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Old 04-26-2009, 02:07 PM   #641
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They are talking about moving Jamaal Anderson to Tackle beside Peria Jerry. How fucking awesome would that be.
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Old 04-26-2009, 02:14 PM   #642
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They talked about that last year with Charles Grant.. We got DE Bobby McCray from JAX and DT Sed Ellis in the draft.. The rumors were flying all last summer in in training camp that on 3rd and long and in passing situations, they would drop Grant down to DT with Ellis and have Will Smith and McCray on the ends.. Kinda like what the Giants had done to the Pats in the superbowl..

Never happened once, all season.. Not one single time..
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Old 04-26-2009, 02:58 PM   #643
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Bills are having a near perfect draft.
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Old 04-26-2009, 03:44 PM   #644
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Kris P I have a feeling you and I are going to be exchanging a lot of words this offseason as well as the upcoming season.
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AFC West went from bad to worse, haha wtf are they thinking in Denver and Oakland? Even the Chargers draft an outside backer rather than inside one. And the Chiefs seem like they did ok, but Jackson was kind of a reach but they now don't even have Gonzales for Fat Cassel's security blanket. 8-8 wins that division.
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Old 04-26-2009, 04:08 PM   #646
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Kris P I have a feeling you and I are going to be exchanging a lot of words this offseason as well as the upcoming season.
Yeah MTH was the only Falcunts fan around here for the past couple of seasons.. Glad one fluke year has brought more of y'all around..
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Old 04-26-2009, 04:21 PM   #647
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Yeah you're right. It was a fluke. I mean its not like Roddy or Turner are that good. Or Harry Douglas is going to be a serviceable slot wideout. Or Jenkins is going to be that perfect complement number 2. Or Matt Ryan is going to be a top 10 QB in the league.

Plus add in that senior citizen Tony Gonzalez to the mold. I'm expecting a step backwards this year.
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:05 PM   #648
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Eagles acquire Ellis Hobbs for two 5th round draft choices. Don't know if its this year's draft or next year's.

Ellis Hobbs sucks doesn't he?
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I am so incredibly angry the Broncos didn't draft Orakpo

I can't even comprehend it
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Eagles acquire Ellis Hobbs for two 5th round draft choices. Don't know if its this year's draft or next year's.

Ellis Hobbs sucks doesn't he?
I think he gets beat a lot in coverage. Ask Stima or VEL.
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Broncos grab a WR and QB.

I hope that the first home game is nationally televised.
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:42 PM   #652
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I think the only choice I like by the Broncos is McBath

I like that guy
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:08 AM   #653
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I am confused by Josh McDaniels tactics.
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Don't be, he peaked as a personal assistant. He was spoiled by having absolute veterans around him in New England. Now, we are seeing the cracks in his shit. Too bad players havent even put on pads yet.
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Where's Latrell Spreewell when you need him. A good throttling is what McDaniels needs.
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Undrafted free agent signings:

AFC EAST

New England Patriots

* S Marcus McClinton (Kentucky)
* CB Jamar Love (Arkansas)
* QB Brian Hoyer (Michigan St.)
* LB Antonio Appleby (Virginia)

Miami Dolphins

* TE Jared Bronson (Central Washington)
* OG Mark Lewis (Oregon)
* DE Ryan Baker (Purdue)
* LB Orion Martin (Virginia Tech)

New York Jets

* DE Jamaal Westerman (Rutgers)
* TE Andrew Davie (Arkansas)
* DL Matt Kroul (Jets)
* P T.J. Conley (Idaho)
* TE Robert Myers (Utah State)
* DE Zach Potter (Nebraska)
* TE J’Nathan Bullock (Cleveland State - Basketball)

Buffalo Bills

* DL David Lindquist (Illinois)
* OT Joel Bell (Furman)
* TE Travis McCall (Alabama)
* K Danny Urrego (Portland State)

