MLB 2006-2007 Offseason Thread - Page 19

**FakeLaser** · 12-20-2006, 05:57 PM

He did put up pretty bad numbers last year too.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 12-20-2006, 06:06 PM

Heard the Red Sox are trying to put something in JD Drews contract to protect themselves from a long DL stint. Ivan Rodriguez has something like this, I bet they are going try to do something like if he is on the DL with a shoulder injury for more then 60 days then they can terminate the contract. I'm not gonna lie, I really don't know much about the guy, but if they are keeping Wily Mo, Manny and Coco is he really worth this much money even without the injury questions? How much is he really going to play?

**FakeLaser** · 12-20-2006, 06:12 PM

I think I would have rather signed a veteran like Luis Gonzalez, Moises Alou or Kenny Lofton for a fraction of the price (and contract length) to platoon with Willy Mo, who could start against lefties or if the veteran goes down.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 12-20-2006, 06:15 PM

I could see if they traded Manny and wanted to get this guy, but from what I've been seeing Manny is stayin in Boston so I don't really get it. Why not use that money elsewhere? (like signing Nomar Garicaparra

)

Also, is JD Drew even that good?

**FakeLaser** · 12-20-2006, 06:18 PM

JD Drew could be a 5 tool player but he's always hurt. If you guys sign him and he stays healthy he could be a great addition. He never stays healthy though. He's had one season with 500 AB in his career, for Atlanta. Hit .305/.436/.539 with 31 HR, 96 RBIs and 12 SBs. The talent is there, he just never makes it through an entire season.

Shit, the guy has only had 4 seasons with at least 400 at bats, in 9 seasons.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 12-20-2006, 06:25 PM

Damn, everyone already hates him here in Boston. Plus a lot of people are pissed since they are letting Nixon walk (because injury history) for a guy with an injury history of his own. From what I've heard, Drew is better then Nixon but people in the Bean don't care...Nixon was a huge fan favorite here.

**YOUR Hero** · 12-20-2006, 08:43 PM

Nixon might have had injury problems, but he played hard. Drew does not. Drew has way more talent, but... Drew has in the past taken the day off because of a sore neck that he got from sleeping wrong. Come on man.

**YOUR Hero** · 12-20-2006, 08:46 PM

I have heard that Boston only signed Drew to appease Boras while still dealing for K-Dice, but they always felt Drew would fail the physical. Don't know if there's any truth to this at all, but it's an LOL conspiracy theory.

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 12-20-2006, 11:46 PM

Yeah I don't think so, since it seems they are still going to sign Drew even though they already have Matsuzaka

Not sure if you followed the Red Sox very closely but Nixon often hurt himself doing things like swinging a bat, running to first etc. I always thought he was on steriods personally, and still do. A lot of poeple would be like "WHAT NO WAY MAN ITS TROT!!" but I don't know, I'm not as big as a Trot fan as a lot of other people in Boston. I don't get how you can be a major league player and absolutely have no chance of hitting a lefty, like he was an automatic out againest a lefty. To me that's kinda ridiculous.

**BCWWF** · 12-21-2006, 02:54 AM

I really hope Drew fails and isn't signed, just because he opted out of a great contract with the Dodgers when he absolutely did not deserve better. Greedy ass hole.

**Boondock Saint** · 12-21-2006, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTiMa34

Yeah I don't think so, since it seems they are still going to sign Drew even though they already have Matsuzaka

Not sure if you followed the Red Sox very closely but Nixon often hurt himself doing things like swinging a bat, running to first etc. I always thought he was on steriods personally, and still do. A lot of poeple would be like "WHAT NO WAY MAN ITS TROT!!" but I don't know, I'm not as big as a Trot fan as a lot of other people in Boston. I don't get how you can be a major league player and absolutely have no chance of hitting a lefty, like he was an automatic out againest a lefty. To me that's kinda ridiculous.

WHAT NO WAY MAN ITS TROT!!

**treen007** · 12-21-2006, 11:07 AM

why would the sox ever sign nomar after all that went down. and why would nomar want to come back.

bring back dave roberts and o.cab!

Wooooo!

**Adder** · 12-21-2006, 01:44 PM

I'm reading that Boras is saying that there is nothing wrong with Drew's shoulder. Also it doesn't appear the original deal had anything about milestones being reached for Drew to make less money than the 14M per year. That's foolish on the RedSox' part. All it states is that if Drew does meet certain targets, some of the contracts last season of 14M could be deffered. So he'd still get every penney, basically a garaunteed contract with possible defferement in the last season's earnings. Again, that's a foolish agreement by the RedSoxdifferedpennyguaranteeddeferment.

