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Old 04-11-2010, 02:48 AM   #41
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the Edgar/Penn fight could have been better.... what really pissed me off was the Silva fight...not as much as Dana White was pissed but still pissed off
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The most likely guy for beating Anderson Silva is Vitor Belfort at 185.

There’s no chance that the UFC would risk George St. Pierre being clowned on like that for five rounds, so that fight is off the cards.
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GSP would not get "clowned" by Silva.
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nope, havent met since....but they both talk about fighting each other every now and then. That'd be instant $$$ for the UFC, and a killer fight. Im a huge Kenflo fan, and im curious to see how Diego adjusts his game (if at all) after his ass whoopin' by BJ.
Diego moved back up to Welterweight... He's not going to fight Florian.
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Silva seemed disinterested. Now he'll be motivated for his next fight.

Loved Edgar beating Penn. Penn fought like a true shithead, not going for a takedown after he was was told to by his corner. He could have easily won that fight, but he is a total shithead, as previously stated. Franky Edgar is plain and simply a work horse. Not going to be too flashy of a champion or much of a draw, but he's a good representative of the sport (unlike BJ who up until very recently was a complete asshat.)
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Frankie Edgar feels like a Rocky balboa type of fighter. He's gonna have some solid matchups coming up. I'd love to see Diego reconsider and take on Edgar for the lightweight strap.
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And I don't know how, but This shitface assclown Silva should be buried as much as you can be buried in MMA. I mean he has turned insta heel for Dana. So people will pay to see him get his ass handed to him now, that has to be good. Id make this mother fucker fight on such a short notice it would make me seem like the cruelest possible sonofabitch alive. He'd have like 3 more defenses/fights in 2010.
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So what's the problem with Silva?
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lol at people being angsty at Silva.

He was being abit of a tool, but was still entertaining. Also Edgar V Penn was a pretty solid fight, nothing fancy, but a competitive match. Can't believe how many people think that the fight was shit.

Also it will be interesting to see if Penn did in fact have an injury to his knee/leg or not.
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Frankie Edgar feels like a Rocky balboa type of fighter. He's gonna have some solid matchups coming up. I'd love to see Diego reconsider and take on Edgar for the lightweight strap.
Everybody keeps saying they wanna see Sanchez/Florian or Sanchez/Edgar. Did nobody see the beat down Penn laid on Sanchez like three months ago? He didn't look anything like a champion, or even someone who should be fighting a contender like Florian. I may have been exagerating when I called Florian overrated, but Sanchez IS overrated.

Sanchez is going to move up to 170 and get destroyed by Swick or Kosckeck.
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lol at people being angsty at Silva.

He was being abit of a tool, but was still entertaining. Also Edgar V Penn was a pretty solid fight, nothing fancy, but a competitive match. Can't believe how many people think that the fight was shit.

Also it will be interesting to see if Penn did in fact have an injury to his knee/leg or not.
he was entertaining the first two rounds... he ran like kaleb starns the other three
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Old 04-11-2010, 03:31 PM   #52
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Dana White "embarassed" with UFC 112 main event, promises to "make it up" to fans
by John Morgan on Apr 11, 2010 at 1:30 pm ET
The story of Saturday's "UFC 112: Invincible" event should have been Frankie Edgar's historic upset of B.J. Penn, but Anderson Silva's early showboating, followed by an absolute refusal to engage his opponent in the latter rounds, ruined "The Answer's" chance of being the night's hot topic.

UFC president Dana White did little to hide his disgust for his middleweight champion's latest performance – both at cageside, which he left before the fight was over, and in the evening's post-fight press conference.

But White stood firm in the line of fire and owned up to his company's failure to deliver fireworks in Abu Dhabi, and he swore he'd make the night up to UFC fans.

"This was a historic event for us," White said. "The arena tonight was incredible. The energy was amazing, and to end it the way that we did was an embarrassment for me, the Fertittas, the UFC and the sport in general.

"I apologize, and I will – I don't know how yet – but I will make this up to the fans who bought this [expletive] tonight."

