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Old 08-24-2004, 12:43 AM   #521
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To be honest Raw pissed me off. There were only two matches the whole show..Sure there was a few things to get acrossed but what made it worst was during the two matches there were commercials. How the hell are you gonna have the only two matches of the night both have commercials in them. That pissed me off alot.
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Old 08-24-2004, 12:45 AM   #522
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Like I said I can't wait for the numbers to come in for each segment. I will post them here as soon as I get the Observer. I will be LMAO if the Wedding did good numbers.
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Old 08-24-2004, 12:48 AM   #523
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LOl watching the replay of Raw, Rock's promo is quite good. Carmella is freaking annoying though. Can't believe they are gonna hire someone who doesn't even care abput the job.
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Old 08-24-2004, 12:50 AM   #524
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Old 08-24-2004, 12:52 AM   #525
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Pretty bad show tonight, but that was expected with the wedidng crap.

Rock showing up was great, as usual he was money. He made the Divas segment watchable, which I thought was impossible and he sold for La Resistance, God Bless The Rock!

The big story was the Orton angle. I liked the idea with HHH asking him to hand over the title. I loved the luggie, that was some massive stuff right there. However like LC said, they needed an RKO, and I didn't like that Orton ran off. I dont care if they do play it off as being "smart", no babyface I can every remember got over because people sat there and went "what a brilliant tactical manuever, well played ol chap". He should have kicked all their (Evo) asses in one shot. He could've KO'd HHH with the RKO and then have Flair and Batista bump out of the ring for him, and then they could pull Hunter out of the ring while Orton challenges them to come and get some. Thats how you build up a top level babyface. But what do I know, I mean its not like Ive been watching wrestling very long.

Edge-Jericho was pretty bad, what a useless match/finish. Hopefully if they go at the PPV it is better.

Flair-Regal was too long, and how sad is life for Chris Benoit? Remember when he was the "top guy", or a leat pretended to be?

Oh, memo to WWE, two more RAW's till the next PPV....BOOK SOME MATCHES!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-24-2004, 12:52 AM   #526
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Only when I don't like something. I just complimented the Rock, though why they used him for Diva segement I'll never know.
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Old 08-24-2004, 12:53 AM   #527
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LOL they are barely eating the pies
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Old 08-24-2004, 12:54 AM   #528
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LOL don't boo her yet . Wow Carmella rubs herself with pie with the enthusiam of someone getting an enema.
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Old 08-24-2004, 12:54 AM   #529
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Like I said I can't wait for the numbers to come in for each segment. I will post them here as soon as I get the Observer. I will be LMAO if the Wedding did good numbers.
Weddings usually draw good TV numbers. The theory is that more chicks watch (any chicks here? Did your friends all call you up to watch? No? What a shock!) and thats why the numbers are larger. I'm not sure if this one will follow suit just because the product is so cold right now. But if it works, plans are already in the works for a Torrie Wilson-Hiedenreich wedding.
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Old 08-24-2004, 12:56 AM   #530
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:00 AM   #531
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Nice little touch by the Rock on the People's elbow. Loved the look at the elbow realise there's no pad so take off your shirt instead thing. Sometimes the small things make a spot that much better.
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:05 AM   #532
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The big story was the Orton angle. I liked the idea with HHH asking him to hand over the title. I loved the luggie, that was some massive stuff right there. However like LC said, they needed an RKO, and I didn't like that Orton ran off. I dont care if they do play it off as being "smart", no babyface I can every remember got over because people sat there and went "what a brilliant tactical manuever, well played ol chap". He should have kicked all their (Evo) asses in one shot. He could've KO'd HHH with the RKO and then have Flair and Batista bump out of the ring for him, and then they could pull Hunter out of the ring while Orton challenges them to come and get some. Thats how you build up a top level babyface. But what do I know, I mean its not like Ive been watching wrestling very long.
Yep, that was the scene I was hoping for all week. RKO to HHH, Chair Shots to Batista/Flair "Austin_Style." But Nope. You think they learned something from Austin though.
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:05 AM   #533
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Lara why do you even watch, it's painfully obvious that you don't enjoy the show at all. Are you a glutton for punishment or something
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:07 AM   #534
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Always the slight hope something good will happen.
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:09 AM   #535
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Nice Promo Video for the Orton/HHH thing, guess the intro one was just a teaser. No matter how bad the product is the promo videos never fail to kick ass.
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Yep, that was the scene I was hoping for all week. RKO to HHH, Chair Shots to Batista/Flair "Austin_Style." But Nope. You think they learned something from Austin though.
Its wierd and scary at the same time.

