MLB 2005-2006 Offseason Thread - Page 18

**Joey Slugs** · 12-08-2005, 05:40 PM

@ the brewers taking back Kolb

@ the white sox finally dumping Marte

**The Miz** · 12-08-2005, 05:42 PM

I guess if your starting rotation is

1. Erik Bedard
2. Rodrigo Lopez
3. Eric DuBose
4. Bruce Chen
5. John Maine

...it's probably a good idea to spend $30 million on a catcher, a position you currently have filled with a 40 homer guy.

**VonErich Lives** · 12-08-2005, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Miz

EoE basically said what I was going to say, it could have been a one time thing. What the Red Sox should do is investigate, find out exactly what happened, if Lugo has a history of this, etc. The Red Sox have the ability to dig deeper into this. You and I don't, VEL. I agree that if a psycho wifebeater puts up .800 OPS and 40 steals, I don't want him on my team. If the Red Sox find out this was a one time thing and Lugo has changed his ways and will be fine, then give the guy a second chance.

That makes sense. I'd deffintly agree they have to do some very good research before making a move.

That being said, everything I hear that deal is dead. the Sox are looking into signing a SS (Clayton, Gonzalez, Reese).

The more the Manny thing goes on, screw'em. It's not like he doesn't like the fans or the city or he "has no freedom", it's his Wife who said "we have to move to get you away from your mistress".

Well, you know what, that's his problem not the teams fault, they paid him and if they can't find a good deal there is no reason to dump him for little/nothing.

**VonErich Lives** · 12-08-2005, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Miz

...including Mike Myers to the Yankees

yeah, heard that earlier... not happy... he was our Matsui killer but the sox didn't offer him arbitration, the reason I've heard if they feel D'Nardo's submarine pitch is as good as a lefty specialist...

Watch, Myers will be brought in to face Ortiz every time the meet.

**The Miz** · 12-08-2005, 05:51 PM

Most likely they'll get Gonzalez, Reese to too much of a risk. ESPN reported that The Red Sox asked LAAA about Macier Izturis and were declined

**The Miz** · 12-08-2005, 05:53 PM

FOXsports.com says The Tigers are close to signing Kenny Rogers to a two-year deal worth about $16 million.

12-08-2005, 05:59 PM

lol @ tigers. This guy is notorius for fading down the stretch.

**Evil Vito** · 12-08-2005, 08:48 PM

FOXsports says that Julio Franco is close to signing on with the Mets for 2 years.

I like the signing of Franco, but 2 years for a 47-year old?

**VonErich Lives** · 12-08-2005, 09:40 PM

Gammons also seems to think or "know" that Theo Epstien still has some input and might be back with the Red Sox.

I like Gammons a lot, I don't think there is anyone with more knowledge and better connections, but it seems the last few years he's turned into the scenial uncle...

He's flipped out on simple questions on the radio and it also seems every year he blows one very big story, like when he said the Red Sox would have A-rod signed in 24hrs...

Who knows, it was strange... they asked him about Theo, he kinda paused and almost backtracked like he leaked something he didn't want to.

**The Miz** · 12-08-2005, 09:42 PM

Mueller has signed with LA Dodgers

**CNM** · 12-08-2005, 09:50 PM

Apparently Miguel Tejada wants out of Baltimore

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5151318

**YOUR Hero** · 12-08-2005, 09:55 PM

The Jays better not get rid of Hudson for Wilkerson.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 12-08-2005, 11:00 PM

Nomar is playing shortstop for the Red Sox next season

**YOUR Hero** · 12-08-2005, 11:09 PM

Would Boston fans want him back?

**The Miz** · 12-08-2005, 11:10 PM

I know VEL would

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 12-08-2005, 11:33 PM

I would

I know it won't happen but I wish it would. I think most Boston fans would want him or back or if he did come back a lot of people would happy. The only reason I could see some being unhappy is because of recent stint of injuries, but in regards to off the field stuff I can't really see people being upset about that.