**YOUR Hero** · 12-21-2006, 09:39 PM

Sammy Sosa

Sammy Sosa begins training for return to major leagues

By DIONISIO SOLDEVILA, Associated Press Writer
December 21, 2006

SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic (AP) -- Sammy Sosa began training Thursday in hopes of returning to the major leagues.
"I feel like I did when I was a rookie," Sosa told The Associated Press. "I have a lot of spirit and a desire to return. I think I can play three or four more years in the form I am now."

Sosa hit the ball out of the park 15 times while training at a field in San Pedro de Macoris that is operated by the Japanese league's Hiroshima Carp.

The 38-year-old slugger said he had received calls from teams interested in signing him but declined to reveal their names.

He has not played since his 2005 season with the Baltimore Orioles, when he hit .221 with 14 home runs and 45 RBIs.

Sosa feels that baseball has since turned its back on him, calling it a "blow" to not have received offers to come back during this year's season.
The only team that has publicly expressed interest in the Dominican's services were the Washington Nationals, who offered a non-guaranteed $500,000 contract that Sosa rejected.

"I want the chance and I believe one is going to appear. This time I will accept an offer like the one with the Nationals because I want to get back to the majors," he said.

Sosa, who won the National League's most valuable player award, played 17 seasons with the Texas Rangers, Chicago White Sox and Cubs and finally with Baltimore.
A year away from the game wouldn't shake him, he said. "Ted Williams went to war and lost a couple years. More recently, Barry Bonds stayed away for more than a year and came back, and the same happened with Frank Thomas because of injuries," he said.

**CNM** · 12-21-2006, 10:46 PM

LOL @ Sammy comparing himself to Ted Williams

**MVP** · 12-21-2006, 11:37 PM

The Devil Rays can have Sosa.

**Adder** · 12-22-2006, 11:15 AM

I read on Yahoo Sports this morning that Dontrelle Willis was arrested for DUI in Miami last night. Wonder if that will affect his standing on the team and what not.

**FakeLaser** · 12-22-2006, 03:24 PM

Ken Griffey Jr. suffered a broken left hand during an accident at his Orlando home.

lol, terrible. Might be time to call it quits, Mr. Griffey.

**ClockShot** · 12-22-2006, 04:25 PM

Yankees make a rather quiet pick up. Infielder Juan Miranda out of cuba.

Here's the details. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2706395

**Evil Vito** · 12-23-2006, 09:13 AM

Trade to be completed soon:

Yankees get: LHP Mike Gonzalez

Pirates get: 1B Adam LaRoche

Braves get: OF Melky Cabrera and either OF Nate McClouth or 2B Jose Castillo

**FakeLaser** · 12-23-2006, 02:09 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

**FakeLaser** · 12-23-2006, 02:10 PM

Where did you hear that, Vito? They've been saying for like a week that that trade isn't going down anymore.

**FakeLaser** · 12-23-2006, 02:13 PM

Other news:

Juan Rivera sustained a broken left tibia while playing winter ball in Venezuela on Friday.

Rivera's left leg has been placed in a cast and he will be flown to Miami, where he will be re-examined by a trauma specialist tomorrow. Depending on how severe the break is, he might not be ready for the beginning of the season. If he is ready, at least the Angels will finally have a good excuse for using him as a DH and Garret Anderson in the outfield. A severe break would increase the chances that the Angels sign Shea Hillenbrand and might cause them to give Aubrey Huff's agent a call.

According to FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal, Keith Foulke is leaning toward signing with Cleveland, though a deal likely will not be completed until after Christmas.

Two sources familiar with the situation told the Dayton Daily News that Ken Griffey Jr. broke his left hand while playing with his kids.

It's likely, though not certain, that Griffey will be ready for the beginning of the exhibition season. The Reds, however, will want to limit his spring training action either way.

Free agent Shea Hillenbrand is frustrated with the Yankees, saying he was told multiple times they would make an offer though they've yet to do so.

Hillenbrand told The Star-Ledger on Thursday he thought the Yankees were no longer looking to sign him because of his defense. A Yankees official denied that, but it might be more likely that Hillenbrand joins the Angels.

