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Old 08-15-2005, 01:46 PM   #681
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who is Supermarket Sweep, that is the best team name
That would be Trap.

2nd will do for me at the minute.
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Old 08-15-2005, 02:09 PM   #683
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who is Supermarket Sweep, that is the best team name
That is young Trap's team.

Good team name, but you're still bottom, aint ya, Trap?

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-edit- fucks sake Wengerbus
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I love Crespo, what a fucking goal, sure did brighten up the journey home afterwards. Gotta feel sorry for Wigan, their fan were pretty good for part of the second half, they starts singing "Whats it like to be outclassed' and 'Who needs Mourinho, we've got Paul Jewellio". Then they started singing "here to see Wigan" to us so we replied with "here for one season" to them .

In the pre-match entertainment they had these four people walk round the ground singing pop songs, and they sung Made in the USSR when they got in front of the Chelsea fans.

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MMM - Camara skinned Terry, how many people have you seen do that?

Owen - De Zeeuw was quality , I regret nothing though, he was shit for you lot.
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I'm just happy my forward line in The Sun Fantasy Football is Crespo, Henry and Bent (I left Crespo for Shearer on our one).
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What was the boro V Liverpool score?I still don't even know all the scores because i was out on saturday afternoon/night and slept most of sunday.
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0-0. Ehgiou got a red card though.
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Ah, here we go.

Fantasy football rankings Week 1

1 Team Carradonna 55
2 Leicester McCity 53
3 diocentri City 50
4 I hate Mackem FC 49
5 Inter Milan Mandaric 48
6 Ogentbh 46
7 Chapman_FC 43
7 Hells Satans 43
9 Bollock Burgers 42
9 Wolves 42
11 Hellraisers 41
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14 SupermarketSweep 32
i'll probably be near the relegation zone now, only the first week though.I ain't making another transfer unless i get an injury.
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0-0. Ehgiou got a red card though.

This new rule about tackling is fucking stupid.How can Campo's tackle not be a red card when he clearly didn't get the ball but Jenas got sent off when he clearly got the ball? I wish they would stop changing the rules, the amount of red cards in the first week is not surprising considering they changed it, especially when they only changed it about a week ago i heard.
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WHAT!!>?!?@?@:? Why wasnt I invited to the league.
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OK me and TL were discussing this in a topic that was pretty offtopic, so I'm bringing it here. Here was the last reply

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Nah it would totally destroy the structure of the game in this country and people would lose interest in football if every team was in one league, there is already too many games anyway so that would be impossible considering the demands of the fitness levels on the players. Would you change something that has worked for over a 100 years?

But yes there are only 4 teams that can realistically win the league, but that's the way its always been. And it makes the teams more competitive when it comes to the European cups.When people say there were times when anyone could win the league, they're talking rubbish. I hope someone who thinks that can tell me exactly when that time was because i sure as hell can't think of when it was.

Btw i just noticed how totally off-topic we are. Maybe we should continue this in pm or the sports forum?
I guess you are right but I don't see how it is working. There are tons of teams, yet only 4 can win.

Well what I don't get, is if only 4 teams have a chance, then what hapens to the other 34982947 teams? No doubt nobodys going to want to see a team who has no chance of "winning it all". Wouldn't they lose fan support, lose money, and if you're losing money what is the point of even having the team? It makes no sense.
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OK me and TL were discussing this in a topic that was pretty offtopic, so I'm bringing it here. Here was the last reply



I guess you are right but I don't see how it is working. There are tons of teams, yet only 4 can win.

Well what I don't get, is if only 4 teams have a chance, then what hapens to the other 34982947 teams? No doubt nobodys going to want to see a team who has no chance of "winning it all". Wouldn't they lose fan support, lose money, and if you're losing money what is the point of even having the team? It makes no sense.

Well what i didn't mention before was that, the top four teams get a place in the Champions League, the 4th spot is usually the one that mid/lower-table teams are after, everton finished 17th(one place above the relegation zone)the season before last and finished 4th last season, so if they qualify into the CL they will get about £30m or something i think, depending on how far they get that will determine how much of that money they will get.

Just incase i didn't make that bit clear btw the 3rd and 4th place teams have to play one match to qualify for the CL.

Then the 5th and 6th place teams qualify for the UEFA cup which is another european cup, only lower in status/money but it's good enough for the mid/lower table teams.

Obviously teams will lose money, but they do get a certain amount, but if you don't finish high enough you don't deserve the same amount of money as the champions do you?As for support, usually if teams go down they lose SOME support naturally, but most premiership teams sell out week in/week out.There are some well supported teams in the lower leagues, even non league football gets appreciation.I support Hendon who play in the Ryman Premier league for example. I also support newcastle in the premiership even though we havent won anything for about 50 years, and i still would even if we got relegated.
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With all due respect to NF, do you think you are seriously going to convince any American sports fan our league system is better (even though it totally is)?
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Also, its about building your squad up, the depressing thing at the moment is that Chelsea have a Russian billionaire who brought thme a couple of seasons ago, and they can spend as much money as they want and surprise surprise they won the prmeiership last year aswell as the league cup, it wont last though because everything falls eventually.

There are also other competitions for lower league clubs which i didn't mention, and they can get money from fa cup/league runs to, there's always a few shocks in the cups when lower league teams somehow beat the premiership teams, but i ain't hiding from the fact that there are deginately some teams struggling for survival, some have even collapsed.Most are insecure though.Ther eisn't really anything you can do about it, it's mainly due to ITV fucking up football finances in this country.They stupidly splashed out loads of money on the leagues below the prmeiership and though everyone would buy there new digital thing like sky have to see it, the clubs spent the money before they even ahd it and that's mainly why they're insecure financially.
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right right right

I just can't imagine gonig into a season knowing no matter how good you play their is nothing you can do to "win it all"
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With all due respect to NF, do you think you are seriously going to convince any American sports fan our league system is better (even though it totally is)?