AFC WEST

Kansas City Chiefs

* DE Pierre Walters (Eastern Illinois)
* WR Taurus Johnson (South Florida)
* LB Jovan Belcher (Maine)
* DB Londen Fryar (W. Michigan)
* DE Bobby Greenwood (Alabama)
* LB Bobby Abare (Yale)

San Diego Chargers

* LB Darry Beckwith (LSU)
* OL Ryan McDonald (Illinois)
* WR Charly Martin (West Texas A&M)
* OT Sam Allen (Grand Valley St.)
* OT Dan Guy IV (Baylor)
* LB James Holt (Kansas)
* RB Curtis Brinkley (Syracuse)
* CB Wopamo Asaisai (Stanford)

Oakland Raiders

* LB Frantz Joseph (Florida Atlantic)

Denver Broncos

* DL Everette Pedescleaux (Northern Iowa)
* CB Dominique Johnson (Jackson St)
* WR Lucas Taylor (Tennessee)
* WR Nate Swift (Nebraska)
* DT Chris Baker (Hampton)
* CB Tony Carter (FSU)

AFC NORTH

Pittsburgh Steelers

* LS Mark Estermyer (Pittsburgh)
* OT Ramon Foster (Tennessee)
* S Derrick Richardson (New Mexico St.)
* QB Mike Reilly (Central Washington)

Baltimore Ravens

* QB Drew Willy (Buffalo)
* DT Will Johnson (Michigan)
* OL Greg Ryan (Western Kentucky)
* DE Willie VanDeSteeg (Minnesota)
* K Graham Gano (FSU

Cleveland Browns

* WR Jordan Norwood (Penn St.)
* S Jason Venson (UCF)
* OG Marlon Davis (Alabama)
* DB Corey Boudreaux (SDSU)
* WR Brent Casteel (Utah)
* P Chris Lynch (Albany)

Cincinnati Bengals

* DT TY Steinkuhler (Nebraska)
* DL Dan Skuta (Grand Valley St.)
* FB Chris Pressley (Wisconsin)
* S Tom Nelson (Illinois State)
* RB Marlon Lucky (Nebraska)
* WR Quan Cosby (Texas)
* TE Greg Orton (Purdue)
* C Colin Dow (Montana)

AFC SOUTH

Indianapolis Colts

* DT Pat Kuntz (Notre Dame)
* OT Cornelius Lewis (Tenn St.)
* P Tim Masthay (Kentucky)
* LB Ramon Humbler (NDSU)

Jacksonville Jaguars

* WR Jason English (Tuskegee)
* CB Peter Ittersagen (Wheaton)
* DE Jeremy Navarre (Maryland)
* QB Tyler Lorenzen (Uconn)
* DE Julius Williams (UConn)
* QB Michael Desormeaux (UL)
* RB Kyle Bell (Colorado St.)
* QB Nathan Brown (Central Arkansas)
* DT George Hypolite (Colorado)
* WR Todd Peterson (Nebraska)
* S Kevin Patterson (Wake Forest)
* LB Russel Allen (SDSU)
* FB Brock Bolen (Louisville)
* CB Weldon Brown (La Tech)
* WR Maurice Dupree (Jacksonville St.)
* RB Mike McClendon (North Alabama)
* C Cecil Newton (Tenn St.)
* LB Johnny Williams (Kentucky)

New Orleans Saints

* CB Danny Gorrer (Texas A&M)
* OG Cedric Dockery (Texas)
* WR Chris Vaughn (Louisville)
* LB Jonathan Casillas

Houston Texans

* OT Jason Watkins (Florida)
* DE Tim Jamison (Michigan)
* RB Arian Foster (Tennessee)
* RB Jeremiah Johnson (Oregon)

Tennessee Titans

* WR Dudley Guice (NW State)
* DE Mitch King (Iowa)

NFC EAST

New York Giants

* DE Maurice Evans (Penn State)
* S Otis Wiley (Mich State)
* S Sha’reff Rashad (UCF)

Philadelphia Eagles

* RB Marcus Thigpen (Indiana)
* DL Josh Gaines (Penn State)
* WR Brandon Robinson (Boston College)

