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Old 03-01-2004, 05:13 PM   #601
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Robben to Chelsea 13 million 5 year deal. FFS Chelsea stop buying everyone its annoying espcially stop buying midfielders
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Well, if Champ Man has taught me anything, it is that Argen Robben is fucking amazing.

And I hope we offload about 5 midfielders in the summer.

*crosses fingers*
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Does Robben play wide? I can't remember.

If he does I imagine pretty soon it'll be hello subs bench for Gronkjaer
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Well, if Champ Man has taught me anything, it is that Argen Robben is fucking amazing.

And I hope we offload about 5 midfielders in the summer.

*crosses fingers*
We'll have Cole and Gronkjaer please
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I want Cole to stay.

I meant Veron, Geremi, Petit, Gronjkaer, and I dunno who else, lets call it four.
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Nobody cares what you think Dazz :foc:

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Old 03-01-2004, 06:45 PM   #608
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Your just saying nobody cares because I think that Wolves are going to finish bottom of the league.
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Old 03-01-2004, 07:23 PM   #612
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Robben?

what the fuck, he was supposed to come to us, he even said he'd rather play in our reserves than go to chelsea.
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what the fuck, he was supposed to come to us, he even said he'd rather play in our reserves than go to chelsea.
Yeah I read his dad saying that - who is like his agent or something.

Robben is apparently amazing though I'm just going off the press and not actually seeing him in action.
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Old 03-02-2004, 04:36 AM   #614
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what the fuck, he was supposed to come to us, he even said he'd rather play in our reserves than go to chelsea.
Just shows what a bit of money can do
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Might have something to do with PSV getting pissed at United/Ferguson for inviting him to Old Trafford without them even knowing about it.
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I read that Chelsea are doing a deal to make PSV their feeder club, could be a part of the deal, maybe Abramovich is gonna finance PSV as well?
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I read that Chelsea are doing a deal to make PSV their feeder club, could be a part of the deal, maybe Abramovich is gonna finance PSV as well?
Yeah he funded the transfer of Santos.

And I doubt Robben said that, papers misquote things all the time. I think that someone like you, The Mask, would know this, what with you being a United fan and all.
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Yeah he funded the transfer of Santos.

And I doubt Robben said that, papers misquote things all the time. I think that someone like you, The Mask, would know this, what with you being a United fan and all.
Didn't he also fund the transfer of the brazillian ALEX to them???
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Old 03-02-2004, 08:33 AM   #619
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Yeah he funded the transfer of Santos.

And I doubt Robben said that, papers misquote things all the time. I think that someone like you, The Mask, would know this, what with you being a United fan and all.
it was on the BBC site, a quote from his dad I believe, hold on.
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Robben is amazing, I've downloaded some videos of him. I'm gutted at losing him. first ronaldinho and now him
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ea/3421931.stm

Seriously, Fergie's gonna have to pull some special players out of his arse this summer or it looks like Harry Kewell might have been right
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Man U's handling of transfers has been quite "forceful" shall we say in the past. Now with the deals for Kewell, Ronaldiniho and Robben going against them maybe teams aren't standing for it anymore.

Or something :meh:
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Yeah he funded the transfer of Santos.

And I doubt Robben said that, papers misquote things all the time. I think that someone like you, The Mask, would know this, what with you being a United fan and all.
*transfer of Alex from the Brazillian club Santos to PSV.
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After reading the article, all I have to say is:

It was what Robben's dad said, and not him.
He said that Robben would rather play in PSV's reserves, not United's.
Some of that could be misquoted.
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I read that Chelsea are doing a deal to make PSV their feeder club, could be a part of the deal, maybe Abramovich is gonna finance PSV as well?
If that is true it's a hell of a deal. There aren't too many clubs I can think of outside Ajax, Auxerre, Juventus and Real who have a better track record with developing young players.
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Robben claims that he snubbed Manchester United for Chelsea.

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The PSV president has said Man U offered a certain amount months ago, then went back and offered half Chelsea offered more, and also had Peter Kenyon to do the dealing (who he's friends with) so it went through.

