also get a reputation of being difficult to work with.

I'm sure there will be some people that will have unpleasant things to say about AEW once they're gone. JR comes to mind immediately.



100% this. Very simple to understand.
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Old 07-29-2021, 10:35 AM   #5447
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Dynamite is exponentially more entertaining than Raw. One seems to have linear progression while the other is just filling in tv time.
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People typically don't talk shit about the company they work for while they're still working there. Good way to not only get fired, but also get a reputation of being difficult to work with.

I'm sure there will be some people that will have unpleasant things to say about AEW once they're gone. JR comes to mind immediately.
2 things.

If she had such a problem with WWE why would she work there for so long.

The narrative seems to change as time passes and she doesnt land her next job. Went from her saying how much she loved working there and thanking everyone, then went back for a one off appearance, to lets start talking more and more about how WWE bad, AEW good.

It is the standard progression to get over with AEW. Its not that she is even wrong, its that the take is cliche.
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Old 07-29-2021, 10:41 AM   #5449
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2 things.

If she had such a problem with WWE why would she work there for so long.

The narrative seems to change as time passes and she doesnt land her next job. Went from her saying how much she loved working there and thanking everyone, then went back for a one off appearance, to lets start talking more and more about how WWE bad, AEW good.

It is the standard progression to get over with AEW. Its not that she is even wrong, its that the take is cliche.

Why did she stay so long?


Was there any other game in town at the time? If so, I'm sure they weren't paying her #WWEMoney. Seems like a smart life choice to "toe the line" and continue to get paid rather than air grievances and get fired, which the "E" has a history of doing.


I only speak from personal experiences in my life though. Stomaching a shit job while looking for another so I don't miss pay. I had to work with one of the worst people I've ever met in my life, and he was a C-level, so any "reporting" would have ended up with ME losing my job.
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Old 07-29-2021, 11:02 AM   #5450
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0 issue with that Drave.

In this situation though, a former WWE employee disparaging WWE while also praising AEW, is so standard and unoriginal that it is practically a prerequisite to get the admiration of the fanbase.
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0 issue with that Drave.

In this situation though, a former WWE employee disparaging WWE while also praising AEW, is so standard and unoriginal that it is practically a prerequisite to get the admiration of the fanbase.
She's simply stating a fact even if it is unoriginal, dull and in line with the overwhelming consensus.
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Old 07-29-2021, 12:31 PM   #5452
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Or maybe you hyperfocus on that point because reasons?


Remove the "branding" and replace it with generic words.


"I wasn't happy at my former workplace now that I've been to a new place and see how things can be. I like this workplace better than my old one." It's a rather normal thing that people outside of the wrestling world experience daily.



¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Whatever floats your boat
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Old 07-29-2021, 12:58 PM   #5453
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Xrod just needs to constantly complain about anything aew because he’s a sad and bored little man, and doing the anti aew shtick and plugging into seemingly every thread he’s in gives him life, apparently. Hence why the mute button is a wonderful thing.
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0 issue with that Drave.

In this situation though, a former WWE employee disparaging WWE while also praising AEW, is so standard and unoriginal that it is practically a prerequisite to get the admiration of the fanbase.
And it's going to keep happening, because regardless of how you feel about AEW's content, it is by all accounts a much more laid back, enjoyable place to work.

Instead of mocking people for liking AEW's work environment, you should take aim at wwe for creating one that is seemingly miserable to be a part of.
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Again, no problem with the message itself, but like Drave just said, it will keep happening.

I initially wrote "of course she said that", because its what they all say. At this point how is it even news? Its not breaking some secret inside information.

There is no legitimate reason to go out of their way to say that other than to personally gain favor with AEW.

That has nothing to do with Anti AEW no matter what people defending AEW say.
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LOL of course she did.

Was nothing wrong with WWE while she worked there for 8 years, but now bad baaaaaaad WWE.

It's not upsetting, it is the cliche blueprint.
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Again, no problem with the message itself, but like Drave just said, it will keep happening.

I initially wrote "of course she said that", because its what they all say. At this point how is it even news? Its not breaking some secret inside information.

There is no legitimate reason to go out of their way to say that other than to personally gain favor with AEW.

That has nothing to do with Anti AEW no matter what people defending AEW say.



So is it the fact that she stated her opinion or that it was considered "news" by some random twitter "reporter"?
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Xrod just needs to constantly complain about anything aew because he’s a sad and bored little man, and doing the anti aew shtick and plugging into seemingly every thread he’s in gives him life, apparently. Hence why the mute button is a wonderful thing.
Somebody quote me for this idiot.

I literally said nothing bad about AEW, just that a former WWE employee talking bad about WWE while praising AEW is S.O.P.

Pointing out DAILY that you have somebody muted makes you feel good somehow, which I can only guess because why else would you come here just to make posts about it? That is the markings of a sad and bored little man.
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I mean he's not wrong. Literally everyone on their roster has been mismanaged to some degree. Even Cody was stuck in that dreadful feud with the factory for a while.
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I mean he's not wrong. Literally everyone on their roster has been mismanaged to some degree. Even Cody was stuck in that dreadful feud with the factory for a while.
WWE hasn't exactly managed their talent real great either. I don't think that's what he's talking about really.

