MLB 2007 Season Thread - Page 17

**FakeLaser** · 05-02-2007, 08:41 PM

Wang was also out with a hamstring injury. That's 3 hamstring injuries.

**FakeLaser** · 05-02-2007, 08:42 PM

Oh yeah, Matsui was also out with a hamstring injury. That's 4.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 05-02-2007, 08:44 PM

I don't see how Hughes could be blamed on him, I suppose they got an issue with Wang and Matsui (didn't realize Matsui was out with hammy injury)

Hamstrings happen all the time in baseball though, its just the nature of the game, you start and stop so much. I just think its funny they are trying to blame this on someone, its just a stretch of bad luck.

**Dragon** · 05-02-2007, 08:46 PM

The firing of the strength coach had more to do with all the players not liking the new routine and pretty much not wanting to follow it at all. I'm sure all the injuries didn't help his cause at all though. His last job was a country club worker or something and the last time he actually coached baseball players was something like 10 years ago.

This is probably the best move anyway, if all the players were questioning his stretching routines and showing resistance to the guy it obviously wasn't working out.

**Dragon** · 05-02-2007, 08:47 PM

I didn't read the article though so I don't know what they are saying. Everything I've heard has been that the players don't like the routine at all.

**SammyG** · 05-02-2007, 10:38 PM

Dodgers looking way solid early on.

**YOUR Hero** · 05-02-2007, 10:45 PM

So the 'spare no expense' Yankees hired a strengthening coach that was working at a golf club and hasn't worked with baseball players in 10+ years?

Wow

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 05-02-2007, 11:59 PM

Yeah you would think they could afford to get the top of the line guy to come in

They just replaced him with his assistant anyway, you would assume this guy would have the same style as the guy he was assisting...maybe not though

**MVP** · 05-03-2007, 01:32 AM

The Brewers have the best record in baseball right now. This year's Detroit?

**SammyG** · 05-03-2007, 01:45 AM

come on now. 27 games into the year... LOTS of baseball still to be played..

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 05-03-2007, 02:10 AM

From what I am hearing though the Brewers are a legit team, not saying they are gonna be in the World Series or something but they aren't a fluke

**FakeLaser** · 05-03-2007, 03:17 AM

I picked them to win the NL Central.

**FakeLaser** · 05-03-2007, 03:17 AM

And I said they reminded me of the Tigers, if I recall correctly.

**Evil Vito** · 05-03-2007, 07:52 AM

John Maine named NL Pitcher of the Month and Jose Reyes named NL Player of the Month.

First time two Mets have taken the awards since Dwight Gooden and Gary Carter in September 1985

**YOUR Hero** · 05-03-2007, 10:50 AM

Brewers are a good team.

**ct2k** · 05-03-2007, 11:17 AM

Brewers have been decent for a few years, maybe this year they're finally putting the pieces together

**FakeLaser** · 05-03-2007, 06:53 PM

I can't even believe this. Actually, yes I can.

A source close to the right-hander told the Boston Globe's Nick Cafardo that Carl Pavano will likely require Tommy John surgery.

Cafardo writes that "preliminary indications are that the ligament to the elbow is pretty messed up. Not completely torn, but stretched." If Pavano undergoes surgery, he'll miss the rest of the season. He might not be ready for 2008.

**Boondock Saint** · 05-03-2007, 08:16 PM

What's going on, Dice-K, what's going on?

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 05-03-2007, 08:31 PM

Can't handle the Mariners. Maybe Ichiro tried to set him on fire during warmups.

**Dragon** · 05-03-2007, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FakeRazor

I can't even believe this. Actually, yes I can.

A source close to the right-hander told the Boston Globe's Nick Cafardo that Carl Pavano will likely require Tommy John surgery.

Cafardo writes that "preliminary indications are that the ligament to the elbow is pretty messed up. Not completely torn, but stretched." If Pavano undergoes surgery, he'll miss the rest of the season. He might not be ready for 2008.

Yeah, really wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't pitch for the Yankees at all again. Every injury seems to take him twice as long to recover from and not soon after another injury will pop up. Last year he was out a couple months because he fell on his ass, this will definitely knock him out for a while. A shame too because he could have made up big time for the last two seasons if he had just pitched this season.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 05-03-2007, 09:19 PM

Matsuzaka is pitching like MastuKAKA right now

No but seriously that was the worst first inning I've seen in awhile, hopefully he pitches shut out ball the rest of the way

**FakeLaser** · 05-04-2007, 02:40 AM

Swept the Rangers. I'll take it.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 05-04-2007, 03:04 AM

lol Manny hit a homer in 8th and didn't leave homeplate until it was already caught by a fan.....probably one of the funnier things I've seen

**FakeLaser** · 05-04-2007, 03:09 AM

Man, if the Devil Rays would trade one of their outfielders for some relief help or a starter they can be a pretty decent team. They have a good closer, Kazmir is the man and this Shields guy looks to be the real deal. He's tied with Johan for most K's in the AL. They only have 2 good starters but that's more than they've ever had, and they've never had a good closer. Definitely a team to keep an eye on.

