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Old 03-02-2004, 06:50 PM   #641
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I think they need a right midfielder and a defender too. Kleberson has to go in the summer and I didn't see the point in Djemba-Djemba seeing how he rarely even gets on the bench.
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I'm not shocked at all. In ICT, we're doing this project, I won't bore you with the details, but we started it two months ago. Mines on Chelsea, and I put Bates in the 'old boys' section, not the 'current' one, because it was clear he wasn't going to put up with all the bullshit.

I called it from the start, in the thread I made when Batesy sold the club. Abramovich said Batesy was still in charge, but as soon as it stopped suiting him, he sorted that out, it was inevitable that he'd force Batesy out. I said that all along.

And we could have got another buyer, or sold of dickheads like Hasselbaink. There were other solutions, and I would rather inistrators sorted us out, then Abramovich did. He is a dodgy cunt, he has three peope on the board who know fuck all about sport. He can suck my dick whilst I'm pissing, the stupid prick is going to ruin Chelsea when he pisses off within two years.

And then we'll be in more shit then before he first came to the club.
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Well assuming Ferdinand comes back and Silvestre is healthy, I'd imagine it'd look something like this

Howard
G Neville
Ferdinand
Silvestre
?? (Left Back...can't honestly think of one off top of my head to buy but c'mon - Quinton Fortune???)
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That, in essence, is not a bad team at all.
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O'Shea at left back actually.
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I guess.

I dunno, from what I've seen from O'Shea recently (granted not a huge amount but still) he's either horribly out of form or one of those defenders who's better going forward than actually defending.
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He had a stinker the other week but that's about the only bad performance I've seen him put out so I have to give the lad the benefit of the doubt. Wes Brown concerns me more right now but I know he needs match practise.
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It's a decent enough first team, but not terribly creative.

We have no strength in depth anymore which is my main concern.
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People need to stop bítching about United. You've more points now than at this stage last year. Its simple with the way Arsenal are playing they could throw Real into the premiership and they'd still storm it. They have the leauge and they've had it for about a month
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Yeah but at this stage last year arsenal went to shit. We can't afford to hope arsenal have a bad run every year from now on.
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This is what the PSV president had to say about the Robben deal, lifted from football365.com

``I was very disappointed with Manchester United over the deal, whereas Chelsea were very different,'' van Raaij told The Sun.

``With their chief executive Peter Kenyon, a deal really is a deal. I have always been able to do good business with him.

``That was the case with Jaap Stam and Ruud van Nistelrooy's transfers [to United when Kenyon was chief executive there] and also recently with Robben when Manchester United wanted to sign him.

``Kenyon is trustworthy and a man of honour. He does not go back on his word but that is something United have now done.

``They obviously believe their name is enough to attract players and make them sign. After learning of our financial problems, they halved the offer. They did not keep to their original offer - they let us down.

``But Kenyon was honest throughout and I was very impressed.''

If that is true it's a pretty shady business method they've got going there...I guess I can see *why* they would but wouldn't it be obvious they'd just piss PSV off by doing that?
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Yeh, but Kenyon is a dodgy cunt who did ALOT of dodgy transfers at United.
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I think the reason people are talking about United is because clearly they are not the team they were.

Today Man U were officially named the Richest club in the world, way ahead of the next richest (Juventus) and yet they are going backwards on the pitch. They are not getting the results like they do a couple of seasons ago. They are struggling at times, and they are getting poor results against sides they should be beating comfortably. Also, when did United ever have to rely heavily on one man in the last few years before Van Nistelrooy arrived? Then they played as a team, and everyone played for each other. If United didn't have Van Nistelrooy, who as much as I hated to admit it is one of the top strikers in terms of his positioning and eye for goal (in the box), they would be in trouble.
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Yeah but like I said no matter how good United were Arsenal would have won the leauge this year there just too good this year
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wtf Leeds were 16th in that club rich list.
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It's based on income though not debt
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I still find it odd,they must've raised £60 million or thereabouts through selling players so i just don't understand how they're so close to crumbling.The Champs League/Uefa Cup bring alot of revenue but surely not enough to force debt if the club is without it.

There must be some sort of dodgy background goings-on i guess.:\
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From an interview with Jaap Stam:

Are there lessons to be learned after what happened at Lazio? Even the president is in jail now...

"It is so simple to pour millions and millions into a club. As long as you have enough money, every player in Europe can be brought in, but look at us now. The lessons we have learnt are harsh and the reality of our situation is driven home every day."

Is there a danger that Chelsea could go the way of Lazio?

"I look at Chelsea and I know what they are doing. They keep buying all the big names. There will be some success. They will win something. Exactly the same thing happened at Lazio. But look where this club is now. Here, in Roma, they operated no different from the Chelsea owners. But right now we are in a major financial crisis.

"The biggest problem for a club like Chelsea is that, because of all the money spent on the transfer market, the expectations are incredibly big. And when the time comes when there is not enough money to pay everyone, people will still have huge expectations.

"Even at Lazio, with most of our big names gone again, nobody says: 'Listen, we have to cut back, we are facing a few tough seasons ahead'. The whole world is still expecting miracles."
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Hoddle's turned down the Southampton job, looks like Paul Sturrock's gonna get it
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Thats what I've been saying from day one, Harvey said about how without Abramovich we would be in administration, but after he has pissed off, we will be in more trouble then we're already in.

