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#6841 |
Hey Mister!
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O'Reilly by himself isn't anything special, but as part of a reunited Undisputed Era, he definitely has value.
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#6842 |
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I think he’s probably more valuable in AEW to them as part of that act than he is in NXT on his own. He’s the one I most expect to jump. He’s a bigger value add to AEW than he is WWE, plus they’ll probably offer him more money.
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#6843 |
It's a blood match!
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Gargano and O'Reilly to AEW, add in Keith Lee and maybe Killer Kross and his sexy wife, it all makes sense. AEW could have the roster they could've had from the beginning essentially the best of PWG and ROH from across the years.
They just need to separate with a good chunk of talent they have so they don't have a massive roster that never has enough time. |
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#6844 |
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How about a husband and wives division? They could even create a new title for it — the TruTV Title.
* Miro & CJ * Keith Lee & Mia Yim * Killer Kross & Scarlett * John Hennigan & Taya Valkyrie * Adam Cole & Britt Baker * Cody & Brandi Rhodes * Kip Sabian & Penelope Ford * Matthew & Athena Palmer |
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#6845 |
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AEW does not need Gargano. He got over as part of a natural, rise to prominence alongside Ciampa that happened organically and felt very special. Everything after that failed to match the quality of storytelling in that initial run.
Yes, he's a very good hand, but so are a lot of guys in AEW. He doesn't bring anything to the table that they don't already have. |
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#6846 |
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If I am Gargano I dont know if im leaving. He is NXT, and I dont think he would ever get any higher than low midcard in AEW. At least in NXT he always has that lore of the heart of NXT. NXT can go younger but they will always need vets in the player/coach role, and he is over as can be with that audience.
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#6847 |
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LOL come on, a QT Marshall exhibit??? At some point Shad has to say "No, I am not giving you money for THAT Tony". |
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#6848 |
Trickster Demon
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Yeah, I agree with you xrod. Planet Hollywood must be really hard up from the pandemic if QT is where things are at now.
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#6849 |
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What the fuck does QT Marshall have to do with Hollywood in the first place.
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#6850 |
President of Freedonia
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Gargano vs. Danielson always felt like a natural program that would've eventually happened in the E
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#6851 |
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Gargano is a guy that I see staying in the WWE, because he’s got that player/coach value there and seems really embedded. And his wife is there. But if he did leave, regardless of whether AEW needs him, they would sign him. And it wouldn’t be a “bad” signing. Taking the Heart and Soul of NXT is something. It’s how you use him.
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#6852 |
Trickster Demon
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I'm not sure Gargano is leaving WWE tbh. I think KOR is, but I'm not sure about Gargano. He might just be taking paternity leave and disappear for a while.
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#6854 |
It's a blood match!
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He's a huge celebrity now that he's a star of TNT's highest rated show. QT would get over in any generation, he's timeless and now Hollywood has taken note.
I can imagine a QT bio series like The Wonder Years and even a reality TV show like Rhodes to the Top, you could call it QT Pie and give it a baking spin. Lots of spin going around about QT'S contract coming up and the bidding war between AEW, WWE and Hollywood. Gonna be a fun ride boys! |
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#6855 |
President of Freedonia
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Remember when Allie wanted to jump QT's bones? We should all strive to be more like QT.
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#6857 |
Trickster Demon
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I kind of forgot about Lance Archer and Jake Roberts in AEW.
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#6858 |
Skibbidy Lock Jaw
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Lance Archer is like if you pushed Konnor of The Ascension as a serious solo act
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#6859 |
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Lol What an odd comparison.
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#6860 |
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I heard Kyle O’Reily talk on nxt 2.0 for about 30 seconds and realized he’s just a big dork and decided I don’t want him on my TV. It doesn’t help that I view him as a wish app Bryan Danielson with the complete opposite amount of charisma. I don’t want him in AEW. Gargano I feel the same. They have a lot of guys like him already. Keith Lee is the big name they should go outta their way for. He’s unique, he’s charismatic and he is bigger than a lot of their guys which helps add variety to their roster.
