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Old 06-11-2010, 04:03 PM   #1
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At this point they just want anyone to tune in. I don't think they are thinking far enough ahead to worry about whether they piss them off or not.
They should promise free Ice Cream if it means getting people to watch Impact now. Honestly, interest was never very high, but ever since the move back to thursdays with their tail between their legs, it just seems like they've crawled under the porch to die.
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Old 06-11-2010, 04:09 PM   #2
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At this point they just want anyone to tune in. I don't think they are thinking far enough ahead to worry about whether they piss them off or not.
They should promise free Ice Cream if it means getting people to watch Impact now. Honestly, interest was never very high, but ever since the move back to thursdays with their tail between their legs, it just seems like they've crawled under the porch to die.
Agreed. I watched a majority of the first Monday night in Jan when Bret/Orton weren't on RAW. I would occasionally tune in when they were ORIGINALLY on Thursdays and Mondays and every so often would be entertained/interested by something. Slowly though, the Monday night shows went down hill and I stopped watching altogther. I know I haven't watched AT ALL since they moved BACK to Thursdays.
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Old 06-11-2010, 04:06 PM   #3
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It goes back to my building suspense thread. Instead of thinking of the now, they should be building to a month, two months, six months, a year from now. If done right, they would gradually increase viewership purely on a steady increase of awesomeness.

Instead it's "NOW NOW NOW WE NEED TO DO THIS THIS THIS THIS AND THIS WITHIN THE NEXT TWO HOURS" when, realistically, it should be spread out over a month.
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It goes back to my building suspense thread. Instead of thinking of the now, they should be building to a month, two months, six months, a year from now. If done right, they would gradually increase viewership purely on a steady increase of awesomeness.

Instead it's "NOW NOW NOW WE NEED TO DO THIS THIS THIS THIS AND THIS WITHIN THE NEXT TWO HOURS" when, realistically, it should be spread out over a month.
I believe they call that panicking.
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Old 06-11-2010, 04:17 PM   #5
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It goes back to my building suspense thread. Instead of thinking of the now, they should be building to a month, two months, six months, a year from now. If done right, they would gradually increase viewership purely on a steady increase of awesomeness.

Instead it's "NOW NOW NOW WE NEED TO DO THIS THIS THIS THIS AND THIS WITHIN THE NEXT TWO HOURS" when, realistically, it should be spread out over a month.
If I may expand apon this thought. Also, you know what a real surprise is? Not even telling me there is going to be a surprise.

Hearing "WAIT TILL YOU SEE THIS SHOCKING TURN OF EVENTS AT SLAMFEST 2010, IT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND," sets up a sense of this needs to be huge and game changing, and by this point, nothing they can do short of the immossible like bringing out HHH and Shane McMahon would do that, or killing a guy.

They need to learn from nWo, instead of trying to copy nWo. You know what made nWo great? One day Scott Hall just shows up and says "You know who I am, but you don't know why I'm here," then declares war on WCW. That is a real surprise.
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Old 06-11-2010, 04:11 PM   #6
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Honestly, I was watching it more on Mondays than I am now. Though that was more because I was in chat and it was something to talk about than the show being good.
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Old 06-11-2010, 04:13 PM   #7
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TNA Survivor - every week someone gets fired off the show until either they start making money or they fire everyone.
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Old 06-11-2010, 04:15 PM   #8
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They call it "we're going to try to compete with WWE for no real reason".

Let's face it, for at least the past four years they've been trying to compete with WWE. Instead of worrying about what WWE is doing they should look at themselves and try to better their own product.

The biggest mistake was when they shifted from the more indy-style wrestling to more full-on Sports Entertainment. That's the mistake that's the root of all of TNA's problems. Not Hogan, not Bischoff, not Russo, but the direction of the company as a whole.
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Old 06-11-2010, 04:20 PM   #9
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Hell TNA debuted Angle right. He just came out and head butted Samoa Joe. That is a debut. When you hype a debut, it is almost always lack luster.
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Old 06-11-2010, 04:22 PM   #10
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Well, technically they did that video package before Angle debuted...
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Oh yeah.

But anyhow my point is TNA has mastered the art of ruining their own surprises.
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Old 06-11-2010, 04:27 PM   #12
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It is bad when I don't even need to watch TNA and still know everything they are doing wrong.
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Yes they have.