I actaully got Lugo in MVP Baseball on PS2 so that is kind of weird if he does end up on the Sox in real life haha. I am just glad Renteria is gone, i'd love to see Caberia back since I know Nomar isn't going to be back haha

12-09-2005, 12:17 AM

ya i'd be pretty pissed at the jays trading hudson for anything

**Boomer** · 12-09-2005, 01:40 AM

Chipper Jones was never great in the outfield. That's where he started getting injured from all the running.

**The Outlaw** · 12-09-2005, 01:57 AM

The question is would Nomar want back in Boston?

**BCWWF** · 12-09-2005, 02:11 AM

ESPN is reporting that Tejada wants out of Baltimore now, so I think that this pretty much solves the Red Sox shortstop quandry.

Unfortunately.

**VonErich Lives** · 12-09-2005, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BCWWF

ESPN is reporting that Tejada wants out of Baltimore now, so I think that this pretty much solves the Red Sox shortstop quandry.

Unfortunately.

Yeah, I'm earing Tejada for Manny type deal... I just wonder how much of Mannys contracts the sox would eat, and would Manny be willing to go there... he wasnted Clevland, Seattle, Arizona or LAA.

**VonErich Lives** · 12-09-2005, 05:32 AM

Ok... on Nommmmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Do the fans want him back? some do, some don't, after he lefts a lot of players said he was miserable to have in the club house.

From a baseball standpoint, while he does swing at the first pitch every single time which drives most people nuts, he was a good player who worked his ass off. to see him come in for short money as a 1yr "let's take a chance" is fine with me if he's fixed his attitude.

If the Sox didn't deal him, they probably wouldn't have won the WS (no Dave Roberts, no Stolen base, etc..)

That being said, Stima, wanna make a bet?

1) from what I've heard there is a ton of bad feelings between Nomar and Luccino.

2) Have you notice about the teams talking to him? It's about 2nd base, or backup/utility, I think the Dodgers even asked him about centerfield. There's a reason, no one things he can play SS anymore, the injuries he's had the last few years most likely did a number on his mobility, and relying on him to be able to move/cut/turn like you need to at SS is asking to get him injured.

Of course there is still the "roid" question, based on the body he had, the injuries, it's possible he was on it... honestly, I'd tend to think he wasn't, because he was a gym rat, he spent the offseasons in I think Arizona with a trainer... but who knows.

So yeah, if he lost the attitude and wants to be a utility player for short money, I'd be more then happy to have him back, but I wouldn't want him as the full time Short Stop, part of the same reason as much as I like Pokey Reese, he's never made it through a season healthy...

RP · 12-09-2005, 05:53 AM

When baseball players say " This situation isnt going in the direction i'd prefer and i wanna trade ". Are the essentially saying they wanna be traded to New York or Boston?

RP · 12-09-2005, 05:57 AM

There should just be the Yankees and teh Red Socks and thats it. Seriously. Does anyone remember the White Sox, Angels, Diamondbacks, or Marlins World Series victorys? Does anyone care? Once the season is over. It doesnt matter if you are defending champion. What really matters is who's gunna be the next center fielder for the Yankees.

Baseball seriously is a joke of a league.

**Adder** · 12-09-2005, 11:31 AM

Nomar can be had for 'cheap' I don't see why every team wouldn't try to land him. If he busts, it's not an expensive experiment.

If Toronto moves Hudson, they have enough players to fill that infield void. So I understand why they'd consider it, doesn't mean I like it though.

**Joey Slugs** · 12-09-2005, 12:50 PM

Friday, December 9
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Frank Thomas White Sox	Athletics? Twins? Angels?	Oakland Big Hurt-ing? Dec 9 - The A's are expected to sign right-handed slugger Frank Thomas, reports ESPN's Peter Gammons. Oakland won't formally offer him a contract until after Dec. 7 -- the deadline for teams to offer their own free agents salary arbitration. According to The Baltimore Sun, the Orioles are considering offering Thomas a one-year, incentive-laden deal. The Twins say they'll review Thomas' medical records before continuing negotiations, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reports.