Sorry but if I was a United fan (and especially a United shareholder) I'd be asking why the hell Man United, the richest club in the world (well, actually I guess that's debateable with Abramovich now, but still) would do something like that? Unless they were trying to bully PSV into taking less money or something...

He also said there's no agreement in place for them to become a feeder club for Chelsea, but the Robben deal does carry an agreement that Alex will move to Chelsea in 2 years time.

Not a bad bit of business at all really
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Ken Bates has resigned. which pisses me off because he is the man. Kenyon is a United fan and Abramovich and his money can go fuck itself, he gets three clowns to go on the Chelsea board, none of who know a thing about football.
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The PSV president has said Man U offered a certain amount months ago, then went back and offered half Chelsea offered more, and also had Peter Kenyon to do the dealing (who he's friends with) so it went through.

Sorry but if I was a United fan (and especially a United shareholder) I'd be asking why the hell Man United, the richest club in the world (well, actually I guess that's debateable with Abramovich now, but still) would do something like that? Unless they were trying to bully PSV into taking less money or something...
It's what United always do, they try and unsettle players so that the club have to sell the player to them, and they thought that by bidding high, and being able to speak to Robben, that they would then be able to bid low, once Robben has his heart set on them, hoping that Robben would get annoyed if PSV didn't sell him, and then get pissed off at PSV, which would force them to sell him.

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It happened to be down to Peter Kanyon's involvement at Man United. As much as I don't like him now, to be fair, he did change the ways at Old Trafford in terms of spending money. He agreed a deal in region of 15 million for Robben to sign for us in the summer of 2004 and when he left, the deal went the shit. The board, being the cheap fuckers they are, then tried to do a cheaper deal and it went pair shape.

It's also similar to why we didn't sign Ronaldinho. Kenyon had a deal agreed at £24 million and then the board told him to go back to PSG and say he could only spend £21 million. He refused so the deal died and he went to Barcelona.

I wish we had Robben though.
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I would rather you had Robben.

And that we didn't get anyone in the summer, and that there was no Roman Abramovich, or Peter Kenyon. And that Batesy was still in charge.
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What I really don't get is that United panicked when they knew Chelsea were hovering and seemingly paid over the odds for Ronaldo (eventually he'll probably prove worth it but at the time and even now £11m is a little steep)...what's the difference in this case?
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You're talking £20m at the least.
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You'd be dead if Bates was still in charge. Remember you were a week from administration. I can appreciate the fact you like Bates because he did save Chelsea but if it wasn't for Abramovich, he would have took them under too.
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You're talking £20m at the least.
You want the best players then you have to pay for them.
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Old 03-02-2004, 06:15 PM   #638
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Got to say I'm shocked by Batesy leaving, I knew things were going against him at Chelsea, but for him to leave there must be some pretty shitty backroom politics going on.

Sadly, if (or maybe even when) this whole Abramovich thing blows over, he would have been able to pick up the reins again, but maybe not now
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Old 03-02-2004, 06:19 PM   #639
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You want the best players then you have to pay for them.
Which the United board don't want to do at the moment

I think United are gonna have the problem where every player they are after, another team will want, and these teams are willing to pay big money for them. If United wanna get back on a par with Arsenal they are gonna have to buy 2 or 3 decent defenders, a replacement for Beckham, another top quality midfielder, and a world class forward, Saha's good, but they need a Trezeguet or a Shevchenko, particularly if they wanna win the Champions League again
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Old 03-02-2004, 06:44 PM   #640
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^^ Yep

You *do* have to pay for them, United aren't doing that right now. Their standing in the game is slipping somewhat or at least isn't as good/strong as they seem to think it is, they have to realise they can't get a player just because they're interested in them.

Last I heard Ken Bates was supposedly looking into buying into Sheffield Wednesday...I dunno how much I'd believe it, I guess he might want to get back into a position of power somewhere but then again he's a businessman, and this deal has made him an absolute fortune. I wouldn't blame him if he retired.
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