We'll have to sell everyone and it will fuck everything up, the only good that comes out of that is that all the fake fan will hopefully piss off and we will use our youth team how we should be now, and getting through quality players who care about the club.
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Oh yeah,i don't think it's been posted about Sepp Blatter wanting the premiership down to 16 teams,which i think is the shittest idea ever.
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Smith appointed at Old Trafford
17:13 March, 3, 2004
Walter Smith has been named as Sir Alex Ferguson’s number two at Manchester United.


The former Glasgow Rangers and Everton manager has been out of the game since his sacking at Goodison Park, and his appointment at the champions comes as something of a surprise.

Sir Alex has been without a right-hand man since Carlos Queiroz quit to manage Real Madrid in the summer, and the Reds boss is delighted to offer Smith a the chance to succeed the Portuguese man.

“I am delighted that Walter has accepted the chance to join United,” said Ferguson. "There are few people in the game with his experience, knowledge and technical ability. His talent and background will be major assets at such a critical time of the season."

Smith has been handed the role until the end of the season, and follows previous number two’s at Old Trafford under the Ferguson regime such as Brian Kidd and Steve McClaren.

“The chance to come to Manchester United is something I couldn't turn down,” said Smith. “There are few bigger challenges in football than helping a successful side sustain their achievements. I have huge admiration for what Sir Alex has achieved at United and I'm excited to be part of it."
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Also,Dennis Wise has won his case for unfair dismissal against Leicester.

I would like to see the outcome if we weren't in the prem,cause that would have crippled the club.
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Smith appointed at Old Trafford
17:13 March, 3, 2004
Walter Smith has been named as Sir Alex Ferguson’s number two at Manchester United.


The former Glasgow Rangers and Everton manager has been out of the game since his sacking at Goodison Park, and his appointment at the champions comes as something of a surprise.

Sir Alex has been without a right-hand man since Carlos Queiroz quit to manage Real Madrid in the summer, and the Reds boss is delighted to offer Smith a the chance to succeed the Portuguese man.

“I am delighted that Walter has accepted the chance to join United,” said Ferguson. "There are few people in the game with his experience, knowledge and technical ability. His talent and background will be major assets at such a critical time of the season."

Smith has been handed the role until the end of the season, and follows previous number two’s at Old Trafford under the Ferguson regime such as Brian Kidd and Steve McClaren.

“The chance to come to Manchester United is something I couldn't turn down,” said Smith. “There are few bigger challenges in football than helping a successful side sustain their achievements. I have huge admiration for what Sir Alex has achieved at United and I'm excited to be part of it."
That's great for United.
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Thats what I've been saying from day one, Harvey said about how without Abramovich we would be in administration, but after he has pissed off, we will be in more trouble then we're already in.

We'll have to sell everyone and it will fuck everything up, the only good that comes out of that is that all the fake fan will hopefully piss off and we will use our youth team how we should be now, and getting through quality players who care about the club.
I did say it would all end in tears ages ago though.
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I did say it would all end in tears ages ago though.
And I never doubted that, I have never liked this whole Abramovich thing. It was destined for disaster from day one.
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I think that everyone is.
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I'd think they'd use Robben in the support striker role or something.I thinkl that,if fit,Chelsea will want him and Duff in almost all the time (like Lampard and Makelele right now).
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Old 03-04-2004, 07:02 PM   #673
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They spent over £100 million on players and they are just miffed now? Are their heads stuck up their arses or something because the rest of the sport knows what's going on.
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Old 03-05-2004, 11:25 AM   #674
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They spent over £100 million on players and they are just miffed now? Are their heads stuck up their arses or something because the rest of the sport knows what's going on.
I think it's more about them being surprised due to they,themselves not being at the club very long.

I think Cole will definetly leave in teh summer now though.
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Oh yeah, Joe Mole is definately gone. He was on his way out the minute he refused to go to Moscow.
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Old 03-07-2004, 05:49 AM   #676
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Yeah he was shít anyway
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Christophe Dugarry has left Birmingham City by mutual consent after a season blighted by a recurring knee injury.



Dugarry signed a permanent deal at St Andrews last summer but his family struggled to settle in England.

"Frankly I was living on my own in the past six months because my family did not like living in England," Dugarry told L'Equipe newspaper.

"Since the club have nothing to fear nor to hope for anymore we agreed to part company on good terms." The 31-year-old World Cup winner initially joined Birmingham on loan from Bordeaux in January 2003 and was instrumental in Birmingham preserving their Premiership status
But he has struggled with a knee injury throughout the current campaign and scored just one goal in 12 Premiership starts.


His last start came against Aston Villa, but Dugarry limped out of the match with a recurrence of the injury and returned to France to recuperate.

Birmingham manager Steve Bruce admitted that leaving St Andrews was the best option for the French striker, who still had 16 months left to run on his contract.

"Christophe's recent problems have been well documented with his family finding it hard to settle in the area and his niggling knee injury," Bruce told the club's official website.

"In the end we decided that a parting of the ways would be best for both parties.

"I would like to wish him all the very best for the future."

Dugarry, who has played for Bordeaux, Barcelona, Milan and Marseille, is hopeful of finding a new club.

"I am still very fit but I don't know where I will be playing next season," he added. "All I know is that I will ask my family first before making my decision."
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Yeah i saw that about Dugarry earlier,good luck to him for the future but he didn't seem right this season.At least he can't prove me wrong about that this saturday now.
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