**McDoogle** · 12-09-2005, 01:00 PM

Frank Thomas not being a White Sox player is just too weird a concept.

**Joey Slugs** · 12-09-2005, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by McDoogle

Frank Thomas not being a White Sox player is just too weird a concept.

Tell me about it. Goes along the same line as Joe Montana playing for the Chiefs or Jerry Rice being cut by the Broncos. Shit like that just shouldn't happen.

**Joey Slugs** · 12-09-2005, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

There should just be the Yankees and teh Red Socks and thats it. Seriously. Does anyone remember the White Sox, Angels, Diamondbacks, or Marlins World Series victorys?

Maybe not on the east coast but, when it comes to the White Sox run this past season, the fans will not be forgetting anytime soon (just as they won't forget in Boston about 2004). The difference between the Sox winning and, let's say, the D-Backs & the Marlins is that 20 years ago.... those two teams didn't exist. They don't have the history of the Sox (that being they are one of the original AL teams).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

Once the season is over. It doesnt matter if you are defending champion. What really matters is who's gunna be the next center fielder for the Yankees.

I have 3 words about that comment: FUCK THE YANKEES.

That is all.

**BCWWF** · 12-09-2005, 02:02 PM

Dunno, I think Frank Thomas and the A's could be a good fit

**VonErich Lives** · 12-09-2005, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

When baseball players say " This situation isnt going in the direction i'd prefer and i wanna trade ". Are the essentially saying they wanna be traded to New York or Boston?

I don't think so, it depends though on the player and the situation.

In the case of Tejada, Baltimore made promises when he got there, and never did anything, ok, you could argue Sosa, but anyone with 1/2 a brain new Sosa was gonna be a bust at this point (off the roids).

It just seemed like a good time for him to mention this, the Red Sox have a hole at SS and can afford him and he's good friends with Ortiz.

I'd be ok with a Manny + Cash for Tejada, but I don't see it happening.

I think if Baltimore does trade Tejada, they're going to want 2-3 top prospects, not another big contract, plus the history of some of their big contract busts scares them.

Now, do the Red Sox try and package Lester, Marte and maybe Pedoria or Delcarman? Then try and move Manny (and cash) for some prospects?

Not sure what the Yankees gave for prospects... but wouldn't it be funny if they get Tejada to play 2B, if that happens they should get Nomar to play 1st!

**Evil Vito** · 12-09-2005, 03:13 PM

No way Tejada is playing anything other than SS.

Ordinarily I'd want the Mets to make a go for Tejada, but I'd rather not deplete the farm system even more and have to shift Reyes over to 2B again. Pitching is the main concern at this point.

**DaveWadding** · 12-09-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder

Seriously. Does anyone remember the Diamondbacks World Series victory?

**VonErich Lives** · 12-09-2005, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22

No way Tejada is playing anything other than SS.

They said that about A-rod, they said that about Nomar, anything is possible.

I tend to think if the Yankees said, you can be on a WS contender, get your pay, but you need to play 2B, he'd be ok with it.

Although, it would be funny that you'd have 3 natural SS on the Yankees and the worst fielder of the 3 is the one actually playing short.

**The Miz** · 12-10-2005, 12:00 PM

Ramirez for Tejada has been offered by Boston

**VonErich Lives** · 12-10-2005, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Miz

Ramirez for Tejada has been offered by Boston

Yeah, no suprise there... I'd be shocked if Baltimore took it through.

Don't see them wanting the payroll, I'd think they'd go after prospects rather then someone with Manny's contract...

That being said, if they pull this off, I'll be a VERY happy Sox fan!

