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Old 10-03-2016, 04:43 PM   #7601
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Plus Britton had a better year than Eckersley the year he won the Cy Young although not statistically as good as Ecks .61 ERA year
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Old 10-03-2016, 04:51 PM   #7602
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All you ever hear about is how wins are a shitty statistic for pitchers to be measured by and the only thing the two main CY candidates have going for them are they win 20+ games.
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Old 10-03-2016, 04:57 PM   #7603
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Rivera posted a WAR of 4 or better 5x in his career, including a 5 WAR year. Britton has never done that. Even this year.

Mariano pitched 15 seasons with a FIP under 3. I.e., his run prevention was not tied to not reliant in luck. He legit dominated. 2 Of those seasons he finished under 2.

Britton, in his best year, is not as good.

Rivera also threw 70 or more innings 10x. Including a year he threw over 100. Britton hasn't cracked that in the past 2 years.

You can pretend it's 1995 and that Britton is better Droford, but he's not. He's having a fluke season and only the most blind of homers are going to pretend that Britton is as good as Mariano. He's having a Mariano like season. But that and being as good are two different things.

I know it's hard because God forbid Baltimore is not the baseball Mecca of the world. I know objective analyses hurts. But the truth shall set you free.
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Old 10-03-2016, 05:03 PM   #7604
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The only thing Britton has going for him is he pitches in the one inning a night in less than half the team's games, beating up on the bottom of the order the majority of the time. He's faced the 6-8 hitters more times than any other part of the order. Not really impressive when you're dominating the bottom of the lineup.

But context be damned.
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Old 10-03-2016, 05:31 PM   #7605
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The only thing Britton has going for him is he pitches in the one inning a night in less than half the team's games, beating up on the bottom of the order the majority of the time. He's faced the 6-8 hitters more times than any other part of the order. Not really impressive when you're dominating the bottom of the lineup.

But context be damned.
His sinker was voted the best pitch in baseball and it leads to an 80% ground ball rate.


Britton has been a full time closer the last 2 years (started midway in 2014) His FIP last year was 2.01 this year 1.94 better than Rivera every year except Riveras first full season in 96. So try again on that.
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Old 10-03-2016, 05:35 PM   #7606
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Diamondbacks just called for maid services.

GM Dave Stewart, and Manager Chip Hale got the axe.

Tony La Russa is in limbo at the moment.
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Old 10-03-2016, 05:38 PM   #7607
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Rivera holds the career record for adjusted ERA (ERA+) at 205. Even in His best year (318 2008) he was sort of short of Brittons 827.
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Does Britton only pitch in save situations?
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Why am I trying to prove Britton never posted a better FIP than Rivera? Shouldn't you be trying to prove that?
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Old 10-03-2016, 06:09 PM   #7610
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He also never posted a higher WAR, nor is he throwing as many innings. But yeah he's way better than Mo and clearly the CY award this year is driven by the narrative of pitcher wins
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Old 10-03-2016, 06:14 PM   #7611
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Does Britton only pitch in save situations?
For the most part yes. He's thrown more games than innings this year. And is pretty much a 1 inning guy. Whereas Rivera was regularly clearing more innings than games.
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Old 10-03-2016, 06:35 PM   #7612
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the same number of people picked the Twins to win the AL Central as the Orioles to win the Wild Card in the preseason

Also same number as Rays winning AL East
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Old 10-03-2016, 06:43 PM   #7613
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Who cares? Are you so insecure with yourself and things you like that you have to obnoxiously point out how everyone was wrong? Nobody takes predictions seriously.

Well except you apparently.
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Old 10-03-2016, 06:52 PM   #7614
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Jays starting Stroman with a 7.04 ERA vs the Orioles this year (18 runs in 23 innings) vs not starting Lirano who have up no runs and 10ks last week vs the Orioles who are the worst team in baseball vs LHP (.234/.301/.391)

It's like Gibbons doesn't know what he's doing
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Marlins fire Barry Bonds, who was the team's hitting coach after 1 season.
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Old 10-03-2016, 07:37 PM   #7616
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Well, I guess he couldn't teach them to test negative on a drug test while taking the gas.
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I totally wasn't aware that despite the Orioles sucktitude on the road they won 5 road series in September for the first time in franchise history vs all 4 al East teams (and detroit)
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Droford, how is that 13-0 start going for the Ravens? I hear Oakland is going to win the Superbowl this year so that explains the loss.
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Makes some sense since he got hired mainly to help Giancarlo Stanton reach the next level as a hitter and instead Stanton had his worst season hitting wise. Also didn't help the long HR droughts he had during the season.
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Just imagine how it's going to be when the Orioles lose to the cubs in the World Series Win the World Series
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And yes I'm almost resigned to the fact the Orioles will probably be the team that loses to the Cubs just because it's like 27% the Orioles fault the Cubs are where they are now so it would only be fitting
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Jays starting Stroman with a 7.04 ERA vs the Orioles this year (18 runs in 23 innings) vs not starting Lirano who have up no runs and 10ks last week vs the Orioles who are the worst team in baseball vs LHP (.234/.301/.391)

It's like Gibbons doesn't know what he's doing
Gibbons is a fucking moron
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Gained a lot of respect for Manny Machado this year. Spent less time whining about Jose Bautista, spent more time mashing and being awesome at 3rd base.


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Old 10-04-2016, 12:04 AM   #7628
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Game cannot start soon enough lol
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Good point brought up

Orioles Blue Jays would have happened under the old wild card rules as game 163 since they tied record wise. Just like in 2012 when the Orioles tied regular season with Texas.
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Tillman leaving a lot of pitches up and now the heart of the order is coming.

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Nothing worse than seeing dudes swing at the first pitch in a spot like that. Total rally killer.
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Old 10-04-2016, 09:46 PM   #7640
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