I'm not trying to say it's better, i'm just explaining how it works.
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No of course not, nothing you say can make me think soccer is better than football, nothing I say can make you think football is better than soccer ect.

I was just confused to how it all worked and it kinda went on from there
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With all due respect to NF, do you think you are seriously going to convince any American sports fan our league system is better (even though it totally is)?

I'm not trying to say it's better, i'm just explaining how it works.(but i agree, it is better )
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Alright, thats enough schooling for me for now, thanks
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right right right

I just can't imagine gonig into a season knowing no matter how good you play their is nothing you can do to "win it all"
Well, that's just the way it is, you set realistic targets for yourself.Infact, increasing the number of teams into one league would be even worse because then the rich teams would cope better with there larger squads.Also, how would you fit that many game sinto a year?It's simply not possible.I think the difference is you guys support states while we support clubs, thats a big difference.
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Alright, thats enough schooling for me for now, thanks

Had to throw in one more reply there.
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ehh thats not completely true, when the Colts moved from Baltimore to Indianapolis, Oilers (now Titans) moved from Houston to Tennesse (Nashville) ect. a lot of fans followed. But for the most part you hardly hardly hardly ever see anybody on the East Coast who are Minnesota Vikings fans.

But if the Jets moved to like Oregon or something I would prolly still "support" them. Hard to say.

But you bring up a good point
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ehh thats not completely true, when the Colts moved from Baltimore to Indianapolis, Oilers (now Titans) moved from Houston to Tennesse (Nashville) ect. a lot of fans followed. But for the most part you hardly hardly hardly ever see anybody on the East Coast who are Minnesota Vikings fans.

But if the Jets moved to like Oregon or something I would prolly still "support" them. Hard to say.

But you bring up a good point

What i meant about the clubs/states thing was that there are less states than clubs, a club can be set up really easily in the tiniest place possible, yet a state is one big place.Therefore that allows us to have more clubs.But yeah the thing you brought up is also true.
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There are still some states without NFL teams. The owners just generally go where they think they can get the highest revenues, hence more teams on the coasts (2 for NY, 3 in Florida, 3 in California)

But yeah, America = 250m population, 32 teams

England (and Wales I guess) = 60m population, 92 professional teams. And then there's the conference, and the conference feeder clubs, and then the ones below them...etc.
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MMM - Camara skinned Terry, how many people have you seen do that?
I'm sure that will do wonders for their goal difference. Maybe they should add a new stat as to how many times someone gets skinned and use it as a tiebreaker if goal difference is level. Or how about instead of penalty shootouts we have skinning competitions to determine finals.

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NF, I support one of those teams that has no chance of winning the league so maybe I can help a bit.

Two seasons ago we got promoted to the Premiership from Division 1 and in our first season our main target was to just stay up for another season. By staying up, for us it was nearly as good as winning the league was for Arsenal that season.

Its all about expectations. Arsenal, Man U and Chelsea have lots of money so their fans expect them to win the league. My team was new to the league so we expected to stay up, we achieved that and we were very happy with our season, even though we finished no where near the top and lost a lot of games.

The 20 clubs in the Premiership are given a lot of money from Sky TV for their TV rights. This revenue is A LOT more than the leagues below the Premiership get, so just by being in the premiership, even if you finish 17th every season (the lowest you can finish without being relegated) you make a lot of money.

After staying up a few times, this money can be revinvested and the squad can be improved slowly and you can start to aim slightly higher. Instead of just staying up, maybe push for a UEFA cup spot, then a Champions League spot etc.

Almost every town and city in the country has atleast one team and the shit ones (like my team ) tend to rely more on the support of local people and fans from the city and surrounding area. Where as the big, successful teams like Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal that have a chance of winning the league often have supporters that have never been to a game and live hundreds of miles away (not all of them, they do have a lot of local supporters too) and they get labled "glory supporters" who only support the team because they're big and successful.

So yes, the more succesful you are, the more fans you have but even the shittiest, smallest clubs have a few supporters just because they live locally.
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I'm sure that will do wonders for their goal difference. Maybe they should add a new stat as to how many times someone gets skinned and use it as a tiebreaker if goal difference is level. Or how about instead of penalty shootouts we have skinning competitions to determine finals.

You nob.
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Arsenal that have a chance of winning the league often have supporters that have never been to a game and live hundreds of miles away (not all of them, they do have a lot of local supporters too) and they get labled "glory supporters" who only support the team because they're big and successful.
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well i more meant people from this country.

It makes sense for foreigners to support the bigger teams because i'd guess they get more TV coverage in Australia and the like. There would be no point in you supporting Fulham if you never ever got to see them play cos Man U and Arsenal were on TV all the time.
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Or how about instead of penalty shootouts we have skinning competitions to determine finals.
That would be pretty good.
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The Yak skinned John Terry at the Bridge last season and then dragged his shot wide.

Needless to say we lost 3-0. de Zeeuw had a virus and so was on the bench, had he been fit it may well have been a different story.
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John Terry gets skinned by fast players all the time. He's just lucky he has a fast black athlete in William Gallas to sort him out, and a beast of a goalkeeper in Petr Cech.
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That would be pretty good.
I can see it now, World Cup Quarter Final, England vs Senegal (much like Italia 90 really), goes to a skinning competition. Camara tears John Terry a new one. Beckham, as captain and Eriksson's occasional butt-boy, insists on going first.

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