**YOUR Hero** · 12-10-2005, 01:19 PM

Why would Baltimore do that deal. They'd be helping the opponent too much. The Orioles should be re-affirming themselves towards Tejeda if they're not already doing that. I doubt the O's would make that deal. WHO KNOWS THOUGH.

**Joey Slugs** · 12-10-2005, 01:57 PM

Friday, December 9
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Matt Morris Cardinals	Angels? Cardinals Giants Mariners? Dodgers? Rangers	Spirit of St. Louis? Dec 9 - The Cardinals hope to re-sign Matt Morris and are prepared to make him a three-year offer, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports. Morris, who has 101 wins in nine major league seasons spent entirely with the Redbirds, has drawn interest from many teams, including the Giants, Rangers and Mariners. The Giants reportedly have offered Morris a two-year deal worth at least $16 million and are considering restructuring the deal to accommodate a demand for a third year. The Fort Worth Star-Telegram says the Rangers have pitched a three-year, $25 million offer.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Javy Lopez Orioles	Angels?	Javy on the block? Dec 9 - With free-agent catcher Ramon Hernandez headed to Baltimore, a couple of teams have called the Orioles about the availability of Javy Lopez, the Baltimore Sun reports. The O's and Angels discussed a trade that would send Lopez to the West Coast for center fielder/first baseman Darin Erstad. The talks were serious at one point, but have cooled. Erstad, 31, and Lopez, 35, are both in their final year of deals and will make approximately $8.5 million this season. Orioles officials would prefer keeping Lopez, because they feel he will have a good offensive year, shifting as a designated hitter, catcher and first baseman. But they also realize he is one of their few valuable trade chips.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Braden Looper Mets	Orioles? Phillies	Phil 'er up? Dec 9 - According to the Philadelphia Daily News, the Phillies remain in negotiations with the Hendricks brothers, who represent Braden Looper. Alan Hendricks said that Looper, the Mets' closer last season, was being courted by as many as a dozen teams. In the inflated current market, Looper likely is looking for something approaching the two-year, $6.75 million contract he signed when he left the Marlins for the Mets after the 2003 season. "Money is part of it," Alan Hendricks told the newspaper. "Opportunity is part of it. The Phillies are seriously under consideration. We have a lot of choices. I have to talk to Braden and sort through his options."
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Miguel Tejada Orioles	Red Sox?	Tejada wants out of Baltimore Dec 9 - Miguel Tejada is unhappy with the direction of the Orioles' franchise and wants to play elsewhere next season, the Baltimore Sun reports. In a telephone interview with the Associated Press in his native Dominican Republic, the All-Star shortstop lamented the franchise's lack of progress and called for a "change of scenery." "I've been with the Orioles for two years and things haven't gone in the direction that we were expecting, so I think the best thing will be a change of scenery," said Tejada. "I've done many things with the team and I haven't seen results and the other teams are getting stronger while the Orioles have not made any signings to strengthen the club." Tejada's declaration surprised Orioles executive vice president Mike Flanagan, who said earlier this week that the club talked to Tejada a couple of times to ask for input, and he was "on board with what we're doing."
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Los Angeles		Holes to fill Dec 9 - According to the Los Angeles Times, GM Ned Colletti is still in pursuit of critical upgrades in several areas -- including at third base, outfield and starting pitching. Colletti believes he could add a starting pitcher through free agency, acquire the position players through trades and hold most or all of the prospects nearing major-league readiness. He met Thursday morning with Scott Boras, the agent for Jeff Weaver, Kevin Millwood and Jarrod Washburn, and had "two or three teams" with whom he believed a trade was possible.