Owens/Steen seems like a lock. They should absolutely sign him. He’d be a great promo and he works as the bully heel or anti authority babyface. He’d be a good foil/rival for the elite. |
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#6862 |
Skibbidy Lock Jaw
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A big dork, you say? Seems like he'd be a great fit for AEW!
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#6864 |
Skibbidy Lock Jaw
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My general "chillness"
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#6865 |
President of Freedonia
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Lock Jaw's stream of consciousness thoughts are entertaining
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#6866 |
President of Freedonia
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Also helps that he's actually watching the show he is critiquing
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#6867 |
Shelly Martinez = Ratings
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Lock Jaw also isn't a dick about it. Just nonchalantly says "hey this isn't great" as he's watching the show.
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#6868 | |
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![]() All joking aside, I will break it down. My problem with AEW is not the product, its all the stupid shit people from their rosters say outside of the the time they are on TV. My problem is their owner being a whining spoiled child who acts 12 when he is 40. They ruin what would be a more enjoyable product by being such dislikable people the rest of the week. |
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Anyone can do that annoying shit. It’s a dishonest, sneaky and cunty way of trying to control discourse. |
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These same posters were pro-WWE a few years ago. Most people with common sense were criticising them. Now it’s okay to point and laugh at WWE. But it’s not okay to do that with AEW.
They’ve got a shiny new toy. They can’t actually respond to criticism, and it infringes on how they identify with something they are preoccupied with for the moment. When AEW fades and something else takes that spot (established or not right now), “LolAEW” will become a meme and the new thing will be protected by “How about if you don’t like it, you don’t watch?” as well as mocking people for not watching and calling people dicks, cocksuckers and all sorts of names for not falling into line and scaffolding the new fad. We’re probably only about a year away from the change. I’ll be shocked if it doesn’t happen by 2024. |
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#6871 |
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Love how there is apparently no variance in how criticism is received, only how it is delivered. Lol, fuck off with that gaslighting shit.
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Lock Jaw doesn’t shit on, insult, talk in circles and aimlessly troll those who like AEW. He just shared his thoughts. Sometimes he likes stuff. Sometimes he doesn’t. Not liking AEW isn’t noids problem.
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#6874 |
Shelly Martinez = Ratings
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Think someone said it already but I'd really like to see Keith Lee in AEW. If nothing else, he'd bring a different look than most of the roster. Plus I want to see him actually get a chance to do stuff on TV.
EDIT: It was Damian Rey up there. Great minds and all that. |
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#6875 | |
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You are the exact reason I dumbed everything down to simple memes last year, because it was the best option to try and make you understand. Sadly, even that was too complex for you to grasp. Also FYI, you quoted three posts, not two you turd. |
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#6876 |
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2. Criticism in culture is valid. 3. The propagation of bad media can actually hurt. It’s debatable to what extent AEW is hurting wrestling, but it is actually debatable that it is, so that whole point can get fucked. It’s solipsistic to think that just because you enjoy something it is actually beneficial. 4. I’m glad we can all agree that screech is a jack-ass. |
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PS. People started shitting on xrod because of his entertaining criticisms of the product and not because he shat on people. Stop with this narrative that he’s the one attacking people, lol.
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#6879 |
Trickster Demon
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#6880 | |
Taller than Adam Cole
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And I make fun of stupid shit in AEW because it comes off stupid. I make fun of stupid shit in WWE because it's stupid. But some of the stupid shit in WWE isn't as stupid as people think it is. Some of it is literally "Smart Mark getting worked, and don't want to admit it." Some of it is "We don't know what words means." Some of it is "We are expecting them to play checkers like us, but actually, they're playing chess. And we're not even playing checkers. We're playing Sorry!" The vast(ardikai?) majority comes down to this: "We are basing our enjoyment of this product on the thoughts of one man who doesn't look at the big picture." |
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