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Old 04-01-2010, 01:42 PM   #41
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:46 PM   #42
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At the time that it happened i was like 'wtf', so nothings changed there for me, surprises are good in wrestling but i'm not sure where swagger can go from here.
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:53 PM   #43
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:55 PM   #44
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Old 04-01-2010, 03:05 PM   #45
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Old 04-01-2010, 03:21 PM   #46
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dude you are 'rammsteinmad'!!! you are either

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but im guessing you are all three. Jump up your ass hitler boy
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Old 04-01-2010, 09:19 PM   #47
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The entire point of the IWC is to dissect everything that happens and then debate whether or not it's good or bad for the business. It's a step beyond just watching the product and either enjoying it or not enjoying.

It's talking about it in such a way that makes the IWC seem like it in itself is a part of the product. Rule #1 of the IWC is that because you've been a wrestling fan for "x" number of years, you know the business so your opinions on what is good and bad, not just in terms of entertainment but in terms of the right business move, is valid. The IWC pretty much fools itself into being "smart" or "insider", which in the end, kinda makes them the biggest marks among wrestling fans.
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Old 04-02-2010, 03:32 AM   #48
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Yeah, gotta agree with redoneja. There are a hundred possible reasons Swagger could be World Heavyweight Champion right now when John Morrison or Christian isn't. We can't really speculate. From an entertainment standpoint, we can criticise -- and it's fun to speculate about what would be better creatively, and even from a business perspective. But we don't know. That's something we have to keep in mind.

What I do know about Jack Swagger:

* Bret Hart is apparently high on him. Now, while Bret probably was only back for his on-screen stuff; I think Bret Hart being high on a dude is a good sign for him. Maybe this happened, and maybe it did not -- but I could imagine someone asking Bret "Hey man, who do you like out of the young guys?" "Jack Swagger's amazing," "Interesting. We'll look into pushing him."

* Swagger recently wrestled Triple H in what was actually a match with some decent time on it. Triple H only wrestles long matches when he wants to -- let's face it. He wanted to against Swagger. Could have been sizing him up as a talent. If he went to Vince and said "Man, Swagger is incredible. He protected me well in the ring, and the crowd were into everything. I think this guy could be someone, Dad," Vince would probably listen.

* John Cena and Jack Swagger have worked together on the house show circuit pretty extensively. In a similar situation to the Swagger/Triple H stuff -- if Cena put in a good review of Swagger's work, Vince would listen.

* Jim Ross and Gerald Brisco apparently discovered him. Brisco would have some pull backstage and JR's opinions on talent are well-respected.
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Old 04-02-2010, 03:56 AM   #49
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lol @ people taking Swagger's title win as a snub to guys like Morrison or Christian
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Old 04-02-2010, 04:56 AM   #50
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Swagger winning sets up a huge feud with Kurt angle when TNA eventually folds and Angle comes crawling back to Vince.
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Old 04-02-2010, 05:43 AM   #51
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lol @ people taking Swagger's title win as a snub to guys like Morrison or Christian
Exactly. It'd be more about Swagger than Christian or Morrison.
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Old 04-02-2010, 06:47 AM   #52
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actually the season before that, he was cut at the initial open call...ivory asked him to do a spinaroony and he said what was that? they chewed him out and told him what it was then, he went on and did it b-boy style.

i may be wrong but i remember seeing it. maybe it was the same season but i doubt it. i remember when they came to deliberate, booker was tight that he was trying get into wwe but didnt even know what a spinaroony was and said maybe next year.
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