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Kevin Millwood Indians	Dodgers? Mariners	Bye-bye, Cleveland Dec 9 - Re-signing Kevin Millwood is a longshot for the Indians. "At this point," said GM Mark Shapiro, "the chances of Kevin Millwood being back with us next year are very remote, if not almost impossible." Millwood is seeking a five-year deal comparable to the $55 million package A.J. Burnett got from the Blue Jays -- too rich for the Indians, who still need to add another starter, reliever and right-handed power hitter. Reports that Seattle has offered a four-year contract to Millwood have been greatly exaggerated, according to an official of one club that has talked with the Mariners. The official, ESPN.com's Jayson Stark reports, said his understanding was that the Mariners hadn't offered four years and may not have made any formal offer to Millwood. But according to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, the Mariners offered Millwood a four-year deal believed to be worth about $44 million.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Nomar Garciaparra Cubs	Blue Jays? Yankees? Padres? Dodgers? Orioles Indians?	Tribal connection? Dec 9 - Cleveland is interested in signing Nomar Garciaparra. The Indians envision him in a utility role, or the club could move him into right field and use Casey Blake as a part-time first baseman, third baseman or outfielder. According to The Cleveland Plain Dealer, if Garciaparra signs with the Indians, they'll give him a regular position. "Asking a guy to change positions is tough," manager Eric Wedge told the newspaper. "We'd keep Nomar in one spot." The 32-year-old Garciaparra has made it known he's willing to play any position but pitcher and catcher.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Roger Clemens Astros	Yankees? Red Sox?	Full circle? Dec 9 - If Roger Clemens decides to continue playing, he could land with the Red Sox, The New York Times reports. Clemens played his first 13 years for Boston, and Josh Beckett and Curt Schilling would love to have the Rocket. Beckett, a Texan, has always idolized Clemens, and Schilling credits Clemens with inspiring his career. The Astros cut Clemens loose by not offering him salary arbitration. He could still return to Houston, but would have to wait until May 1.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Jeff Conine Marlins	Orioles	Baltimore revisited? Dec 9 - Jeff Conine is close to returning to Baltimore, the Baltimore Sun reports. The Orioles and Conine's agent, Michael Watkins, met late Wednesday and discussed "several options." Watkins would not confirm specifics, but one source familiar with the negotiations said the two are nearing a one-year deal "in the neighborhood of $1.5 million." Watkins expects the negotiations to intensify next week. He said two other clubs have expressed interest in Conine, who spent parts of five seasons with the Orioles before being traded to the Marlins in August 2003. Florida didn't offer him arbitration, practically guaranteeing that he would not return to Miami. "Ultimately, it is up to Jeff and [his wife] Cindy, but I will tell you Jeff loves Baltimore," Watkins told the newspaper. Conine, 39, hit .304 with three homers and 33 RBI in 335 at-bats as a platoon outfielder and occasional first baseman last season.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Frank Thomas White Sox	Athletics? Twins? Angels?	Oakland Big Hurt-ing? Dec 9 - The A's are expected to sign right-handed slugger Frank Thomas, reports ESPN's Peter Gammons.Oakland won't formally offer him a contract until after Dec. 7 -- the deadline for teams to offer their own free agents salary arbitration. According to The Baltimore Sun, the Orioles are considering offering Thomas a one-year, incentive-laden deal. The Twins say they'll review Thomas' medical records before continuing negotiations, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reports.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Julian Tavarez Cardinals	Yankees?	A Bronx tale? Dec 9 - According to agent Scott Boras, the Yankees have an interest in Julian Tavarez, The New York Post reports.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Jason Marquis Cardinals		Swap shop? Dec 9 - According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Jason Marquis has been made available in trade discussions and could be moved for an "impact" outfielder should Matt Morris return to the Cardinals.
WHO	INTERESTED	THE SKINNY
Hank Blalock Rangers	Twins	Pitching for Blalock? Dec 9 - The Twins have talked with the Rangers about a deal for third baseman Hank Blalock, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reports. The Twins dangled right-hander Scott Baker as possible trade bait, but the team would like to keep starter Kyle Lohse. The deal also could be expanded to include Kevin Mench.

