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Old 09-01-2010, 12:05 AM   #41
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Are you and jordan the same person?

I never said it was his fault but the fights proved less than nothing and you guys are going on and on like hes the best guy out there.

Again, Im bringing some level of OBJECTIVITY to this discussion. Have you even gone back and read anything Ive posted in here?

Yes hes a great fighter but not the best, at least not anymore.
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:09 AM   #42
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I didn't ever say he was the best at the moment.. I just think a legend should be respected as such..
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if i was with you right now id slap the shit out you...



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more like the charlie murphy face palm down onto the counter surface
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its a tribute to rick james, you should be happy
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It wasn't that impressive Randy did. Any MMA fighter with some sense would have done the same thing.

And I would still say Fedor is the favorite vs Randy or Lesnar. Even though I do think Fedor is past his prime.
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Old 09-01-2010, 01:03 AM   #49
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That's kinda what I was asking??

He did exactly what we all knew he would do.. Besides boxing with Tony, what should he have done differently?? Cause I think banging with him would have been fucking retarded and yall are acting disappointed in his performance..

No way Fedor could fuck with Lesnar..
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Fedor has 1 legit loss in 33 fights... Brock Lesner has almost died. He has 6 career fights and bearly escaped his last fight.

Brock has a very good chance of beating Fedor, but I would still pick Fedor in that fight just based off of experience.

Fedor is going to destroy his next opponent whoever it is btw.
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Brock would manhandle fedor.
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Fedor has 1 legit loss in 33 fights... Brock Lesner has almost died. He has 6 career fights and bearly escaped his last fight.

Which is super impressive IMO.. He got hit by a guy who hadn't let the past 12 fighters in front of him leave the first round and Brock weathered that storm like a CHAMPION..
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It wasn't that impressive Randy did. Any MMA fighter with some sense would have done the same thing.

And I would still say Fedor is the favorite vs Randy or Lesnar. Even though I do think Fedor is past his prime.
It's impressive because he is a 47 year old who is still at the top of his game.
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But it was against an over the hill boxer.

C'mon
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Again, just because JOE SILVA and DANA WHITE booked that fight, shouldn't take anything away from the skills Couture has shown over the past 14 years..
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I have no problem with that. Let's just not make a big deal of the James Toney fight.
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Old 09-01-2010, 06:01 PM   #57
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Whoa whoa whoa....

I made this thread because Randy's victory over Toney just proves that he is still alive, and with his movie that just came out he is in the public eye. So UFC will undoubtedly use this to their advantage.

I do think Couture could beat any MMA fighter on any given day. It's absolutely possible. Just as it is for Fedor, Lesnar, Carwin, Silva, or anybody that is ultra talented. Will he win all of his fights in the next year or two? Who knows, maybe, doubtful but maybe.

He seems to be in the twilight of his career and if he does go on to face a young light heavyweight such as a Jon Jones, and wins, then he will have no choice but to be a title contender.

And you guys just because I made a thread about Couture doesn't mean I don't respect many other fighters. I was just so happy that he lived up to the expectation and put boxing on it's ass and choked it out.

It was bigger than James Toney, it was something that MMA can hold onto in the never ending debate of which is better.

Now of course we need to get our best striker/boxer and send him to face a boxer in the ring, knock him out and put this all to rest.

Also, with the combination of Fedor/Lesnar - Fedor/Couture - Couture/Lesnar - Fedor/Carwin - Carwin/Couture ... these fights are SUPER FIGHTS. There is really know way to know who would win, because they are all powerful and aggressive and can win or lose on any given night with an equal opponent.

Personally I would favor Couture right now in a fight with Fedor, I'd however favor Fedor in a fight with Lesnar.... YES even though Lesnar beat Couture I'd have to say Randy would be a better match with Fedor and possibly win. I do not think that Randy would beat Carwin.

It's my weird way of thinking but it is what it is, an opinion.
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Now of course we need to get our best striker/boxer and send him to face a boxer in the ring, knock him out and put this all to rest.
If put up against any decent boxer the same thing that happened to Toney would happen to the MMA fighter.
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Yeah I don't think I've seen any pure MMA striker who wouldn't get smashed by a good boxer. They're two different sports, I don't see why there's a need to compare the two. To be honest, I usually find a pure stand up fight in MMA pretty boring or sloppy looking.

I do think a boxer in better shape than Toney would put up a better fight. He obviously did nothing for that fight, he was fat, out of shape and there for the money. Randy Couture can take very little credit from that victory and the UFC looks shoddy for allowing it to even happen.
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i wouldn't call them sloppy, i understand what you mean but it's just a neccessity of the sport. i think fights that are just two guys swinging fists in mma is pretty boring, but throw in kicks, clinch work and whatever other standup techniques you like and it's plenty entertaining.
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i think if a boxer who was 25 turned to mma and actually spent a good few years working on everything else they'd be very dangerous. but just knowing you have a boxing background means everyone will try and take you down.
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i wouldn't call them sloppy, i understand what you mean but it's just a neccessity of the sport. i think fights that are just two guys swinging fists in mma is pretty boring, but throw in kicks, clinch work and whatever other standup techniques you like and it's plenty entertaining.
I understand that. I watch MMA for the mix of fighting styles but when it's two punchers it ends up looking like a brawl.
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Again, just because JOE SILVA and DANA WHITE booked that fight, shouldn't take anything away from the skills Couture has shown over the past 14 years..
no one has done that
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Randy can beat anybody right now and that is insane to say about a 47 year old.
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he'd come unstruck against the top tiers of heavy and light heavy. he hasn't really beat anyone who is any good since belfort/ortiz/liddell in 2003/04
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