**Evil Vito** · 05-04-2007, 07:54 AM

Dear Lord. Mets score 6 in the 9th for a come-from-behind victory against the D-Backs

**YOUR Hero** · 05-04-2007, 11:05 AM

TBay is a team for the future, Razor. Mind you thatg future could be very soon.

**Loose Cannon** · 05-04-2007, 02:40 PM

ST. LOUIS (AP) -- St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Josh Hancock was drunk at the time of his fatal accident, and marijuana was found in the sport utility vehicle he was driving.

Police Chief Joe Mokwa also said at a news conference Friday that the 29-year-old Hancock was speaking on a cell phone at about the time of the crash early Sunday on Interstate 64 in St. Louis.

"Mr. Hancock was legally intoxicated at the time of the accident," Mokwa said.

St. Louis medical examiner Michael Graham said Hancock's blood-alcohol level was 0.157, nearly twice Missouri's legal limit of 0.08.

Mokwa said 8.55 grams of marijuana and a glass pipe used to smoke marijuana were found in the rented Ford Explorer. Toxicology tests to determine if drugs were in his system had not been completed.

An accident reconstruction team determined Hancock was traveling 68 mph in a 55 mph zone when his SUV struck the back of a flatbed tow truck stopped in a driving lane. Mokwa said there was no evidence Hancock tried to stop. He did swerve, but too late to avoid the collision.

Graham said the pitcher died "within seconds" of head injuries. Hancock was not wearing a seat belt, but Graham said the belt would not have prevented his death.

Mokwa said cell phone records showed Hancock was speaking with a female acquaintance at about the time of the accident. Mokwa said the conversation ended abruptly, presumably when the accident occurred.

Hancock, a key bullpen member on the World Series championship team last season, was driving alone. The tow truck driver was not hurt.

Hancock, who pitched three innings of relief in last Saturday's 8-1 loss to the Cubs, left Busch Stadium around 6:30 p.m. and arrived about two hours later at Mike Shannon's, a restaurant and bar owned by the former Cardinals third baseman who now is a team broadcaster. Police said Hancock left Shannon's shortly after midnight.

At 12:34 a.m. Sunday, the tow truck came upon a disabled Geo Prism and stopped behind it with its yellow lights flashing to protect the car, Mokwa said. A few moments later, Hancock's SUV struck the rear of the tow truck.

"If you drink, don't drive," Mokwa said. "Use a taxi. Have a designated driver. Call a friend."

Graham said Hancock had severe chest injuries as well as the fatal head injuries.

"There's nothing at all that could have been done for him," Graham said.

An estimated 500 mourners turned out Thursday for a memorial service for Hancock in Tupelo, Miss., recalling the pitcher as a goodhearted prankster. Among the mourners were Hancock's teammates, coaches, manager Tony La Russa and general manager Walt Jocketty. Hancock was buried Wednesday in rural Itawamba County, Miss.

Hancock made his major league debut in September 2002 and played for four major league clubs. He went 3-3 with a 4.09 ERA in 62 regular-season appearances for the Cardinals last season, leading the bullpen in innings, and pitched in three postseason games.

He was 0-1 with a 3.55 ERA in eight games this season.

Hancock joined the Cardinals in spring training last season after Cincinnati released him for violating a weight clause in his contract. He also pitched for Boston and Philadelphia.

The Cardinals postponed a home game the day of the accident against Chicago and haven't won since. They were swept in a three-game series in Milwaukee and had a day off Thursday.

**Boondock Saint** · 05-04-2007, 03:14 PM

Damn.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 05-04-2007, 04:48 PM

Too bad the DRays play in the AL East, not saying they can't ever compete but it's gonna be tough for them

**SammyG** · 05-04-2007, 09:52 PM

Cmonnn LA

**Supreme Olajuwon** · 05-04-2007, 09:56 PM

I just heard some ridiculous stat on the Reds radio broadcast that in Greg Maddux's entire 21 year career, he has had a 3-0 count against a hitter 18 times. That is insane.

**SammyG** · 05-04-2007, 09:57 PM

Yeah that is ridiculous

**ClockShot** · 05-04-2007, 10:00 PM

Wow. We got a crazy game going on right now.

I can hear the boos all the way from The Bronx. I think we're gonna demand a head pretty soon.