Wierd in that this is Hunter's program for the next 7 months, you'd think he'd want to heat up Orton the right way.

And scary because its obvious the people who are writing the television just have no idea how to make a babyface. Maybe someone will watch a Best of Stone Cold, Rock or Hogan and a lightbulb will go off. Maybe when HHH finally turns face.
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:10 AM   #537
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But thank god, HHH didn't hit the pedigree on Orton. After Orton spit on him I seriously thought Orton was going to get destroyed...AGAIN.
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Its wierd and scary at the same time.

Wierd in that this is Hunter's program for the next 7 months, you'd think he'd want to heat up Orton the right way.

And scary because its obvious the people who are writing the television just have no idea how to make a babyface. Maybe someone will watch a Best of Stone Cold, Rock or Hogan and a lightbulb will go off. Maybe when HHH finally turns face.
Heh Probably.
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:11 AM   #539
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But thank god, HHH didn't hit the pedigree on Orton. After Orton spit on him I seriously thought Orton was going to get destroyed...AGAIN.
Indeed. I agree with Nick though he should not have been booked to run away.
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You could apply that to about 90% of the ppl here.
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:12 AM   #541
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Its wierd and scary at the same time.

Wierd in that this is Hunter's program for the next 7 months, you'd think he'd want to heat up Orton the right way.

And scary because its obvious the people who are writing the television just have no idea how to make a babyface. Maybe someone will watch a Best of Stone Cold, Rock or Hogan and a lightbulb will go off. Maybe when HHH finally turns face.
Funny how thy Hotshot the whole angle, but wait on the RKO to HHH.
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LOL does anyone realise that this is like two Raws in a row that they don't show Jericho's entrance on TV?
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Or did I just happen to miss it?
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right after I think
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Wow I must have really not paid attention then. All I remember is Edge coming out could have sworn that that was right after the commercial.
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yeah I'm watching it again on tivo, he came out after commercial
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Old 08-24-2004, 01:21 AM   #550
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Funny how thy Hotshot the whole angle, but wait on the RKO to HHH.
Its like if you watch back some of the old tapes of Austin fighting the Hart Foundation or the Corporation he would almost always battle the odds and just beat the crap out of everyone. Sure some people will resent that style of booking because its not logical, but people dont want to cheer an average guy, they want to cheer someone who is "superhuman". I mean imagine how popular Spiderman would be if he was constantly booked to run away. I can picture the kids at school "You see when Spiderman saw the odds were against him and he took off through the alleyway? Man Spiderman is the coolest, I ant wait to get into a fight so I can run away!!!".

I thought forsure HHH was eating a Pedigree and I was actually epsecting all three guys to get hit with it just to further establish the move.

Even worse is that its likely that Orton will be dropping the title at Unforgiven. They should be bending over backwards to make him this badass babyface killing Evo left and right, then Hunter gets the title by some cheap tactics and then says Orton will never get a shot. People should be hot to see Orton climb the ladder and get another title shot (ie at the Rumble).

But I'm sure they have an equally effective plan.....or do they?
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Great end, terrible beginning.

Diva shit was 30 minutes uninterrupted, and the 20 minute IC Title match had TWO C-breaks. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out something's wrong. We can see where WWE's priorities lie. It seems to me, anyway, that they're depending on their untrained, (pardon the pun) raw diva wannabes to draw TV audiences as opposed to their contracted talent, which is wrong for more than one reason.