Washington Redskins

* QB Chase Daniel (Missouri)
* OT Scott Burley (Maryland)
* DE Derek Walker (Illinois)
* WR Josh Briscoe (Tennessee)
* C Edwin Wiliams (Maryland)
* WR Jaison Williams (Oregon)

Dallas Cowboys

* WR Kevin Ogletree (Virginia)
* WR Julian Hawkins (Boise St)
* QB Graham Harrel (Texas Tech) * Tryout

NFC WEST

Seattle Seahawks

* DE Michael X. Bennett (Texas A&M)
* LB Tony Fein (Mississippi)
* RB Devin Moore (Wyoming)
* LB Dave Philistin (Maryland)
* OT Andre Ramsey (Ball State)
* RB Tyler Roehl (North Dakota State)

San Francisco 49ers

* DE Pannel Egboh (Stanford)
* CB Jahi Word-Daniels (Georgia Tech)
* RB Kory Sheets (Purdue)
* OT Alex Boone (Ohio State)
* CB Carlos Thomas (South Carolina)
* DE Brandon Long (MSU)

Arizona Cardinals

* WR Justin Brown (Hampton)
* DB Michael Ray Garvin (FSU)
* WR Shane Morales (Oregon St.)

St. Louis Rams

* OG Roger Allen (Missouri Western)
* DE Ian Campbell (Kansas State)
* OT Phil Trautwein (Florida)
* SS Mark Rubin (Penn State)
* LB Dominic Douglas (Mississippi State)
* C Daneil Sanders (Colorado)

NFC NORTH

Chicago Bears

* OL Dennis Conley (Hampton)
* WR Eric Peterman (Northwestern)
* S Dahana Deletson (UConn)
* FB Will Taufoou (Cal)
* LB Mike Rivera (Kansas)
* RB Tyrell Fenroy (UL-Lafayette)
* DT Steve Ostrowski (UW-Whitewater)
* TE Vernon Sims (Northern Illinois)

Green Bay Packers

* WR Andy Brodell (Iowa)
* RB Tyrell Sutton (Northwestern)
* WR Kole Heckendorf (North Dakota State)
* TE Carson Butler (Michigan)
* WR Jaron Harris (SDSU)
* WR Jamarko Simmons (Western Michigan)
* OG Dario Nanni (Stillman Valley)
* P Kurt Achter (UW-Oshkosh)

Minnesota Vikings

* S DeVon Hall (Utah State)
* LB Andy Schantz (Portland State)
* WR Vinny Perreta (Boise St.)
* LB Robert Francois (Boston College)
* RB Ian Johnson (Boise St.)
* C Jon Cooper (Oklahoma)
* WR Nick Walker (Alabama)
* OL Andy Kemp (Wisconsin)
* FS Colt Anderson (Montana)

Detroit Lions

* DT John Gill (Northwestern)

NFC SOUTH

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

* OL Rob Bruggeman (Iowa)
* QB Joe Ganz (Nebraska)
* OG Maurice Miller (Mississippi)

Atlanta Falcons

* LB Brock Christopher (Missouri)
* WR Aaron Kelly (Clemson)
* OL Ryan Stanchek (West Virginia)
* QB John Parker Wilson (Alabama)
* WR Darren Mogey (SDSU)
* P Robbie Dehaze (NAU)

Carolina Panthers

* LB Anthony Heygood (Purdue)
* OL Keith Grey (UConn)
* OT Gerald Cadogan (Penn St.)
* LB Brit Miller (Illinois)
* OL CJ Davis (Pitt)
* TE Kevin Brock (Rutgers)
* WR Jason Cherry (UL-Lafayette)
* DT Justin Kershaw (MSU)
* OT Patrick Brown (UCF)

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Denver Broncos

* DL Everette Pedescleaux (Northern Iowa)
* CB Dominique Johnson (Jackson St)
* WR Lucas Taylor (Tennessee)
* WR Nate Swift (Nebraska)
* DT Chris Baker (Hampton)
* CB Tony Carter (FSU)
Also:

WR- Travis Shelton, WR, Temple
OT Stanley Bryant, East Carolina
LB Lee Robinson, Alcorn State
WR David Grimes, Notre Dame
TE Marquez Branson, Central Arkansas
DE Rulon Davis, California
P/K Britton Colquitt, Tennessee
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Ok, now i got a question, and i hope someone can answer it.

