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Old 05-15-2010, 08:27 PM   #41
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Because we have so much say in what Vince does.
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Old 05-15-2010, 08:36 PM   #42
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Old 05-16-2010, 01:05 AM   #45
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Would seem more like a tweener kind of action, but Show is obviously meant to be a full-fledged face.
I don't really feel like Show's supposed to be a full fledged face. What's he really done as a face? Punched a few people in the head? So they've all been heels lately, that doesn't necessarily mean he's a face now.
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I'm enjoyed Big Show's face turn. I don't see the big problem with it. I mean, yeah destroying stuff is pretty dickish, but faces do that all the time. It's pretty much like how you'll have an obsessive collector of something get his stuff destroyed or handled by a clumsy man-child or detective looking for answers in a movie. It's meant to be "cool" or "funny" when a guy destroys stuff. Kofi Kingston recently did it to Randy Orton's car. Didn't make him a heel.

Show is also really fucking over. A lot of that is probably because the fans hate Swagger, but regardless -- this angle is working. Also, Show destroying Swagger's trophies represented a pretty clear message: Sure, Jack -- you're a freak of nature when it comes to winning. But I am a freak of nature.
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Old 05-16-2010, 02:09 AM   #48
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Because we have so much say in what Vince does.
Or maybe because 'we' and Vince like the same guy, for different reasons? To reiterate what I was saying and KK was implying.

Vince stereotypically likes Big Guys

'We' stereotypically like Guys who can work and talk.

Jack Swagger is a Big Guy who can work and talk.
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Jack Swagger is a Big Guy who can work and talk.
This statement is completely wrong, but okay.
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Old 05-16-2010, 09:13 AM   #51
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This statement is completely wrong, but okay.
What exactly about the statement "Swagger can work and talk" do you have a particular problem with? It seems that statement is easily supportable. Wondering what your gripe is.
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What exactly about the statement "Swagger can work and talk" do you have a particular problem with? It seems that statement is easily supportable. Wondering what your gripe is.
He can't really do either, that's my statement.
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He can't really do either, that's my statement.
So, you're basically just trying to be obnoxious then? Because you aren't explaining why you think this and your claim is easily refutable. Don't let me ruin your fun then. Troll on.
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Because Vince is racist and Sheamus was the only guy whiter than Cena. (Only by a little)
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That's only because for a time early in his career Cena was actually allowed to showcase his freestyle rapping ability. I doubt if Sheamus could even put together a semi-coherent limerick.
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I'm sold on Jack Swagger. A complete turn around for me. When they let Swagger when the MITB at 'Mania, I thought it was a huge mistake. I will gladly admit I was wrong. Swagger has great mic skills, great charisma, and the gimmick he has going for him is one of the most entertaining I've seen in awhile. Two thumbs up for "The Swaggie"
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I'm sold on Jack Swagger. A complete turn around for me. When they let Swagger when the MITB at 'Mania, I thought it was a huge mistake. I will gladly admit I was wrong. Swagger has great mic skills, great charisma, and the gimmick he has going for him is one of the most entertaining I've seen in awhile. Two thumbs up for "The Swaggie"
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It's evident to me now after watching this past week's episode of SD this is the way they should have been building Swagger leading up to a WHC reign not the other way around.
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It's evident to me now after watching this past week's episode of SD this is the way they should have been building Swagger leading up to a WHC reign not the other way around.
It wouldn't have worked the same. I can't imagine him coming out, talking about all of his achievements. Then saying, "Now give me a title shot". It's working for him the way it's going right now.
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Old 05-17-2010, 12:45 PM   #72
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It wouldn't have worked the same. I can't imagine him coming out, talking about all of his achievements. Then saying, "Now give me a title shot". It's working for him the way it's going right now.
Meant this provided him becoming the #1 rather than winning MITB.
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:20 AM   #73
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Swagger was hilarious in that trophy promo. Big Show was entertaining, too. I'm actually looking forward to YouTubing their match. Current plans have Swagger and The Undertaker rumoured to be opponents at SummerSlam. I would love to see that, actually. Swagger beating Big Show would help further legitimise him, and then he can scrape out with a title defense at Fatal Four Way. Cue another bout at Money in the Bank, and then Taker.

After that, it's Night of Champions, and they can do some sort of Championship Scramble where Swagger can again retain. Hell in a Cell against Taker, where he goes over huge, and then Survivor Series could feature him captaining a team against a face, then a TLC against that face (or possibly several top SmackDown! stars). Then it's time for a new year.

Swagger could go the distance with this title reign.
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Old 05-19-2010, 11:16 AM   #74
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Swagger could go the distance with this title reign.
That would be great but that's not gonna happen. I would be surprised if he's still champ in two months. This is the E we are talking about.
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True, but for some reason I'm getting JBL vibes from him. Also, the heat Swagger is getting is really rare. It's Vickie Guerrero level stuff. I could see Vince wanting to keep Swagger champ for as long as possible just for the fucking hell of it.
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True, but for some reason I'm getting JBL vibes from him. Also, the heat Swagger is getting is really rare. It's Vickie Guerrero level stuff. I could see Vince wanting to keep Swagger champ for as long as possible just for the fucking hell of it.
except Vickie gets heat because she's a fat smelly cunt eye sore with an annoying ass voice. She is the Roseanne Barr of professional wrestling.
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She entertains me. Not so much with Simply Flawless. I prefer her as the "brilliant mind" heel GM. Truthfully, I'd like to see Vince fire Teddy, and Vickie take over the position full-time, while Teddy begins to manage someone who needs it. He's a good talker, but MVP comes to mind for some reason.
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Old 05-20-2010, 11:34 AM   #78
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When you're getting reactions that massive, it looks astounding on television, and probably doesn't matter "what kind" of heat it is tbh.
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Exactly. If you're presented as a top heel, anyway. When you're meant to be the hero of the company it's a bit different...
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