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Old 06-13-2005, 07:57 PM   #641
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I really wish I would have been able to order this. Just to see all these shoots. I really hope they keep them in the DVD.
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I cant believe I got the best ppv in years for free! I feel I should send some money to Paul Heyman.
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Btw, anyone else agree that the WWE guys had the worst matches?Eddie/Benoit could've been much better, and Rey was awful tonight.Jericho could've been better, but was alright. They just acted like they were n WWE.I'm tired of seeing sleeper holds and countless reversals all the time that lead to nowhere.
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That was my first real exposure to ECW, besides the DVD, and seeing the Kimona striptease on the net years ago AND I WANT MORE!!
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For this night....Paul Heyman was god to many people
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Incredible. Coming into today I was really worried that instead of a true ECW show I'd see the weak sauce the WWE passes of as "hardcore" or "ECW rules"...but this show embodied the passion and intensity that defined ECW. Paul Heyman always said that ECW was about honoring the fans. The angles were more realistic. The storylines were more mature. The wrestlers always gave everything they had in the ring. And the comedy was was gold.

This show delivered on absolutely every point that made ECW what it was. Even the WWE portions played smartly into the current storylines. And although the show was missing some of the ECW icons, it still felt genuine.
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Old 06-13-2005, 08:07 PM   #648
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Was the vladimir dude there, along with long haired, everything in black shades dude?
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Incredible. Coming into today I was really worried that instead of a true ECW show I'd see the weak sauce the WWE passes of as "hardcore" or "ECW rules"...but this show embodied the passion and intensity that defined ECW. Paul Heyman always said that ECW was about honoring the fans. The angles were more realistic. The storylines were more mature. The wrestlers always gave everything they had in the ring. And the comedy was was gold.

This show delivered on absolutely every point that made ECW what it was. Even the WWE portions played smartly into the current storylines. And although the show was missing some of the ECW icons, it still felt genuine.
Exactly what PH said. What an unbelievable show. The WWE guys being there didn't ruin it at all, but really added to celebrate and glorify how awesome ECW really was. Best $15 I have spent on wrestling in a long time
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I read that Hardcore Homecoming was good, but nowhere near this intense or authentic. Why? Because it didn't have Paul Heyman.

If anything, this show proves (if anybody doubted) that Heyman is a genius in this business and that instead of hiring Hollywood wash-outs they should give Heyman the freedom to do what he does best- write original characters that showcase the best in his performers and connect with the audience.

I'm getting a little tired of the generic "cocky blue-chjpper" vs "tough, hard-working face" routine.
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Old 06-13-2005, 08:10 PM   #651
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Was the vladimir dude there, along with long haired, everything in black shades dude?
Long haired dude was there..

No hat guy though..

Missed the straw hat..
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Old 06-13-2005, 08:10 PM   #652
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I'm so glad this PPV was everything is could be.
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Best PPV I have ever seen. It was so emotional for me and those shhots were gold.
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Old 06-13-2005, 08:12 PM   #655
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Long haired dude was there..

No hat guy though..

Missed the straw hat..
Hat guy was at Hardcore Homecoming. Maybe he just didn't have the $$ to be at ONS. I hear the tickets were sick expensive.
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Wow. Wow.

I am glad I decided to order this.

I have never seen ECW before but.... Wow.

Just wow.
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Is long-haired guy the fan in the front row? And was Vladimir next to him?
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Was Sabu there?
He had a match.
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WOW!

Would have paid $30 bucks just to see RVD shoot. Storm/Jericho The Awesome/Tanaka match was awesome. I thought Awesome was completely washed up but he proved me wrong. Heyman on the mic.

BEST PAY PER VIEW IN YEARS!
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Who's better? Sabu or Sandman? And why?
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Who was the bigger star in ECW? Sabu or Sandman?
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lol I jut typed Sa F'N bu randomlythere.. I never even saw the question
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what a great friggin ppv!!!!!!! taped it and the only problem was right at the beginning of enter the sandman, the friggin digital cable turned to some sports program because it was being recorded or something. still got it all on tape
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get the fuck out of here

Just noticed i was being critical myself, sorry about that. Though it was only to the wwe guys who could've put abit more effort in was all i was saying, still though i'm not relly complaining, just wondered if anyone agreed.
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Who was the bigger star in ECW? Sabu or Sandman?