I do love football, but know veruy little about some aspects of it, so i was wondering what the heck it means for the team, and the player involved when a team puts the "Franchise tag" on a player.
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In the National Football League, the franchise tag is a designation a team may apply to a player scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent. The tag binds the player to the team for one year if certain conditions are met. Each team has access each year to only one franchise tag (of either the exclusive or non-exclusive forms) or one transition tag. As a result, each team may only designate one player each year as that team's franchise player.
Usually reserved for players of great skill or of high importance to the team, a franchise tag allows a team's manager the privilege of strategically retaining valuable free-agent players while seeking talent through the NFL draft or other acquisitions without exceeding the League's salary cap.
If the designated franchise player elects to play for the team that designated him with the franchise tag, and does not negotiate a contract with another team his one year salary is guaranteed.
If a club withdraws their offered contract the player immediately reverts to an unrestricted free agent.
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Damn, played against 2 kids in HS that signed as undrafted FA's; Chris Pizzotti who signed with the Jets & Bobby Abare who signed with the Chiefs.

Also Ellis Hobbs is not that good so I'm totally fine w/ him leaving. Pats secondary was awful last year so I'm fine with a little bit of an overhaul. All this talk about him returning kicks but he got so many opportunities because he stayed getting burnt for touchdowns.
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To Hobbs' credit though, he always played hurt and his toughness really can't be questioned. It's not really his fault he was thrust into the role of #1 corner last year, which he definitely isn't. He was the #2 corner for an entire season on a team that was one TD drive away from going 19-0, so you gotta take that into consideration
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No, you don't Jesus. This dude was the number two corner in an aging secondary who had a top 10 front seven in front of him. He also had a record setting Quarterback AND Receiver who consistently put up 28 points in a year when they were one TD Drive away from going 19-0.

For that matter, who gave up that one touchdown???

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Thanks for the Franchise tag explaination
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No, you don't Jesus. This dude was the number two corner in an aging secondary who had a top 10 front seven in front of him. He also had a record setting Quarterback AND Receiver who consistently put up 28 points in a year when they were one TD Drive away from going 19-0.

For that matter, who gave up that one touchdown???

Damn.
I'm fairly certain Asante Samuel was covering Burress and Samuel slipped on the play when Burress caught the game winner.
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Nah it was definitely Ellis Hobbs.

Mr. Get Paid himself Asanute Samuel could have ended the game earlier though when Eli threw him the ball but he decided to drop it
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Exactly, that late in the game, they were in a zone blitz. Hobbs was supposed to cover that third of the field. He choked, he slipped.
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Hobbs jumped the slant, like you should in the end zone
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Exactly, that late in the game, they were in a zone blitz. Hobbs was supposed to cover that third of the field. He choked, he slipped.
I don't think ya can kill the guy over slipping. Shit happens.

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I used to have a DVD quality video of Superbowl 42 but now when I try to play it all I get is sound.

I just found this out, what the fuck? Grr
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In a cover 3, it is his responsibility to handle the deepest threat in his third of the field. The slant isn't his responsibility. Plaxico was. If I'm not mistaken Burress didn't catch a 5 yard strike, it was a 25 yard stirke. You give up the short stuff to prevent the touchdown bombs.


I reiterate, he choked, blew the coverage, and he slipped trying to make up for his fuck up. Poor discipline to not trust the Linebackers.
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Selvin Young wasnt all that bad when he wasnt injuring himself everytime he got on the field.
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Won't miss him, had good speed but fuck, was injured often and it didn't take much at all to get him down.
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