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Old 05-27-2010, 09:23 PM   #41
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To me that's the same thing only 7 years earlier. Warrior was the fresher star by far and a new commodity
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:25 PM   #42
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It may as well have happened though, since Warrior ultimately went nowhere after that because of his bullshit, and within a matter of months Hogan was right back where he was going into that match.
By Wrestlemania 7 he was the top guy by a mile again. He basically passed the torch and got it back before anyone even knew it happened.
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It's semantics. What I'm saying is that Cena is an established star here to the point that he does not need anything of this caliber as a face, and the way they'd end the streak (and make it work) would likely be totally unacceptable.
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He'd probably use duct tape.
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It's semantics. What I'm saying is that Cena is an established star here to the point that he does not need anything of this caliber as a face, and the way they'd end the streak (and make it work) would likely be totally unacceptable.
He doesn't need it, but what I'm saying is that personally I would see it as creatively rewarding, which to me is far more worth it than pegging it on some up and comer.
That's because I honestly think it'd be more of a curse than a gift to someone who isn't very established though.
I don't think anyone needs it. That's why it's better left intact, but I'd rather see it go to a peer than a rookie.
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:32 PM   #46
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And I'm not saying Cena is a peer to The Undertaker as a performer or anything, just to clarify. Just in terms of other things. They're both top guys
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:35 PM   #47
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Even someone as awesome and relatively established as Punk snapping the streak would be dangerous, I think.
He's great, but he'd probably stop being CM Punk and start being "that guy who broke Undertaker's streak" almost overnight, in the eyes of people who don't watch the product weekly and future generations.
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I agree on the Punk assessment. I just don't see anyone who, in the long run, could use it. Either they're to the point where it'd get lost in the shuffle (Hunter, Cena), not on the level of being a threat to Taker (Orton, Kane, Jericho) or too risky (Punk, Orton [injury prone], laundry list of other guys).

To me, there's no one really worthy of ending it in WWE right now and very, VERY few who could POSSIBLY step up within two years to that level.
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:44 PM   #49
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The ROCK can return and DO IT.. Or Steve Austin.


HOW ABOUT MICK FOLEY OR KURT ANGLE?
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:46 PM   #50
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I agree on the Punk assessment. I just don't see anyone who, in the long run, could use it. Either they're to the point where it'd get lost in the shuffle (Hunter, Cena), not on the level of being a threat to Taker (Orton, Kane, Jericho) or too risky (Punk, Orton [injury prone], laundry list of other guys).

To me, there's no one really worthy of ending it in WWE right now and very, VERY few who could POSSIBLY step up within two years to that level.

Well then we're in overall agreement, because I don't think anyone in the current scene or forseeable future should snap it. Even if there was I'd probably rather them not.
We just differ on what we think should happen IF it happens, which hopefully doesn't have to come up beyond our hypothetical
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Jericho would actually be the perfect interlude between Michaels and Cena.

Cena should be Taker's 20th (and final) victory. Jericho would have an awesome match with Taker in the mean time.
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One of the big advantages of turning him heel (in fact probably the biggest) is to reinvent and refresh his character. And who is it a slap in the face of? The IWC? Taker himself? I doubt it.

And I don't think Cena would have to be a heel at all. The crowd shitting on him over Taker would fit perfectly into the angle since the main basis for his eventual turn should simply be 'I bust my ass for you, you still boo me'. I'm not seeing what money Vince McMahon can make from The Undertaker retiring having never been beaten at WrestleMania. I see big $$$ in John Cena turning heel and ending the streak.
There's no need to turn Cena heel. Him getting booed by the live audience has not affected business at all and he's still WWE's biggest draw.
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Old 05-28-2010, 12:08 AM   #53
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This thread seems awful familiay I agree that Jericho should face Taker at WM28 and then face Cena at WM29 or vice versa is fine too but Cena has the better record afterall.
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Old 05-28-2010, 02:35 AM   #54
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Im regards to Kane facing Undertaker, to be honest I really wouldn't care about this as I really don't care about Kane anymore, UNLESS, they can do this in a realistic, worked-shoot kinda way. I dunno, have Kane be all like:

"My whole career, I've been a second-rate Undertaker clone, whilst Mark has always gone and got all the glory, I've been stuck with this lame 'burned brother' gimmick!"

I dunno, I just don't care about Kane anymore, and he's jobbed to so many people, the idea of him beating Undertaker is a joke, unless they introduce this more realistic approach to it.
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I don't think that ANYONE, realistically, is a threat to the streak outside of Cena. Kane could never get back to what he was when he was at his peak after all they've done to the character. Putting the mask back on is just a spritz of warter on a soiled pair of underwear that was lit ablaze.

At least Jericho could make the feud entertaining, as could someone like Punk.

Punk would actually be a great one if they worked with it by having Punk call Taker on his mind games being his drug etc etc. Still fantasizing about Taker being crucified on the Straight Edge symbol.