**FakeLaser** · 05-04-2007, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme

I just heard some ridiculous stat on the Reds radio broadcast that in Greg Maddux's entire 21 year career, he has had a 3-0 count against a hitter 18 times. That is insane.

Wow, that's ridiculous.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 05-04-2007, 10:11 PM

Alex Cora with a triple.....A part of me wants to see Pedoria keep playing since traditionally rookies have rough starts but Cora plays well whenever he is given the opportunity

**ClockShot** · 05-04-2007, 10:13 PM

The 5th inning from hell. Again.

**SammyG** · 05-04-2007, 10:25 PM

rofl Yankees

**OssMan** · 05-04-2007, 11:01 PM

lol Julio Franco homered off the Big Unit

**Fenix122** · 05-04-2007, 11:09 PM

John Maine for Cy Young

**ClockShot** · 05-04-2007, 11:32 PM

Damn. Tough game. Jeter's 20 game hit streak snapped, bullpen overworked, and a possible Johnny Damon injury.

05-02-2007, 08:41 PM	#641
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	Wang was also out with a hamstring injury. That's 3 hamstring injuries.

05-02-2007, 08:42 PM	#642
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	Oh yeah, Matsui was also out with a hamstring injury. That's 4.

05-02-2007, 08:44 PM	#643
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	I don't see how Hughes could be blamed on him, I suppose they got an issue with Wang and Matsui (didn't realize Matsui was out with hammy injury) Hamstrings happen all the time in baseball though, its just the nature of the game, you start and stop so much. I just think its funny they are trying to blame this on someone, its just a stretch of bad luck.

05-02-2007, 08:46 PM	#644
Dragon REALMENTE Posts: 11,271	The firing of the strength coach had more to do with all the players not liking the new routine and pretty much not wanting to follow it at all. I'm sure all the injuries didn't help his cause at all though. His last job was a country club worker or something and the last time he actually coached baseball players was something like 10 years ago. This is probably the best move anyway, if all the players were questioning his stretching routines and showing resistance to the guy it obviously wasn't working out.

05-02-2007, 08:47 PM	#645
Dragon REALMENTE Posts: 11,271	I didn't read the article though so I don't know what they are saying. Everything I've heard has been that the players don't like the routine at all.

05-02-2007, 10:38 PM	#646
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,768	Dodgers looking way solid early on.

05-02-2007, 10:45 PM	#647
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	So the 'spare no expense' Yankees hired a strengthening coach that was working at a golf club and hasn't worked with baseball players in 10+ years? Wow

05-02-2007, 11:59 PM	#648
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Yeah you would think they could afford to get the top of the line guy to come in They just replaced him with his assistant anyway, you would assume this guy would have the same style as the guy he was assisting...maybe not though

05-03-2007, 01:32 AM	#649
MVP Mas Vagina Porfavor Posts: 11,343	The Brewers have the best record in baseball right now. This year's Detroit?

05-03-2007, 01:45 AM	#650
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,768	come on now. 27 games into the year... LOTS of baseball still to be played..

05-03-2007, 02:10 AM	#651
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	From what I am hearing though the Brewers are a legit team, not saying they are gonna be in the World Series or something but they aren't a fluke

05-03-2007, 03:17 AM	#652
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	I picked them to win the NL Central.

05-03-2007, 03:17 AM	#653
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	And I said they reminded me of the Tigers, if I recall correctly.

05-03-2007, 07:52 AM	#654
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,383	John Maine named NL Pitcher of the Month and Jose Reyes named NL Player of the Month. First time two Mets have taken the awards since Dwight Gooden and Gary Carter in September 1985

05-03-2007, 10:50 AM	#655
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	Brewers are a good team.

05-03-2007, 11:17 AM	#656
ct2k Triple A Posts: 48,551	Brewers have been decent for a few years, maybe this year they're finally putting the pieces together

05-03-2007, 06:53 PM	#657
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	I can't even believe this. Actually, yes I can. A source close to the right-hander told the Boston Globe's Nick Cafardo that Carl Pavano will likely require Tommy John surgery. Cafardo writes that "preliminary indications are that the ligament to the elbow is pretty messed up. Not completely torn, but stretched." If Pavano undergoes surgery, he'll miss the rest of the season. He might not be ready for 2008.

05-03-2007, 08:16 PM	#658
Boondock Saint Posts: 8,795	What's going on, Dice-K, what's going on?

05-03-2007, 08:31 PM	#659
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,765	Can't handle the Mariners. Maybe Ichiro tried to set him on fire during warmups.

05-03-2007, 09:19 PM	#661
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Matsuzaka is pitching like MastuKAKA right now No but seriously that was the worst first inning I've seen in awhile, hopefully he pitches shut out ball the rest of the way

05-04-2007, 02:40 AM	#662
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	Swept the Rangers. I'll take it.