**YOUR Hero** · 12-10-2005, 02:18 PM

It sure seems like teams are under valuing hitting this off season. Pitching is what wins games of course, but you cannot over look hitting all together. When I see a guy like Blalock, for example, not getting more bites, especially when he doesn't even make 1 million bucks yet, well "

" is my response.

**The Miz** · 12-10-2005, 02:23 PM

I wouldn't pay anyone one million bucks to do this

Home
.310 Avg .379 OBP .548 Slg% .927 OPS

Away
.238 Avg .296 OBP .396 Slg% .692 OPS

Ameriquest Field.

12-10-2005, 02:18 PM	#719
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	It sure seems like teams are under valuing hitting this off season. Pitching is what wins games of course, but you cannot over look hitting all together. When I see a guy like Blalock, for example, not getting more bites, especially when he doesn't even make 1 million bucks yet, well "" is my response.

12-08-2005, 05:40 PM	#681
Joey Slugs Second City Saint Posts: 5,806	@ the brewers taking back Kolb @ the white sox finally dumping Marte

12-08-2005, 05:42 PM	#682
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	I guess if your starting rotation is 1. Erik Bedard 2. Rodrigo Lopez 3. Eric DuBose 4. Bruce Chen 5. John Maine ...it's probably a good idea to spend $30 million on a catcher, a position you currently have filled with a 40 homer guy.

12-08-2005, 05:51 PM	#685
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Most likely they'll get Gonzalez, Reese to too much of a risk. ESPN reported that The Red Sox asked LAAA about Macier Izturis and were declined

12-08-2005, 05:53 PM	#686
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	FOXsports.com says The Tigers are close to signing Kenny Rogers to a two-year deal worth about $16 million.

12-08-2005, 05:59 PM	#687
Gertner Guest Posts: n/a	lol @ tigers. This guy is notorius for fading down the stretch.

12-08-2005, 08:48 PM	#688
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,383	FOXsports says that Julio Franco is close to signing on with the Mets for 2 years. I like the signing of Franco, but 2 years for a 47-year old?

12-08-2005, 09:40 PM	#689
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	Gammons also seems to think or "know" that Theo Epstien still has some input and might be back with the Red Sox. I like Gammons a lot, I don't think there is anyone with more knowledge and better connections, but it seems the last few years he's turned into the scenial uncle... He's flipped out on simple questions on the radio and it also seems every year he blows one very big story, like when he said the Red Sox would have A-rod signed in 24hrs... Who knows, it was strange... they asked him about Theo, he kinda paused and almost backtracked like he leaked something he didn't want to.

12-08-2005, 09:42 PM	#690
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Mueller has signed with LA Dodgers

12-08-2005, 09:50 PM	#691
CNM Posts: 2,540	Apparently Miguel Tejada wants out of Baltimore http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5151318

12-08-2005, 09:55 PM	#692
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	The Jays better not get rid of Hudson for Wilkerson.

12-08-2005, 11:00 PM	#693
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Nomar is playing shortstop for the Red Sox next season

12-08-2005, 11:09 PM	#694
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	Would Boston fans want him back?

12-08-2005, 11:10 PM	#695
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	I know VEL would

12-08-2005, 11:33 PM	#696
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	I would I know it won't happen but I wish it would. I think most Boston fans would want him or back or if he did come back a lot of people would happy. The only reason I could see some being unhappy is because of recent stint of injuries, but in regards to off the field stuff I can't really see people being upset about that. I actaully got Lugo in MVP Baseball on PS2 so that is kind of weird if he does end up on the Sox in real life haha. I am just glad Renteria is gone, i'd love to see Caberia back since I know Nomar isn't going to be back haha

12-09-2005, 12:17 AM	#697
Gertner Guest Posts: n/a	ya i'd be pretty pissed at the jays trading hudson for anything

12-09-2005, 01:40 AM	#698
Boomer The Wretched Posts: 4,690	Chipper Jones was never great in the outfield. That's where he started getting injured from all the running.