Silva dominated opponent Demian Maia for five rounds, but the action was hardly worthy of the champion's reputation as one of the world's best fighters. But while Silva's late passivity was indefensible, some fans didn't mind the early antics.

White was not among them.

"I didn't like it from the first minute of the first round," White said. "Nobody has been more supportive of Anderson Silva than me – talking about him being the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. Even after a couple of goofy performances, I'll call them, I still stood behind him and supported him.

"I think this guy is incredibly talented, and in the first couple of rounds, he was showboating and doing whatever he was doing, and that's not what I'm in to. I don't like it. If you're that talented, be Mike Tyson. Go in and finish it in two minutes."

While some MMA observers have argued that Silva's early antics were a result of the Brazilian simply trying to entertain, White argued that he'd rather his fighters focus on finishing fights.

"I'd rather have somebody say, 'Let's not buy the Anderson Silva fight tonight because he knocks people out in two minutes,' rather than, 'He runs around like a jackass for five rounds,'" White said.

Immediately following the fight, the latest in a string of disappointing performances from Silva that also includes ho-hum wins over Thales Leites and Patrick Cote, many began to question the champion's place on the list of the world's best pound-for-pound fighters. White refused to question Silva's talent, but he was honest about his concerns.

"As mad as I am right now, he's one of the most talented guys in the business," White said. "I don't know what I'm going to do to him right now. I don't know. I honestly don't know what to say. I'm so blown away and disgusted and saddened."

White's frustration was palpable throughout the press conference, and he'll have a challenge with future operations as Silva's performance further marred the reputation of a fighter that has the ability to entertain all fans – both casual and hardcore.

But putting Silva in a future main event would almost certainly spell pay-per-view disaster, and White didn't shy away from that reality.

"Anderson Silva might be the first champion in history fighting on a prelim," White said. "How do you sell Anderson Silva after tonight? How do you do it? People don't want to see that [expletive]. I don't want to see it.

"It makes me sick to my stomach."

Fans who spent $45 to watch the latest Silva oddity have been quick to point fingers. A reporter at the evening's press conference even asked if the UFC's new partner, Flash Entertainment, was to blame for Silva's behavior.

White said he would have a private conversation with Silva to determine who was responsible and how it would be fixed moving forward. In the meantime, the UFC exec said he would figure out a way to set things straight with the people that matter most.

"I'm going to make it up to the fans – that I guarantee you," White said. "I just don't know how yet."

For complete coverage of UFC 112, including the night's official results, check out the UFC Events section of MMAjunkie.com.
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What did Anderson Silva say during last night's controversial UFC 112 main event that even has Silva's fellow countrymen turning their backs on the middleweight champion?

The MMA community is still reeling from the bizarre behavior of Anderson Silva in the main event of UFC 112. Word came out after the the fight from Demian Maia stating that he was disrespected and cursed at. Maia opted not to expand on this, but a new article on the Fighters Only Magazine Website sheds light on this.

Fans of Silva's native Brazil heard what Silva was speaking during the fight last night in Portuguese. Silva used terms against Maia that were very hateful and disrespectful that have made Silva infamous now in his home country.

MMA message forums in the Portuguese language have been talking about Silva's insults against Maia during the fight. Toward the end of the second round, Silva allegedly stated in Portuguese, "Bate na minha cara playboy." This is apparently translated into English as "Come on, hit me in the face playboy."

"Playboy" is actually is a tremendous insult in Brazil because of the class divisions in the country between rich and poor. In Brazil, playboys are hedonistic rich people that are pampered and care nothing for poor people and know nothing about actual life.

Silva also is said to have stated "Cade o Jiu-Jitsu?" or in English, "Where is your Jiu-Jitsu?"

When Maia could not get Silva to the floor, Silva is said to have shouted "Get up off your ass and get hit some more."

The tone of Brazilian MMA forums right now is that many fans are shocked and disappointed by Anderson with his performance and comments.