Based on the entrance from Sandman, i'm going to go with him, and since he stood with Austin at the end of the show. I'm only guessing though as i didn't see ECW much either before this.Sabu was fucking class in his match.
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Was the vladimir dude there, along with long haired, everything in black shades dude?
Not only was the long haired shades guy there, Paul Heyman, in the middle of his interview, stoped and looked at the guy, then pointed to him and said, "You are one of the craziest sons of a bitch I've ever seen."

Mad props to that guy, he is in nearly every ECW tape that I own.

I ALMOST ended up not buying the show. I was so worried that it was going to be completely watered down. You know, Attitude Era hardcore matches kind of thing. I'm glad to say that it wasn't. It was definitely a nostalgia trip for me, and a very heart felt one at that. Once Heyman got into the ring, it was pretty emotional. And of course, the RVD shoot was great also.

Match wise... it could of been better. To no surprise to me at all, the WWE guys actually had the worst matches. Jericho did well, but not as good as he is truly able to do. Benoit vs Gurrerro was... well... lame. They are seriously not the same guys from the ECW of old. I even said to my girlfriend, "I think they have been with the WWE for too long. Rey vs Psicosis should of been great, but it was a pretty quick WWE style match. Psicosis didn't do too much high flying, and Rey really only did his signature moves and called it a day.

The 3-way between Super Crazy, Tajiri, and little Guido had the potential to steal the show. They ended the match too quickly though. I was expecting some fast paced countering of counters between Super Crazy and Tajiri, but I didn't get it. It was still much better than the usual PPV crap we get from the WWE though.

Tanaka vs Awesome finally opened the flood gates. They had a great hardcore mach up, back and forth, kicking out of each others finishers, then when you knew the match was over, someone yet again kicked out. Great stuff.

It was great to see Sabu in the ring again. I'm very happy they got him to appear on the show. Atomic Arabian Facebuster through the table anyone?

And the main event, the main event was everything a Dudleyz tag team match up should be. They all beat the hell out of each other with nearly everything imaginable, then hit the flaming tables spot. Again good stuff.

But in the end, what it was all about was the sense of pride and honor that the ECW guys had. And thankfully, even after being closed for almost 5 years, they still have it.

I'm glad I bought the PPV, I taped it, and I will never forget it. Isn't it funny? You take the WWE name and the WWE stars out of the equation and you are left with the best PPV I have seen in quite a while. While most of the matches failed to capture that old ECW essence, it was still a better show than what we get from the WWE.

Two things really stick out from the night though. And those are RVD's shoot, and Heyman's shoot.

"JBL, we all know that the only reason that you were champion for ten months is because Triple H didn't want to work on Tuesdays"

"Everyone hide your wives, it's Edge."

"Edge, I've got two words for you, MATT FRIGGIN' HARDY!"

"Don't you remember that Fonzy? Back when RVD had a vocabulary? When I said more than 'whatever' and 'cool'? Remember that?"
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Match wise... it could of been better. To no surprise to me at all, the WWE guys actually had the worst matches. Jericho did well, but not as good as he is truly able to do. Benoit vs Gurrerro was... well... lame. They are seriously not the same guys from the ECW of old. I even said to my girlfriend, "I think they have been with the WWE for too long. Rey vs Psicosis should of been great, but it was a pretty quick WWE style match. Psicosis didn't do too much high flying, and Rey really only did his signature moves and called it a day.

THANK YOU FOR SAYING EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.(read my post quoted by RDD) I agree completely. And with the rest of your post to.
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It pissed me off the Extreme Heat was in no way Extreme...except for the fans chanting "You Suck Dick"

Also seeing WWE Advertise there ppv on it wasnt good but then again I guess since Vince did host the ppv he does have the right to do that....