**Evil Vito** · 12-23-2006, 02:56 PM

Brandon McCarthy has been traded to the Rangers for 3 prospects

Pretty puzzling trade seeing as the entire reason Freddy Garcia was traded was to give B-Mac a rotation spot

**FakeLaser** · 12-23-2006, 04:52 PM

Wow, that is a weird deal. They've been grooming McCarthy for the rotation for years now.

**BCWWF** · 12-23-2006, 07:40 PM

It's hard to say though, because a lot of times a young pitchers potential is clouded by hype. Like just because he is 23 and a pretty good pitcher doesn't mean that he is neccessarily going to be Buehrle-esque in the future. The Twins have had a lot of guys like that, Scott Baker being the best example. You hear the stories of how he shot through the minors and all that, then he gets to the majors with all these expectations, but then you quickly realize he isn't an ace. So if that is the case with the White Sox, they probably made a good move here.

**YOUR Hero** · 12-24-2006, 12:26 PM

Fucking Hillenbrand. The guy's got talent, but what a loud-mouthed asshole.

**BCWWF** · 12-24-2006, 01:15 PM

Like the Miz

**DaveWadding** · 12-24-2006, 04:48 PM

MILWAUKEE -- Jeff Suppan, the MVP of the NL Championship Series for the St. Louis Cardinals this season, has signed a four-year free agent contract with the Milwaukee Brewers.

According to The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the deal is worth $42 million.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2707975

**YOUR Hero** · 12-24-2006, 05:59 PM

Good fit for Suppan there. Make a lot of money and not need to worry about winning a WS in Milwaukee. When I heard the Brewers were after him last week, I figured he'd land there. Pressure is off playing there so he can do his thing and then retire. He'd only be 35 at the end of the deal, so maybe not retire - if his numbers are halfway decent after this contract, which they should be, barring injury.

**Evil Vito** · 12-24-2006, 08:23 PM

When a guy with a career 4.60 ERA gets $42 million, it leaves me with no doubt that Zito's gonna get $95 million-$100 million

**Evil Vito** · 12-24-2006, 10:08 PM

Come to think, there's absolutely no excuse for the Mets not to sign Zito. It would be ridiculous if we add no starter to the top of our rotation when close to $4 million tickets were sold last year, SNY took off, the naming rights to the new stadium were sold for $20 million a year, and when our tickets will go up by $12 this season.

**Splaya** · 12-24-2006, 10:37 PM

Mets should get Zito. The way their rotation was hurt last season, they need someone reliable. Plus if some way some how Pedro can make a comeback, they would have a nice 1-2 punch towards the end of the season.

Something I've noticed that actually worries the Detroit Tiger fan in me. The Yankees have really beefed up their rotation again.

**OssMan** · 12-24-2006, 10:57 PM

WHAT THE FUCK should the mets get Zito, i dunno. i say just bring up some minor league dudes n let them struggle but that is not the Omar Minaya way.

**BCWWF** · 12-25-2006, 01:01 AM

Two years ago, I thought the Yankees had rebuilt their lineup and were ready to be dominant again. Didn't really think so last year, but right now they look like they could be just dominant. Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Rocket back in the Bronx, which wouldn't help matters.

**ClockShot** · 12-25-2006, 07:29 PM

Some big news right here.

Supposedly, the Arizona Diamondbacks pitched a trade to the Yankees. A package of players for Randy Johnson. Nothing set in stone yet, but New York is kicking it over.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2708203

**Evil Vito** · 12-25-2006, 09:30 PM

Right now I'm hearing RJ and some cash to the D-Backs, with Chad Tracy and 2 other prospects to the Yanks

Yanks completely fleece them there.

**Gimmick** · 12-25-2006, 09:39 PM

The Jays need an arm, I suspect a trade before the season starts. I wouldn't be shocked to see Rios moved under the right conditions.

**Gimmick** · 12-25-2006, 09:55 PM

The other possibility is the Jays sign Mark Mulder. I know it's in fashion to bash the guy, but he played the last season + injured. I don't know if he'll be ready for the beginning of next season, but if he gets healthy, he could be a steal. Same thing with Brian Lawrence. Like Mulder, this guy had a bad/injury filled season last year + When healthy, they've put up really solid numbers. Someone's going to be bold and take chances on them, sure would like to see the Jays be one of the brave.

**OssMan** · 12-25-2006, 09:58 PM

Mulder is not going to get healthy. He lost it.

12-20-2006, 05:57 PM	#721
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	He did put up pretty bad numbers last year too.

