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Old 12-07-2006, 05:29 PM   #561
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Meche will get 11 million a season. Wow. That's crazy.
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Old 12-07-2006, 06:10 PM   #562
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Thats not crazy thats fucking insane
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:09 PM   #563
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Gave Garcia up for fucking nobody. Good move KW!
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:32 PM   #564
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That Freddy Garcia move is something the Jays might need to make.
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Old 12-07-2006, 11:42 PM   #565
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Old 12-08-2006, 01:55 AM   #566
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At least you didn't pull the Garland trade with Houston, that wouldn't have been good.
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:44 AM   #567
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the worst fucking part of it all is thanks to this fucked up market this off season... we are not going to offer extentions to any of or pitchers... so we are going to settle for a 3rd place team again.
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LOL Gil Meche to the Royals, definately did not see that one coming
Is he any good?
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:01 AM   #569
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Gil Meche is so good, Seattle sent him down to the minors last year or the year before (I forget which one) to get his shit sorted out.
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Old 12-08-2006, 10:18 AM   #570
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:59 AM   #571
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lol baseball is so retarded. 5 years 55 mil for Gil Meche? What the hell is Zito going to get now?
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Old 12-08-2006, 12:19 PM   #572
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Old 12-08-2006, 01:57 PM   #573
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Some sad news today.

Ex-giants SS Jose Uribe was killed in a car crash.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2691022
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Old 12-08-2006, 02:30 PM   #574
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Schmidt signs with the Dodgers. Holy crap, they are going to win the west.
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Old 12-08-2006, 02:42 PM   #575
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lol the Royals are clearly trying to dropped by major league baseball all together.
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Old 12-08-2006, 03:22 PM   #576
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I like Steinbrenner's thinking. He clearly flipped his lid with this.

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Old 12-08-2006, 03:59 PM   #578
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Why are the White Sox trying to sell off all their starters? I understand trading one to get McCarthy into the rotation but I keep seeing they still might try to deal Garland.
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Old 12-08-2006, 04:21 PM   #579
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Pettitte coming back. Pretty excited about this, not sure how much of a difference-maker he will be but it doesn't even matter, just to have him back will be crazy.

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Old 12-08-2006, 05:58 PM   #580
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I hope he has as good of a start as he did last year with Huston. He's going to get reamed back in the AL
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Old 12-08-2006, 06:10 PM   #581
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I'm just watching SportsCenter. They're saying that since Pettitte left to New York, Clemens may follow.
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Old 12-08-2006, 06:37 PM   #582
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Food for thought on Andy Pettitte:

"In comparing the big three pitchers on the market (sorry, Matsuzaka fans), Pettitte's numbers over the last two years are superior to both Barry Zito and Jason Schmidt (who signed yesterday with the Dodgers, removing himself from the fray, but helping establish a market rate with his three-year, $47-million deal). Pettitte is 31-22, 3.28 over that stretch, with 349 Ks and 111 walks in 436 2/3 innings. Zito has 30 wins and has lost one more than Pettitte, with an ERA a half a run higher. He has more wear and tear (449 1/3 innings) and his command is nowhere near as dominant as Pettitte's (322 Ks/188 BB). Schmidt (Pettitte's junior by only seven months) is just 23-16, 3.95, and injuries have held him to 385 1/3 innings. He has 345 strikeouts, but has walked 165."
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Old 12-08-2006, 07:29 PM   #583
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More news:

ESPN's Buster Olney is reporting that Andy Pettitte will return to the Yankees on a one-year, $16 million contract with a $16 million player option for 2008.

Royals signed RHP Octavio Dotel, who had been with the Yankees, to a one-year, $5 million contract.

Cardinals signed RHP Russ Springer, who had been with the Astros, to a one-year, $1.75 million contract.


Free agent Mark Mulder plans to visit Texas and meet with Rangers owner Tom Hicks on Tuesday.

The Braves are reportedly more willing to part with Kyle Davies and prospects for Rocco Baldelli than they would be Chuck James.


According to the Boston Globe's Gordon Edes, free agent Eric Gagne has an offer that will guarantee him $6 million with a chance to earn an additional $5 million in incentives.