But what the hell was with the trailer for The Devils Rejects?....I know DDP is in it but I didnt think it had anything to do with ECW or WWE. Or did it...somewhere I heard that some other wrestlers were in it...but that might of been a big lie because it was said around the same time that DDP was confirmed for it...

I do think Jericho is in it though
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Who was the bigger star in ECW? Sabu or Sandman?

That is highly debatable. For me personally, it's Sabu. I say that because Sabu was the first guy I had ever seen that did the things that he does.
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SHIT!!! I can't believe I almost didn't order it... I would have had to kill myself.

ECW ECW ECW ECW ECW!!!!!
ECW ECW ECW ECW ECW!!!!!
ECW ECW ECW ECW ECW!!!!!
ECW ECW ECW ECW ECW!!!!!

If this is it, at least ECW finally got the end off it deserved.
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To put it simply, ECW couldn't of gone out on a higher note than this.
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Old 06-13-2005, 08:47 PM   #673
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Who was the bigger star in ECW? Sabu or Sandman?
Sabu. He perosnified everything that made ECW stand out from the other companies. Especially in its early days. The WWF still had guys like The Goon and Mantaur running around and here was Sabu: this insane Arab just covered in scars who only spoke in grunts and had to be wheeled out to the ring like Hannibal Lecter delivering sick highspots, wrapping himself in barbed wire before launching himself at his opponents and in general delivering moves that caused damage to anyone in the vicinity, himself included. The reason Cactus jack was sent to ECW in the first place was because Sabu/Jack was seen as a Hardcore Dream Match (and WCW didn't have the stomach for it.)

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Based on the entrance from Sandman, i'm going to go with him, and since he stood with Austin at the end of the show. I'm only guessing though as i didn't see ECW much either before this.Sabu was fucking class in his match.
Why are you answering if you don't know for sure? I hate when people do that.
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I have changed my mind on an ECW brand and WCW brand, and etc. However, I think the following would own: We all know alot of the ECW guys will get tryouts now and some will probably be hired. I think Heyman should bring his team in and continue to screw with RAW and SD! Eventually, we have all the ECW guys land on Smackdown to add to their roster and give them some more credibility, and we see Heyman take over as GM. This way, you have a better and more diverse SD! roster, you have Heyman in a better spot, and you have Bischoff still on RAW with his roster. It would definately add to the feeling of competition between brands, and I think it would open the doors for much more interbrand conflict, which would boost the ratings.
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You don't know too much about E-C-Dub do you??

Seemed to me whenever a sleeper hold came about, it got boo'ed. I don't mind reversals of moves much, but everything gets repetitive after a while. But i'm really not in the mood to complain. And nah like i said, i only saw a few shows on Bravo(which is on sky) before, and a few from my mick foley dvd, so i don't know much about ECW, but i really got into the ppv tonight and felt apart of it, if that makes any sense.
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Why are you answering if you don't know for sure? I hate when people do that.
Because I wasn't really answering, just giving my opinion based on the crowd reaction, i have never seen an entrance like sandmans tonight.
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THANK YOU FOR SAYING EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.(read my post quoted by RDD) I agree completely. And with the rest of your post to.
I think RDD was more commenting on your statement about sleepers and counters that lead nowhere. There was very, very, very little of that at this show. Although, I didn't see the back and forth counter after counter match that I was hoping to see with Gurrerro vs Benoit, and Tajiri vs Super Crazy vs Little Guido. Jericho was definitely better than what we normally see of him, and he still put on a great match, I just can't help but think that it could of been even better if he hadn't of spent the last 6 years being watered down.

The same goes for Benoit and Gurrerro, they just have different styles now, they aren't the same guys from ECW. They still had a good match, but it was more WWE style than ECW style.
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Btw PH, why did that deserve a neg rep? Arent i allowed to have an opinion on it after seeing the show tonight?
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The Benoit/Eddie match was a little lame to be honest. Not lame in the sense that it was a bad match, but lame in the sense that putting those two together usually results in an absolute classic, so they didn't meet expectations. Kinda like Godfather III..not a bad little movie, but it certainly didn't make the Earth move.
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