12-20-2006, 06:06 PM	#722
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Heard the Red Sox are trying to put something in JD Drews contract to protect themselves from a long DL stint. Ivan Rodriguez has something like this, I bet they are going try to do something like if he is on the DL with a shoulder injury for more then 60 days then they can terminate the contract. I'm not gonna lie, I really don't know much about the guy, but if they are keeping Wily Mo, Manny and Coco is he really worth this much money even without the injury questions? How much is he really going to play?

12-20-2006, 06:12 PM	#723
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	I think I would have rather signed a veteran like Luis Gonzalez, Moises Alou or Kenny Lofton for a fraction of the price (and contract length) to platoon with Willy Mo, who could start against lefties or if the veteran goes down.

12-20-2006, 06:15 PM	#724
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	I could see if they traded Manny and wanted to get this guy, but from what I've been seeing Manny is stayin in Boston so I don't really get it. Why not use that money elsewhere? (like signing Nomar Garicaparra ) Also, is JD Drew even that good?

12-20-2006, 06:18 PM	#725
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	JD Drew could be a 5 tool player but he's always hurt. If you guys sign him and he stays healthy he could be a great addition. He never stays healthy though. He's had one season with 500 AB in his career, for Atlanta. Hit .305/.436/.539 with 31 HR, 96 RBIs and 12 SBs. The talent is there, he just never makes it through an entire season. Shit, the guy has only had 4 seasons with at least 400 at bats, in 9 seasons.

12-20-2006, 06:25 PM	#726
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Damn, everyone already hates him here in Boston. Plus a lot of people are pissed since they are letting Nixon walk (because injury history) for a guy with an injury history of his own. From what I've heard, Drew is better then Nixon but people in the Bean don't care...Nixon was a huge fan favorite here.

12-20-2006, 08:43 PM	#727
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	Nixon might have had injury problems, but he played hard. Drew does not. Drew has way more talent, but... Drew has in the past taken the day off because of a sore neck that he got from sleeping wrong. Come on man.

12-20-2006, 08:46 PM	#728
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	I have heard that Boston only signed Drew to appease Boras while still dealing for K-Dice, but they always felt Drew would fail the physical. Don't know if there's any truth to this at all, but it's an LOL conspiracy theory.

12-20-2006, 11:46 PM	#729
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Yeah I don't think so, since it seems they are still going to sign Drew even though they already have Matsuzaka Not sure if you followed the Red Sox very closely but Nixon often hurt himself doing things like swinging a bat, running to first etc. I always thought he was on steriods personally, and still do. A lot of poeple would be like "WHAT NO WAY MAN ITS TROT!!" but I don't know, I'm not as big as a Trot fan as a lot of other people in Boston. I don't get how you can be a major league player and absolutely have no chance of hitting a lefty, like he was an automatic out againest a lefty. To me that's kinda ridiculous.

12-21-2006, 02:54 AM	#730
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I really hope Drew fails and isn't signed, just because he opted out of a great contract with the Dodgers when he absolutely did not deserve better. Greedy ass hole.

12-21-2006, 11:07 AM	#732
treen007 Suck it and see... Posts: 66	why would the sox ever sign nomar after all that went down. and why would nomar want to come back. bring back dave roberts and o.cab! Wooooo!

12-21-2006, 01:44 PM	#733
Adder A.W.O.L. Posts: 5,862	I'm reading that Boras is saying that there is nothing wrong with Drew's shoulder. Also it doesn't appear the original deal had anything about milestones being reached for Drew to make less money than the 14M per year. That's foolish on the RedSox' part. All it states is that if Drew does meet certain targets, some of the contracts last season of 14M could be deffered. So he'd still get every penney, basically a garaunteed contract with possible defferement in the last season's earnings. Again, that's a foolish agreement by the RedSoxdifferedpennyguaranteeddeferment.

12-21-2006, 10:46 PM	#735
CNM Posts: 2,540	LOL @ Sammy comparing himself to Ted Williams

12-21-2006, 11:37 PM	#736
MVP Mas Vagina Porfavor Posts: 11,343	The Devil Rays can have Sosa.

12-22-2006, 11:15 AM	#737
Adder A.W.O.L. Posts: 5,862	I read on Yahoo Sports this morning that Dontrelle Willis was arrested for DUI in Miami last night. Wonder if that will affect his standing on the team and what not.