I don't think Vince even viewed WCW as competition, he viewed Ted Turner as competition. He has no reason to view Shahid Khan as competition. I do agree with Bix if I was an employee it'd probably rub me the wrong way to indifferently joke about firing people but I also think that's just Vince. He would have said something like that 40 years ago too. It's weird but that's Vinny Mac.
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Old 07-29-2021, 07:57 PM   #5466
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Would have to hear his tone when he said it, but sounds like he is trying to "burn" AEW saying maybe they can give them more talent because their talent is lacking or w/e
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You can barely hear him bc Vince never turns his mic up


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So is it the fact that she stated her opinion or that it was considered "news" by some random twitter "reporter"?
Just that its not at all surprising. She is trying to gain favor by doing exactly what they all do, WWE BAD AEW GOOD.

Nothing more.
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Just that its not at all surprising. She is trying to gain favor by doing exactly what they all do, WWE BAD AEW GOOD.

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That’s incredibly lazy man. Do better.
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this guy's article is weird and horribly written tbh

also the Domino's statement is obviously in response to him "snitching" and complaining about the spot, "expressing his concern" to them... rather than Domino's putting out a statement on their own

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You can barely hear him bc Vince never turns his mic up


In that it kinda sounds like "Perhaps we could give them some more" is a separate sentence, maybe talking to Nick Khan, telling him to give the investors some more info...?
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That does seem less aggressive than the transcription.
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Just that its not at all surprising. She is trying to gain favor by doing exactly what they all do, WWE BAD AEW GOOD.

Nothing more.
So if you have a better experience at your new job than you did at your old one, you're not allowed to talk about it, or else you're trying to "gain favor".

Got it.
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So if you have a better experience at your new job than you did at your old one, you're not allowed to talk about it, or else you're trying to "gain favor".

Got it.
I dont care that she talked about it. My whole point was it is not surprising she said it, that it is so commonplace that it is a cliche.

And no that argument does not apply in most cases. If I work at Deloitte and leave, I am not going to try and get a job at Ernst & Young by constantly bashing Deloitte. The logical deduction would be that Ernst & Young would not hire me for being unprofessional.

Does it work for potential AEW employment? The obvious answer is yes, which is why they all do it. They do it to stroke the ego of their potential new boss, and they do it to placate to the fanbase.

Its neither good or bad, its just the normal process.
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Also, I would like to point out that only Fan got the joke part, and he came back with a great joke as well. There really wasnt anything to it beyond that.
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I dont care that she talked about it. My whole point was it is not surprising she said it, that it is so commonplace that it is a cliche.

And no that argument does not apply in most cases. If I work at Deloitte and leave, I am not going to try and get a job at Ernst & Young by constantly bashing Deloitte. The logical deduction would be that Ernst & Young would not hire me for being unprofessional.

Does it work for potential AEW employment? The obvious answer is yes, which is why they all do it. They do it to stroke the ego of their potential new boss, and they do it to placate to the fanbase.

Its neither good or bad, its just the normal process.
"FED BAD" (TM SCJerk) was a thing back in TNA, as well.

I am disappointed that I lost my last job, and I hate my current job. But I'm not gonna tell my future employer that my current job sucks. They'll think I'm a toxic person.
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It's all just an assumption. They say it because it's true, and because there's an audience for it. I personally doubt that audience is Tony khan, because he's the biggest mark in the industry. It's not necessary to gain favor through these type of comments because they already do it by simply existing.

Also, here's the whole quote, rather than a shitty one sentence summary.

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“They (AEW) don’t treat their fans stupid, in terms of not knowing what this is and we’re going to beat you over the head to make sure you understand it.I understand the reasoning of why they do that obviously, but I think with smart fans, and the way that people have access to looking into information that they might not know and being able to connect the dots themselves, I think that there’s something really cool about that that people like to have that sense of discovery, rather than being talked to like they don’t understand.”
That's something we as fans have harped on wwe about, but I can't recall an actual talent talking about that specific issue. Considering that her job as an interviewer and analyst is directly tied to the presentation of the product, it's not surprising she'd speak out about the difference in how both companies handle this sort of thing.
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this guy's article is weird and horribly written tbh

also the Domino's statement is obviously in response to him "snitching" and complaining about the spot, "expressing his concern" to them... rather than Domino's putting out a statement on their own
It was hilarious to me for the reason why it has come to pass. "Oh, Domino's is NOT going to want to be associated with that." And is it the "snitcher" or the fact that people are posting it, loling at that meth head looking guy holding up a pizza cutter juxtaposed over the ad for pizza. Someone likely even tagged Domino's to the post. Someone had to see it, and naturally they were going to get asked about it. It'd be like if Priscilla Kelly did the tampon spot in the middle of a show, right before an ad for Tampax.

I'm just waiting to see if they go All In (heh) with it, and have Gage come out next week in a Red Bunny suit.
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The idea that Renee, who seems to be universally beloved, needs to gain favor, is hilarious.
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