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Old 02-21-2009, 07:23 PM   #681
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I really can't see Manny going anywhere other than the Dodgers at this point. The only other team that might be able to grab him would be the Giants, and even then I just don't see it.
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I think Garrett still has more left in the tank than Griffey so I think the Braves really made out better in this situation for only a slightly higher price tag.
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Yeah Anderson is a solid player.

The NL East is gonna be mad exciting this year. I ultimately think it'll come down to the Mets and Phillies again but the Braves should be good and the Marlins are always a team that can put it together and contend even when no one thinks they will.
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I'm excited and scared for the Braves. Our pitching looks pretty spectacular in the long run, considering we've got Hudson and potential stud Tommy Hanson waiting to enter the rotation later on, but our lineup looks like a clusterfuck. We currently are without a good leadoff and cleanup hitter, and have to force guys who do much better at other parts in the lineup to fill in.

Jeff Francoeur better prove everybody wrong, though. I'm pretty sick of fans talking so much about him. I mean he was atrocious last year, but we've got plenty of other problems. Our lack of outfield power is astounding.
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Since I'm bored, here's my breakdown of the Mets:

-Lineup: Luis Castillo playing well is absolutely key. If he can get on base and hit around .280 I'll be satisfied, him playing well and getting on base before the big hitters (which may or may not include Reyes) is huge. Not sure I totally agree with Manuel already handing the LF job fulltime to Daniel Murphy (although I think platooning him is counterproductive) because he said Tatis might platoon with Church and that might piss Church off.

-Rotation: Mike Francesa was going on and on about how many question marks the Mets rotation has and how only Santana can be considered a lock to win 15 games, Pelfrey is risky coming off his first full season, Perez can be inconsistent, Maine is coming off an injury, and they haven't identified a 5th starter yet. At the same time, he said the entire Yankees rotation is a lock for 15 wins each at minimum and they should all easily be able to make 30 starts each. Fuck off, Fatcessa.

-Bullpen: Everyone seems to think K-Rod is gonna bomb, but I dunno, I feel MUCH better about the bullpen. I doubt he will be as good as last year, but still a huge improvement. The Mets had a killer bullpen in 2006 and that offset their rotation (which on Opening Day included the likes of Steve Trachsel, Victor Zambrano, and Brian Bannister). If Duaner Sanchez can get back to the level of play he had in 2006 prior to his injury, they will have a nasty 7-8-9 combo.

-Bench: I'm actually more worried about the bench than any other phase of the team. Their 4th outfielder will be either Jeremy Reed or Cory Sullivan (lefties). Their reserve middle infielder is Alex Cora (lefty). Ramon Castro is a righty but the backup catcher so not a pinch-hit canidate. Fernando Tatis could be a righty off the bench, but on days he's starting that would mean another lefty on the bench. Lastly, they seem inclined to bring Marlon Anderson, yet ANOTHER lefty. If he could play like he did in 05-07, then great...but otherwise I kinda hope they eat his contract and bring along Angel Pagan, Bobby Kielty, or even Jose Valentin.
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Jeremy Reed needs to blossom soon. Maybe this will be the time and place for him.
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Jeez Perez is a dickhead. He signs a contract on February 5th and 2 weeks later he no shows camp because he wants more money. ok


He might be dead though cause no one seems to know where he is
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-Rotation: Mike Francesa was going on and on about how many question marks the Mets rotation has and how only Santana can be considered a lock to win 15 games, Pelfrey is risky coming off his first full season, Perez can be inconsistent, Maine is coming off an injury, and they haven't identified a 5th starter yet. At the same time, he said the entire Yankees rotation is a lock for 15 wins each at minimum and they should all easily be able to make 30 starts each. Fuck off, Fatcessa.
Francesa's fucking nuts if he thinks Burnett's making 30 starts this year. He's never had back-to-back 30-start seasons in his career. I wouldn't even be surprised if Sabathia broke down a bit after being ridden so hard by the Brewers down the stretch last year and misses the 30-start mark. Chamberlain's started 12 games his entire career and he's 23 years old...expecting him to make 30 this year might be pushing it. They'd be better off skipping his spot in the rotation a few times, otherwise they can start to watch him turn into Mark Prior.