I'm of the opinion that Taker has two more Manias, and is leaving after 20 Manias. Whether he wins or loses the 20th is up in the air (I'd rather him not obviously). But that 20th has to be against Cena, only because Cena is the biggest thing they will have in two years.

Hunter is another one, and would be an amazing match, especially with the story behind it. Now that I think about it, he and Cena are really the last two left. I still think Cena would be the bigger of the two in terms of draw, but the story would be much more interesting.
Yup gotta go with this... Cena is the lovechild that is Hogan /Rock/Austin TO VINCE in his head... Obviously...

Jericho & Punk would be insanely entertaining but we all know that ain't happening... Jericho a close possible 2nd... I think it will inevitably be Cena/Taker to end the Deadman's career... Do I think Taker will lose... After the great build up of this past years WM... Who knows if it stays intact...
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Hopefully the writers are this logical when trying to answer this question themselves. I would think maybe a triple threat match next year since he won't have to do so much work and still look good at WM. He might not even make it to 20-0.

This would be a good chance for John Morrison to get a good feud under his belt and take Taker to the limit like Orton did.

That pairing seems odd after typing it down...
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I know they've already had one feud, but Taker vs. CM Punk at Mania would be so easy to book, and you're almost guaranteed to get a good one out of it. Plus, this current incarnation of Punk has evolved quite a bit from the one that the Undertaker faced in their previous encounter.
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Currently, the only people I can see worth putting against Taker at Mania are CM Punk, Edge, Orton, Jericho, Batista and Triple H. And those are essentially all rehashes save for Punk and Jericho. Also you have to think that at this stage of his career, the Undertaker will want the best matches possible for him at Mania; anyone suggesting that he face a midcard guy like Dibiase/Kingston/Morrison isn't thinking straight. Problem is, all the current options for the Undertaker are been there/done that.

It'll either be Taker vs. Jericho, Taker vs. Punk, or maybe he'll be involved in some sort of gimmick match (Triple Threat/Fatal Four Way).

Also fuck John Cena. That is all.
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jericho wil be a ryt choice..

but i rather choose john cena.. it a better way to make cena a heal.. besides! cena is victorious in wrestlemania since on his debut at WXX except W24.. i would love to see that match on W27 vs taker streak.. maybe they can do it a submission match.. since cena never quit! and no one in history that make undertkaer tap out!

hir are some matches that i want to see at WM27..

undertaker vs john cena submission match (or vs goldberg undeafed and mania vs undefeated in single matches)

HHH vs HBK (i would love to see HBK back at WM vs on his buddy HHH)
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:11 AM   #63
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Honestly?

I feel it's going to be Glen Jacobs, KANE!

The "brothers" have gone through alot and I feel that Kane will retire The Undertaker in some capacity next Wrestlemania. It's going from Flair, to HBK, to Undertaker...

I think that Kane will get a huge push in the fall so they can build it up and make it EPIC.

I only seeing this being the case due to their past history. Maybe Paul Bearer will come out with Kane too.
didn't Jacobs say he had no interest in Kane ending "The Streak?"
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jericho wil be a ryt choice..

but i rather choose john cena.. it a better way to make cena a heal.. besides! cena is victorious in wrestlemania since on his debut at WXX except W24.. i would love to see that match on W27 vs taker streak.. maybe they can do it a submission match.. since cena never quit! and no one in history that make undertkaer tap out!

hir are some matches that i want to see at WM27..

undertaker vs john cena submission match (or vs goldberg undeafed and mania vs undefeated in single matches)

HHH vs HBK (i would love to see HBK back at WM vs on his buddy HHH)
I think your keyboard's broken. No worries, I got what you said.

Cena is, I think, 5-1 at Wrestlemania and I'm sure he's submitted early enough in his career.
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I feel like the best way to establish a mania threat against Taker, is have the guy who's gonna face him at mania, go over him, strong and clean a few months before and play off that big time.
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Even later in his career, Cena tapped to the Ankle Lock on numerous occasions i'm pretty sure.
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I would put Taker in a handicap matchagainst several of his past Mania opponents, and have them organize it as "We couldnt beat them alone so we will beat him together!"
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While we're thinking of terrible ideas, maybe some famous celebrity could "piss off" Taker and they could have it out at Mania!
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I hear Simon Cowell has some free time.
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Undertaker's Winning Streak versus Scott Hall's alcohol streak
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While we're thinking of terrible ideas, maybe some famous celebrity could "piss off" Taker and they could have it out at Mania!
Hogan could end Taker's streak. I mean, I know it isn't 1994 or anything but...
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Casket of Ale match

I pretty much agree that not many people are a credible threat to ending the streak anymore. That said, with the Hall of Fame rumours about Goldberg there's always that incredibly slight chance they could throw that one at us next year. They would obviously need Goldberg to come back and squash the midcard during the build up so newer fans know who he is, which would do nothing for anybody in the long run.

I wouldn't like to see it personally, but both guys are famous for their streaks so it would make sense in theory. If I had to pick anyone I would say Jericho.
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Not gonna happen but since Mania is in Atlanta, Sting vs Taker would be amazing.
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