Boston didn't make the offer, which apparently means it's either from the Rangers or the Indians. Edes doesn't believe Gagne will be joining the Red Sox.

Mike MacDougal's new three-year deal with the White Sox is worth $6.45 million.

The Houston Chronicle's Richard Justice believes that, with Andy Pettitte gone from Houston, the Red Sox may now be the favorites to land Roger Clemens, should the 44-year-old return for another season.

The Blue Jays will consider trading Vernon Wells if they can't lock him up to a contract extension sometime around Jan. 1.

According to SI.com's Jon Heyman, the Yankees are willing to give Shea Hillenbrand a one-year, $5 million contract. He's still holding out for a multiyear deal, though.
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Old 12-08-2006, 11:36 PM   #584
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Not saying it can't happen, but there is no reason why Clemens would go back to the Red Sox. He retired a Yankee, and is clearly pretty loyal to that organization. He only came back into the league because his hometown club gave him a special contract and his good friend Andy Pettite was there. So now that Pettite is on the Yankees, why would Clemens sign with the direct rivals of the Yankees and now Pettite?

Also, if he was going to sign with a team to just try to win another World Series, the Yankees look 10 times better on paper right now. Yeah, he started his career and was probably at his best when on the Red Sox, but that was a long time ago. I am sure his closest ties are with the Astros and the Yankees, and I don't see why it would make sense for him to go to Boston at this point.
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Clemens to the Royals!
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Old 12-09-2006, 01:06 AM   #586
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Clemens actually had his best statistical yaers with the Blue Jays.
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Clemens is loyal to the bling bling, not any one organization.

Also, it sounds like the Jays are close to re-signing Wells. So says the radio reports late last night. God, I hope so.
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What is it with Wells and Clemens and the AL East big three?
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what do you guys think Zito's going to get?

I'm thinking he might be making 22 million a year.
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Jason Marquis signed with the Cubs. So did Wade Miller. I think Wade Miller is the sleeper, wow. This guy was starting to put together a nice career before he got injured. I think the Cubs signed(or traded for him) last year, they re-signed him on the cheap.
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Today is another great day for Yankee fans:

Negotiations between the Boston Red Sox and Japanese pitcher Daisuke Matsuzaka have essentially broken down, the Boston Herald reported, adding that unless there is an abrupt change of course, Matsuzaka will not be signing with the Red Sox before Thursday’s midnight deadline.Boston bid $51.1 million for the right to negotiate with Matsuzaka, who was the MVP of last spring's World Baseball Classic.The Herald named a source close to the talks between the Red Sox and Matzsuzaka's agent, Scott Boras. The source blames Boras for stubbornly being unable to get over the flaws in the Japanese posting system, saying that he has been that "he has acted disinterested in even making a deal."
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Also:
Considering potentially making a trade, the Cardinals have asked to examine Carl Pavano's medical records.

The Rockies are another team that's expressed some interest in Pavano, who is owed $23 million over the next two seasons. With Andy Pettitte back and Kei Igawa still likely to sign, the Yankees are likely to be more open to dumping as much as Pavano's contract as they can, though they may prefer not to do it before spring training.

And a smart move by the Rangers:
Rangers re-signed RHP Vicente Padilla to a three-year, $33.75 million contract with an option for 2010.
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Its a shame it never worked out with Pavano. But in Pettitte we know what we're getting, and we know he's likely to perform come playoff time too.
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Whats the story on Igawa?
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All signs point to signing Igawa. I think we'll pull the trigger on a Pavano deal as soon as he's signed.
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I really gotta hand it to Cashman, he's been making genius moves since he fucked up royally with Wright and Pavano.
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Pettite had a 4.20 ERA last year, which is probably what you are getting, not the Pettite of the past.
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Agreed, I'm glad nothing ever happened with Soriano or any other big hitters
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Pettite had a 4.20 ERA last year, which is probably what you are getting, not the Pettite of the past.
I know, but he's likely to be a wee bit more consistent than Jaret Wright, Carl Pavano or Sidney Ponson
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