The internet is ruining TNA. But not in a "the IWC ruined wrestling" way but in a "TNA is ruining themselves by being online" way.

TNA is an example in how you DON'T take a company online and integrate the community into the business.

WWE got it right. TNA are fucking idiots.
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I would probably die from laughter if it turns out to be Lex Luger/Macho Man.
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I still don't really understand how TNA is making money.
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I still don't really understand how TNA is making money.
Same here.
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Honestly, TNA has to learn how to keep kayfabe properly. WWE has done it when it comes to the internet. Kayfabe is alive and well in the WWE Universe. There's enough "just inside the circle" integration to make it seem like they're open about everything when in reality it's like it's a natural modern day extension of kayfabe.

TNA needs to learn to shut the fuck up and that sometimes fan involvement and social media are bad for your company. They're too transparent and rely on word of mouth in the wrong way.
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Honestly, TNA has to learn how to keep kayfabe properly. WWE has done it when it comes to the internet. Kayfabe is alive and well in the WWE Universe. There's enough "just inside the circle" integration to make it seem like they're open about everything when in reality it's like it's a natural moder day extension of kayfabe.

TNA needs to learn to shut the fuck up and that sometimes fan involvement and social media are bad for your company. They're too transparent and rely on word of mouth in the wrong way.
Surprised TNA doesn't just post the results for the next few weeks of tapes on the website.
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Why would they bring Macho Man back again?
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Old 06-11-2010, 04:48 PM   #20
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TNA should just make a reality/comedy show about TNA. I would be more interested in watching the booking team trying to prepare for the next show then the show itself
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lol a recap show where they have random non-TNA-employed guests shit on the show.

Wait, no, they should do every show MST3K style!
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TNA usually delivers when they have tease a big announcement except the few times where the surprise was the announcement of a timeslot change. I doubt this will be any sort of surprise that will change TNA forever, but it still has the potential of at least being a major announcement/surprise. I doubt it's Benjamin or Mickie James or anyone like that because they can't really tease that as changing TNA forever.
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The reason TNA keeps promoting their "big surprises" is that they want the ratings/ppv buys, instead of one person telling his friend "Man, you should have seen TNA this week - they did blah blah. Said friend if he's interested then goes to youtube and watches it, but TNA still missed their chance at getting ratings off the event.

Yes, I know that if the friend is impressed enough, he might start tuning in next week, but TNA apparently isn't thinking down this road.
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The reason TNA keeps promoting their "big surprises" is that they want the ratings/ppv buys, instead of one person telling his friend "Man, you should have seen TNA this week - they did blah blah. Said friend if he's interested then goes to youtube and watches it, but TNA still missed their chance at getting ratings off the event.

Yes, I know that if the friend is impressed enough, he might start tuning in next week, but TNA apparently isn't thinking down this road.
Yeah, I understand TNA is to busy scrambling to make a dollar now and passing up chances to make much more down the line.
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The reason TNA keeps promoting their "big surprises" is that they want the ratings/ppv buys, instead of one person telling his friend "Man, you should have seen TNA this week - they did blah blah. Said friend if he's interested then goes to youtube and watches it, but TNA still missed their chance at getting ratings off the event.

Yes, I know that if the friend is impressed enough, he might start tuning in next week, but TNA apparently isn't thinking down this road.
They're not thinking period. Crying wolf every week just means nobody's going to be tuned in when they finally offer something.
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so Hogan's gonna win the title on Sunday huh? that's probably the big surprise
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But that's not a surprise.

That's not a surprise at all.
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It might be that ECW stable they've been wanting to do for a while now. (Rhino, Dreamer, Raven, etc)
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It might be that ECW stable they've been wanting to do for a while now. (Rhino, Dreamer, Raven, etc)
I can see that happening, since this is their version of Wrestlemania even though it can't even come par to a "In Your House" PPV this is the perfect time when every TNA fan is watching....so they can rejoice with their mark friends.
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It's either a new show, new timeslot or something else network related. Otherwise she wouldn't be teasing with Spike TV's President.
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WWE Group and they can insinuate that Vince is trying to mess with TNA just like WCW did with the NWO before Vince sued them.
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