A poster that goes by the handle of Gomes on the Portal do Vale Tudo stated the following:

"Wow, the guy went mad. American are usually super socially-conscious with this kind of discrimination, when they discover what he said, heads will fly. This guy has lost all notion of what you can do in a fight. This type of social/personal insult is the equivalent of ‘Iron' Mike Tyson saying 'I'll f*ck until you love me, bitch!'"
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yknow, Dana White can be a douche, but he does has a point...if youre that good, dont show boat, knock a F*cker out, yknow? Look at the Penn/Sanchez fight...Penn clearly won that, but Penn tried finishing him the entire time...he didnt just take a lead on the judges cards and protect it, he took the risk of getting caught, in the name of knocking him out.


Thats what great fighters do.
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I've totally done a 180 with Silva and am loving him right now. The guy can do whatever the hell he wants in my opinion. He's the best fighter in the world and if he wants to embarass you, he will. He gets that right.
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I hope they feed him to GSP now. I'm 100% positive GSP would smash this guy. GSP is a true war machine.
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I'm watching the fight now with Maia and it's hillarious. Silva doesn't even guard his face half the time, he stops to scratch his nose like a foot away from him and he's doing his No Mercy N64 Taunts right in front of him. Like come on, is this for real????
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Can somebody post the silva fight, I need to see this.
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Silva should be forced to fight a break neck schedule since the schedule he's fighting at isn't challeging enough for him. I'd make that cunt run the gauntlet. Catchweight fights, Title Defenses, the whole fucking nine. If he has a problem with fighting four five more fights this calendar year, then fuck him, he can quit.

EDIT: Of course, this will be done at serverly reduced salary. I hated Roy Jones Junior for taking decisions instead of finishing fights. This is the pussiest thing I've seen in a long time.
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im sure the first thing dana wants to happen is to force silva to do something he doesnt want to which would force him to leave and get picked up by strikeforce
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im sure the first thing dana wants to happen is to force silva to do something he doesnt want to which would force him to leave and get picked up by strikeforce
I totally get that logic that you don't want such a draw going to another promotion... but at what point does one fighter, no matter how talented, become more important than a promotion?

Besides, can Strikeforce even match paydays with UFC? and if Silva is about the competition, can Strikeforce produce that from top to bottom? As much as Silva is the 'best fighter in the world', UFC is the best promotion, there has to be some pushback from White
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Watching Maia in this fight is like watching one of those youtube videos that just keeps looping for half an hour.

Unreal.
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yknow, Dana White can be a douche, but he does has a point...if youre that good, dont show boat, knock a F*cker out, yknow? Look at the Penn/Sanchez fight...Penn clearly won that, but Penn tried finishing him the entire time...he didnt just take a lead on the judges cards and protect it, he took the risk of getting caught, in the name of knocking him out.


Thats what great fighters do.
There could possibly be people that told him not to finish the fight so quick and be as entertaining as he could but he took it a little too far since it was the first show in a place like Dubai and was important to the company.
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I totally get that logic that you don't want such a draw going to another promotion... but at what point does one fighter, no matter how talented, become more important than a promotion?

Besides, can Strikeforce even match paydays with UFC? and if Silva is about the competition, can Strikeforce produce that from top to bottom? As much as Silva is the 'best fighter in the world', UFC is the best promotion, there has to be some pushback from White
Yes they can considering silva isnt exactly making millions. The competition may not be there, but that argument only holds water if silva is in fact playing to his competition. (an argument dana white started not anderson) And if they really wanted to push him, they could get guys or send him to japan (which would solve any pay problems considering fighters make bank when they fight in japan). Not to mention strikeforce would let silva box and do whatever else he wanted.
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No bullshit, thanks for the enlightenment Reavant.
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Give him Rampage on Spike TV
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If they want him to perform, give him guys who'll take the fight to him, not Thales Leites and Demian Maia. Now I'm not sayin Silva isn't to blame, he was being a total knobhead... but what the hell did Dana expect after the Leites fights. Silva is an oddity and he doesn't like fighting guys he feels are well below him and are either very low level strikers/bangers (Cote) or pure grapplers (Maia/Leites). Give him top quaility hombres, and we'll see a better Silva. Give him Chael Sonnen who'll work tirelessly to take him down, give him Rampage Jackson, give him Shogun motherfucking Rua... I don't care.... but make it a fight he could ACTUALLY fucking lose so he fights with a semblance of urgency.