Rock came back and did his thing. Just like the last time he was on, he was hit and miss. Funny at times, tried too hard at others. Still worth having on a show, however. The Tag Title picture, at least, got pushed in the diva segment.

I'm liking where the IC Title picture is going. Although I didn't like the match simply because of its overbooking of swerves. Unless they plan on expaning on this lack of referee ineptitude, tonight's match was near-pointless.

Evolution / Orton segment: Great. Sure, it seems weird to have Orton use Evolution's theme, but I like him with it. I'm conflicted. Trips promo was well written and Orton's actions and expressions were enough to sell the feud and the conflict. No words were needed. The segment was very well executed. As was the skit after that. Nice to see Vickytoria on TV, even for a few seconds. And Trips is a super HEEL.

Flair can't wrestle anymore. They should stop putting him in matches. He gets heat, sure, but he can't go more than 5 minutes in the ring. Nice finish though.

And the whole wedding scene: Perfection. Could not have been better. From Kane's theme orchastrated, to the midgets, the black dress, the vows, the bible passage, Trish's interruption, and, of course, THE WALL OF FIRE, this whole segment blew away the 90 minutes of show they had before it. And lastly, that was a sick spot by Matt Hardy (the chokeslam off the stage through the tables, not the Twist of Fate on the floor).

If there were no divas, this would get a 10 out of 10. But sadly, "my ass is hungry" is inexcusable, as is that whole "challenge Carmella to a match whilst eating pie" thing. WTF are these bitches thinking. THE ROCK SAYS EAT PIE, YOU EAT PIE. SHUT YOUR HOLE AND EAT IT. DON'T JUST STARE AT IT, EAT IT. So I give it a 9.

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Did it seem like the concept of death got mentioned a lot tonight? I must've counted it at least 3 times.

Think the WWE will catch shit about Rock's weed reference? He did say it relatively early in the show, like around 9:15.

Lots of people I know have made this mistake, so I might as well clarify here: Jericho was born in Manhassett, NY. Not Manhattan. Manhassett is a town on Long Island, about 20 minutes or so east of NYC. Ironically, there's a road on Long Island named Jericho Turnpike. About 50 miles long or so.
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Yeah I thought Rock's little sperm bank shout out was a little worse than the weed reference, but I did think it was odd he said that stuff. Probably just did it on his own, but who is really going to say anything?
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Orton should ask for the rights to the name Evolution be put on the line for his match at Unforgiven.
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I was surprised when he said that bit about the divas getting wet.
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I was surprised when he said that bit about the divas getting wet.
Why it's not the first time he's said it.
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i remember when he said it to lillian.. lmao
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You know HHH could have asked nicely for the belt. Gimme gimme never gets afterall. A please could have made a world of difference.
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And the whole wedding scene: Perfection. Could not have been better. From Kane's theme orchastrated, to the midgets, the black dress, the vows, the bible passage, Trish's interruption, and, of course, THE WALL OF FIRE, this whole segment blew away the 90 minutes of show they had before it. And lastly, that was a sick spot by Matt Hardy (the chokeslam off the stage through the tables, not the Twist of Fate on the floor).
You're right it was perfect, however you are wrong about one thing. There is one small thing they could've done to make it just a little bit better. They could've aired that shit on Sunday Night Heat and not wasted a friggin half hour of Raw on it. I would've rather watched a political discussion with Eugene than that wedding.
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You're right it was perfect, however you are wrong about one thing. There is one small thing they could've done to make it just a little bit better. They could've aired that shit on Sunday Night Heat and not wasted a friggin half hour of Raw on it. I would've rather watched a political discussion with Eugene than that wedding.
Are you sure you're not talking about the Diva search?

Because those are the 30 minutes I could've done without.

The wedding was brilliant.
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