12-09-2005, 01:57 AM	#699
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	The question is would Nomar want back in Boston?

12-09-2005, 02:11 AM	#700
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	ESPN is reporting that Tejada wants out of Baltimore now, so I think that this pretty much solves the Red Sox shortstop quandry. Unfortunately.

12-09-2005, 05:32 AM	#702
VonErich Lives WTF do you want? Posts: 14,760	Ok... on Nommmmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! Do the fans want him back? some do, some don't, after he lefts a lot of players said he was miserable to have in the club house. From a baseball standpoint, while he does swing at the first pitch every single time which drives most people nuts, he was a good player who worked his ass off. to see him come in for short money as a 1yr "let's take a chance" is fine with me if he's fixed his attitude. If the Sox didn't deal him, they probably wouldn't have won the WS (no Dave Roberts, no Stolen base, etc..) That being said, Stima, wanna make a bet? 1) from what I've heard there is a ton of bad feelings between Nomar and Luccino. 2) Have you notice about the teams talking to him? It's about 2nd base, or backup/utility, I think the Dodgers even asked him about centerfield. There's a reason, no one things he can play SS anymore, the injuries he's had the last few years most likely did a number on his mobility, and relying on him to be able to move/cut/turn like you need to at SS is asking to get him injured. Of course there is still the "roid" question, based on the body he had, the injuries, it's possible he was on it... honestly, I'd tend to think he wasn't, because he was a gym rat, he spent the offseasons in I think Arizona with a trainer... but who knows. So yeah, if he lost the attitude and wants to be a utility player for short money, I'd be more then happy to have him back, but I wouldn't want him as the full time Short Stop, part of the same reason as much as I like Pokey Reese, he's never made it through a season healthy...

12-09-2005, 05:53 AM	#703
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,993	When baseball players say " This situation isnt going in the direction i'd prefer and i wanna trade ". Are the essentially saying they wanna be traded to New York or Boston?

12-09-2005, 05:57 AM	#704
RP King of Love and Piss Posts: 62,993	There should just be the Yankees and teh Red Socks and thats it. Seriously. Does anyone remember the White Sox, Angels, Diamondbacks, or Marlins World Series victorys? Does anyone care? Once the season is over. It doesnt matter if you are defending champion. What really matters is who's gunna be the next center fielder for the Yankees. Baseball seriously is a joke of a league.

12-09-2005, 11:31 AM	#705
Adder A.W.O.L. Posts: 5,862	Nomar can be had for 'cheap' I don't see why every team wouldn't try to land him. If he busts, it's not an expensive experiment. If Toronto moves Hudson, they have enough players to fill that infield void. So I understand why they'd consider it, doesn't mean I like it though.

12-09-2005, 01:00 PM	#707
McDoogle The Greatness That Is Me Posts: 3,593	Frank Thomas not being a White Sox player is just too weird a concept.

12-09-2005, 02:02 PM	#710
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Dunno, I think Frank Thomas and the A's could be a good fit

12-09-2005, 03:13 PM	#712
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,383	No way Tejada is playing anything other than SS. Ordinarily I'd want the Mets to make a go for Tejada, but I'd rather not deplete the farm system even more and have to shift Reyes over to 2B again. Pitching is the main concern at this point.

12-10-2005, 12:00 PM	#715
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Ramirez for Tejada has been offered by Boston

12-10-2005, 01:19 PM	#717
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	Why would Baltimore do that deal. They'd be helping the opponent too much. The Orioles should be re-affirming themselves towards Tejeda if they're not already doing that. I doubt the O's would make that deal. WHO KNOWS THOUGH.

12-10-2005, 02:23 PM	#720
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	I wouldn't pay anyone one million bucks to do this Home .310 Avg .379 OBP .548 Slg% .927 OPS Away .238 Avg .296 OBP .396 Slg% .692 OPS Ameriquest Field.