Nevermind the fact that pitchers these days have very little control over their W-L records, so saying they're all a lock for 15 wins is borderline retarded. Christ...no wonder I stopped listening to him more than a year ago.
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Where is Reed playing these days?

He is like, what, 30 now?
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Reed is 27 and is on the Mets, he came over in the trade that also sent JJ Putz and Sean Green to NY. He's competing with Cory Sullivan for the 4th outfielder job...from what I can gather, they are essentially the same player...and both of them are essentially the same player as Endy Chavez, whose role they are replacing.
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Francesa's fucking nuts if he thinks Burnett's making 30 starts this year. He's never had back-to-back 30-start seasons in his career. I wouldn't even be surprised if Sabathia broke down a bit after being ridden so hard by the Brewers down the stretch last year and misses the 30-start mark. Chamberlain's started 12 games his entire career and he's 23 years old...expecting him to make 30 this year might be pushing it. They'd be better off skipping his spot in the rotation a few times, otherwise they can start to watch him turn into Mark Prior.

Nevermind the fact that pitchers these days have very little control over their W-L records, so saying they're all a lock for 15 wins is borderline retarded. Christ...no wonder I stopped listening to him more than a year ago.
Yeah it pisses me off. I mean yeah, on paper, I've got no problem saying the Yanks' rotation is better than the Mets'. If all involved were healthy and pitching normal, they definitely have the edge.

But it chaps my ass how he routinely badmouths the Mets yet gives the Yanks a pass for the same shit. Saying John Maine, who has only had one big enough injury in his career to keep him out and is healthy now, is an injury risk yet not mentioning Burnett who has had about 1923393 injuries is absurd.

What's also absurd is that he made a big deal about how pitchers have historically had a bad year a season after they pitched a significant amount of innings more than the previous year and how Pelfrey is a prime canidate for that...again, Burnett could be mentioned.
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Francesa's fucking nuts if he thinks Burnett's making 30 starts this year. He's never had back-to-back 30-start seasons in his career. I wouldn't even be surprised if Sabathia broke down a bit after being ridden so hard by the Brewers down the stretch last year and misses the 30-start mark. Chamberlain's started 12 games his entire career and he's 23 years old...expecting him to make 30 this year might be pushing it. They'd be better off skipping his spot in the rotation a few times, otherwise they can start to watch him turn into Mark Prior.

Nevermind the fact that pitchers these days have very little control over their W-L records, so saying they're all a lock for 15 wins is borderline retarded. Christ...no wonder I stopped listening to him more than a year ago.
The Yankees have said Joba will be the 5th starter so they can skip him whenever they can. He's probably gonna be at 150 innings or something.

Francesa is an idiot though. Everytime Joba's name is brought up he has to do the whole Joba to the bullpen routine.
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Yeah it pisses me off. I mean yeah, on paper, I've got no problem saying the Yanks' rotation is better than the Mets'. If all involved were healthy and pitching normal, they definitely have the edge.

But it chaps my ass how he routinely badmouths the Mets yet gives the Yanks a pass for the same shit. Saying John Maine, who has only had one big enough injury in his career to keep him out and is healthy now, is an injury risk yet not mentioning Burnett who has had about 1923393 injuries is absurd.

What's also absurd is that he made a big deal about how pitchers have historically had a bad year a season after they pitched a significant amount of innings more than the previous year and how Pelfrey is a prime canidate for that...again, Burnett could be mentioned.
According to Mike Francesa, Burnett will be a star here because he is such a handsome guy and the ladies will love him. When I actually heard him say that it was about as awkward a radio silence as there could possibly be.
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LOL didn't hear that one. Wow. Even though Mad Dog hated the Mets too, having him on there to at least counter some of Mike's BS was a million times better.