12-22-2006, 03:24 PM	#738
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	Ken Griffey Jr. suffered a broken left hand during an accident at his Orlando home. lol, terrible. Might be time to call it quits, Mr. Griffey.

12-22-2006, 04:25 PM	#739
ClockShot TPWW Fire Pro Champ Posts: 34,001	Yankees make a rather quiet pick up. Infielder Juan Miranda out of cuba. Here's the details. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2706395

12-23-2006, 09:13 AM	#740
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,329	Trade to be completed soon: Yankees get: LHP Mike Gonzalez Pirates get: 1B Adam LaRoche Braves get: OF Melky Cabrera and either OF Nate McClouth or 2B Jose Castillo

12-23-2006, 02:09 PM	#741
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

12-23-2006, 02:10 PM	#742
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	Where did you hear that, Vito? They've been saying for like a week that that trade isn't going down anymore.

12-23-2006, 02:13 PM	#743
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	Other news: Juan Rivera sustained a broken left tibia while playing winter ball in Venezuela on Friday. Rivera's left leg has been placed in a cast and he will be flown to Miami, where he will be re-examined by a trauma specialist tomorrow. Depending on how severe the break is, he might not be ready for the beginning of the season. If he is ready, at least the Angels will finally have a good excuse for using him as a DH and Garret Anderson in the outfield. A severe break would increase the chances that the Angels sign Shea Hillenbrand and might cause them to give Aubrey Huff's agent a call. According to FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal, Keith Foulke is leaning toward signing with Cleveland, though a deal likely will not be completed until after Christmas. Two sources familiar with the situation told the Dayton Daily News that Ken Griffey Jr. broke his left hand while playing with his kids. It's likely, though not certain, that Griffey will be ready for the beginning of the exhibition season. The Reds, however, will want to limit his spring training action either way. Free agent Shea Hillenbrand is frustrated with the Yankees, saying he was told multiple times they would make an offer though they've yet to do so. Hillenbrand told The Star-Ledger on Thursday he thought the Yankees were no longer looking to sign him because of his defense. A Yankees official denied that, but it might be more likely that Hillenbrand joins the Angels.

12-23-2006, 02:56 PM	#744
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,329	Brandon McCarthy has been traded to the Rangers for 3 prospects Pretty puzzling trade seeing as the entire reason Freddy Garcia was traded was to give B-Mac a rotation spot

12-23-2006, 04:52 PM	#745
FakeLaser continental drift Posts: 46,731	Wow, that is a weird deal. They've been grooming McCarthy for the rotation for years now.

12-23-2006, 07:40 PM	#746
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	It's hard to say though, because a lot of times a young pitchers potential is clouded by hype. Like just because he is 23 and a pretty good pitcher doesn't mean that he is neccessarily going to be Buehrle-esque in the future. The Twins have had a lot of guys like that, Scott Baker being the best example. You hear the stories of how he shot through the minors and all that, then he gets to the majors with all these expectations, but then you quickly realize he isn't an ace. So if that is the case with the White Sox, they probably made a good move here.

12-24-2006, 12:26 PM	#747
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	Fucking Hillenbrand. The guy's got talent, but what a loud-mouthed asshole.

12-24-2006, 01:15 PM	#748
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Like the Miz

12-24-2006, 04:48 PM	#749
DaveWadding LIMITLESS Posts: 32,276	MILWAUKEE -- Jeff Suppan, the MVP of the NL Championship Series for the St. Louis Cardinals this season, has signed a four-year free agent contract with the Milwaukee Brewers. According to The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the deal is worth $42 million. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2707975

12-24-2006, 05:59 PM	#750
YOUR Hero Adminstigator Posts: 102,491	Good fit for Suppan there. Make a lot of money and not need to worry about winning a WS in Milwaukee. When I heard the Brewers were after him last week, I figured he'd land there. Pressure is off playing there so he can do his thing and then retire. He'd only be 35 at the end of the deal, so maybe not retire - if his numbers are halfway decent after this contract, which they should be, barring injury.

12-24-2006, 08:23 PM	#751
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,329	When a guy with a career 4.60 ERA gets $42 million, it leaves me with no doubt that Zito's gonna get $95 million-$100 million

12-24-2006, 10:08 PM	#752
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,329	Come to think, there's absolutely no excuse for the Mets not to sign Zito. It would be ridiculous if we add no starter to the top of our rotation when close to $4 million tickets were sold last year, SNY took off, the naming rights to the new stadium were sold for $20 million a year, and when our tickets will go up by $12 this season.