05-04-2007, 03:04 AM	#663
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	lol Manny hit a homer in 8th and didn't leave homeplate until it was already caught by a fan.....probably one of the funnier things I've seen

05-04-2007, 03:09 AM	#664
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	Man, if the Devil Rays would trade one of their outfielders for some relief help or a starter they can be a pretty decent team. They have a good closer, Kazmir is the man and this Shields guy looks to be the real deal. He's tied with Johan for most K's in the AL. They only have 2 good starters but that's more than they've ever had, and they've never had a good closer. Definitely a team to keep an eye on.

05-04-2007, 07:54 AM	#665
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,383	Dear Lord. Mets score 6 in the 9th for a come-from-behind victory against the D-Backs

05-04-2007, 11:05 AM	#666
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	TBay is a team for the future, Razor. Mind you thatg future could be very soon.

05-04-2007, 02:40 PM	#667
Loose Cannon I'm all there is Posts: 31,811	ST. LOUIS (AP) -- St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Josh Hancock was drunk at the time of his fatal accident, and marijuana was found in the sport utility vehicle he was driving. Police Chief Joe Mokwa also said at a news conference Friday that the 29-year-old Hancock was speaking on a cell phone at about the time of the crash early Sunday on Interstate 64 in St. Louis. "Mr. Hancock was legally intoxicated at the time of the accident," Mokwa said. St. Louis medical examiner Michael Graham said Hancock's blood-alcohol level was 0.157, nearly twice Missouri's legal limit of 0.08. Mokwa said 8.55 grams of marijuana and a glass pipe used to smoke marijuana were found in the rented Ford Explorer. Toxicology tests to determine if drugs were in his system had not been completed. An accident reconstruction team determined Hancock was traveling 68 mph in a 55 mph zone when his SUV struck the back of a flatbed tow truck stopped in a driving lane. Mokwa said there was no evidence Hancock tried to stop. He did swerve, but too late to avoid the collision. Graham said the pitcher died "within seconds" of head injuries. Hancock was not wearing a seat belt, but Graham said the belt would not have prevented his death. Mokwa said cell phone records showed Hancock was speaking with a female acquaintance at about the time of the accident. Mokwa said the conversation ended abruptly, presumably when the accident occurred. Hancock, a key bullpen member on the World Series championship team last season, was driving alone. The tow truck driver was not hurt. Hancock, who pitched three innings of relief in last Saturday's 8-1 loss to the Cubs, left Busch Stadium around 6:30 p.m. and arrived about two hours later at Mike Shannon's, a restaurant and bar owned by the former Cardinals third baseman who now is a team broadcaster. Police said Hancock left Shannon's shortly after midnight. At 12:34 a.m. Sunday, the tow truck came upon a disabled Geo Prism and stopped behind it with its yellow lights flashing to protect the car, Mokwa said. A few moments later, Hancock's SUV struck the rear of the tow truck. "If you drink, don't drive," Mokwa said. "Use a taxi. Have a designated driver. Call a friend." Graham said Hancock had severe chest injuries as well as the fatal head injuries. "There's nothing at all that could have been done for him," Graham said. An estimated 500 mourners turned out Thursday for a memorial service for Hancock in Tupelo, Miss., recalling the pitcher as a goodhearted prankster. Among the mourners were Hancock's teammates, coaches, manager Tony La Russa and general manager Walt Jocketty. Hancock was buried Wednesday in rural Itawamba County, Miss. Hancock made his major league debut in September 2002 and played for four major league clubs. He went 3-3 with a 4.09 ERA in 62 regular-season appearances for the Cardinals last season, leading the bullpen in innings, and pitched in three postseason games. He was 0-1 with a 3.55 ERA in eight games this season. Hancock joined the Cardinals in spring training last season after Cincinnati released him for violating a weight clause in his contract. He also pitched for Boston and Philadelphia. The Cardinals postponed a home game the day of the accident against Chicago and haven't won since. They were swept in a three-game series in Milwaukee and had a day off Thursday.

05-04-2007, 03:14 PM	#668
Boondock Saint Posts: 8,795	Damn.

05-04-2007, 04:48 PM	#669
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Too bad the DRays play in the AL East, not saying they can't ever compete but it's gonna be tough for them

05-04-2007, 09:52 PM	#670
SammyG LAKE SHOW HOES Posts: 25,768	Cmonnn LA

05-04-2007, 09:56 PM	#671
Supreme Olajuwon You know that�s right Posts: 52,765	I just heard some ridiculous stat on the Reds radio broadcast that in Greg Maddux's entire 21 year career, he has had a 3-0 count against a hitter 18 times. That is insane.