According to Fox Radio in LA, Manny and the Dodgers have agreed on a 2-year contract with a 3rd year incentive-based option.
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Reed is 27 and is on the Mets, he came over in the trade that also sent JJ Putz and Sean Green to NY. He's competing with Cory Sullivan for the 4th outfielder job...from what I can gather, they are essentially the same player...and both of them are essentially the same player as Endy Chavez, whose role they are replacing.
27, thats it? i thought he was older. He has been on the cusp of breaking out for years.

I actually like Sullivan more. He has a decent stroke, and in the mets Lineup could go .280, 15 65 out of the bottom of the lineup.
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27, thats it? i thought he was older. He has been on the cusp of breaking out for years.

I actually like Sullivan more. He has a decent stroke, and in the mets Lineup could go .280, 15 65 out of the bottom of the lineup.
Well regardless of who wins between Reed and Sullivan, they won't be playing everyday unless there's an injury. Murphy-Beltran-Church appears to be the everyday outfield with Tatis getting some starts in one of the corner spots against lefties. Reed/Sullivan's assignment is going to primarily be late-inning defense. And in Citi Field, the walls in LF and RF are really high, so no Endy Chavez-like catches are required or possible.

I kinda like going into the season as the underdog. After the Santana trade last year most people pegged the Mets as the favorites...but despite revamping the bullpen this year, most places are saying the Phillies will win, not that I blame them as it's always hard to bet against the defending WS champs.

But the Phils had one of if not the best bullpens in baseball and won the division by like 3 games, Brad Lidge didn't blow a save (something I just can't see happening again). Meanwhile the Mets blew like 30 saves or something ridiculous like that. They get even half of those back and they win the division by a sizable margin.
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First spring training games start today. Woooooooo
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Yeah I love the day of first ST games, meaningless as they might be. Sitting here on a cold winter Wednesday listening to the Orioles radio station coverage of the game.
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Dodgers throw Manny a new offer. 2-years, $45 mil.

However, the first year is for $25 mil. The second is a player option for $20 mil.
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lol I love Spring Training. Jerry Manuel has posted the lineups for the game today and he has Oliver Perez batting 2nd to ensure a plate appearance and he's gonna bunt regardless of whether or not Luis Castillo gets on ahead of him.
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Spring training or not, I'm so happy to have baseball on right now
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Ditto. Jerry Manuel has been having his batters do a new drill where they all hit to opposite field for 80 straight pitches...and thus far most of their hits have been to opposite field and they are currently hitting a ton including 2 Jose Reyes dingers from the 3 spot.

Still 38 days to Opening Day
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Dodgers sign Doug Mientkiewicz to a minor league deal and will be at spring training once he passes a physical.
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Can someone help me make sense of this?






Giants sign Lincecum to $650K contractComment Email Print Share Associated Press
SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- Tim Lincecum agreed to a $650,000, one-year contract with the San Francisco Giants on Thursday.



Lincecum

The 24-year-old Lincecum won the National League Cy Young Award in 2008, going 18-5 with a 2.62 ERA while striking out a major league-leading 265 batters in 227 innings.

He ranked third in the major leagues in ERA and winning percentage, and was second in the NL in ERA and victories.

Lincecum, who made his major league debut on May 6, 2007, is likely to be eligible for salary arbitration after the 2009 season.
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Well. One reason is they gotta pay off Zito.
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Lincecum is not arbitration eligible yet. The Giants only have to pay him whatever they feel like paying him. I'm sure he'll shatter pitcher arbitration records once he is eligible.
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Lincecum is not arbitration eligible yet. The Giants only have to pay him whatever they feel like paying him. I'm sure he'll shatter pitcher arbitration records once he is eligible.
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WTF Fuck you Manny. What the hell do you want?! This is ridiculous. It's getting to the point that I don't want Manny to be a Dodger anymore.
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i see
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was trying to figure out how the Cy Young winner didnt rape the Giants for a monster contract.
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WTF Fuck you Manny. What the hell do you want?! This is ridiculous. It's getting to the point that I don't want Manny to be a Dodger anymore.
A few writers and analysts said that if Manny rejects this one, then he probably won't be playing at all.

It's looking like that.
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