Don't one hundred per cent blame the fighter for absolutely atrocious matchmaking.
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PS. I realize those dudes were tied up for this fight... however, there had to be someone more suitable than Demian Maia. That's what you get for letting Hendo go to Strikeforce you fuckwits.
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I think Silva would cave his face in
Are you serious? GSP would shoot, and Silva would go down, this isnt Maia shooting, this is fucking GSP the best wrestler in MMA, oh yeah, and he's been in karate since he was a child, so it's not like he's a chump on his feet, and is atleast good enough there to avoid getting hit by Silva. What does Silva do once he is down and mounted, I know he choked out Handerson, but Henderson isn't as good on the ground as GSP, and he was also like 39, so he'd seen better days.
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PPV was okay. Which is disappointing as I was looking forward to this one for a while now. Frankie def brought it to Bj Penn and deserved to take the title from him. Anderson really wasn't into this fight at all, and I don't blame him. Maia with all due respect just isn't in Silva's league. Was pissed off that Anderson refused to finish Maia, as he could've easily done so at any time.

Silva would knock GSP out before he had a chance to shoot. There is no avoiding Anderson's strikes his accuracy is almost perfect.
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Are you serious? GSP would shoot, and Silva would go down, this isnt Maia shooting, this is fucking GSP the best wrestler in MMA, oh yeah, and he's been in karate since he was a child, so it's not like he's a chump on his feet, and is atleast good enough there to avoid getting hit by Silva. What does Silva do once he is down and mounted, I know he choked out Handerson, but Henderson isn't as good on the ground as GSP, and he was also like 39, so he'd seen better days.
this was my post in the other thread..


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And dont get too caught up in saying GSP would take him down easily, because ALL of GSP's takedowns come from his opponents being off balance in the sense he cuts under them when they come after him. Thats basically what anderson does with striking.

Basically, we would see two guys looking at each other waiting for the other to engage. However, once GSP heard the boos, he would engage and would then get hurt.
GSP is not the best wrestler in mma, hes the best athlete. he mixes everything together perfectly. makes you think he will strike and cuts under you on the return. makes you think he will wrestle and tags you on the feet. if he were just diving in for strait takedowns he wouldnt have much more success in all his fights that maia did against silva. to further this point, look at the two ncaa champion wrestlers that fought earlier on the card and how they had trouble taking people down because they were diving for legs.

also he choked out henderson because he had him knocked out not because he outclassed him.
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It just looks like he came from Auschwitz. I just don't think he's as great as some say he is.
Pretty fuckin' stupid answer.

Actually, he looks like Ben Stiller, but he is, hands down, among the very best at 155.

You know nothing of Florian's work.
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Honestly, I was scratching my head at the matchmaking regarding Silva v. Maia. My understanding at the Maia/Marquardt fight (in which Maia was UPENDED) was that the winner would be the #1 contender. Then Marquardt gets Sonnen and Maia gets a title shot?
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Because Sonnen beat Marquardt, and Sonnen/Marquardt/Belfort were unable to fight due to injuries, and Demian was the highest ranked opponent available.
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Because Sonnen beat Marquardt, and Sonnen/Marquardt/Belfort were unable to fight due to injuries, and Demian was the highest ranked opponent available.
thank you, sir.
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This is what Dana White and the UFC should be appologizing for:

UFC 112 in general. i mean, it was a shitty card. and they've been putting on a lot of shitty fight cards lately. a lot of people will say, "yeah, well, they're following a business model that calls for them to pump out as many PPVs as possible." that really shouldnt make you happy. that's like judging the merits of a motion picture by how well it does at the box office.

they do more than one PPV per month. instead of 1 great card in the month of May, we get two mediocre to pretty good cards. and on and on it goes like this. the fight cards are getting to be pretty damned watered down IMO. congradulations to the UFC for the fact that they can put out such a big number of events, but personally, i'd be happier with half the number of PPVs.
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