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Old 08-31-2010, 01:48 PM   #41
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I have a feeling the brand extension is coming to an end with the move of SD to SyFy sooner than later.

Oh and I guess we can say good bye to the good ol days US title, they'd never ditch the IC Title for the US Title.
I think it would be nice if we could say hello to the "good ole' days" of RAW and Smackdown! having the same roster. With guys like HBK, Batista and soon The Undertaker heading out the door with no clear replacements, feuds are going to need to be deeper/have more people involved to be compelling.
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Old 08-31-2010, 01:48 PM   #42
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Maybe it's part of the agenda of the anonymous GM.
Oh i def believe that. Why else would they have all of this GM secrecy. I just hope they don't blow this whole mystery GM angle and have it turn out to be somebody retarded, like Mike Adamle coming back or something else silly. Ehh who am I kidding, these are WWE writers. Of course they will blow it !
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:04 PM   #43
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Damn there are way too many wrestlers to have just 4 titles.
It will be a good thing actually since only those who deserve the belts will become Champions.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:25 PM   #44
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Whatever the new GM does with the titles and the brands will be shocking and anti-climactic.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:28 PM   #45
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Unless they're re-integrating the rosters, I'm not too fond of this plan.
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Old 08-31-2010, 02:42 PM   #46
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Unless they're re-integrating the rosters, I'm not too fond of this plan.
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Scratch this idea and get rid of the PG rating.
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Old 08-31-2010, 03:44 PM   #48
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I'm all for unifying the tag and diva belts, dunno about the others though.
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Old 08-31-2010, 04:00 PM   #49
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Let RAW have the WWE and United States titles, SmackDown have the World Heavyweight and Intercontinental titles, and the Tag Team and Women's titles with the champions floating between both shows.
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Old 08-31-2010, 04:51 PM   #51
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i like it mainly for the world title prestige goes up a bunch

sure dont need two womens and tag belts neways will miss the us title though
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Old 08-31-2010, 04:53 PM   #52
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Let RAW have the WWE and United States titles, SmackDown have the World Heavyweight and Intercontinental titles, and the Tag Team and Women's titles with the champions floating between both shows.
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Old 08-31-2010, 05:11 PM   #53
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Too few belts with too many wrestlers won't really work. The roster would have to be cut, which may not be a bad thing anyway depending on how it was done. (ie: don't keep the shite ones)
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Old 08-31-2010, 05:26 PM   #54
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As long as there is a brand split or a roster as large as there is, unifying all titles is a terrible idea. Leaves way too many guys fighting for nothing and getting even more lost in the shuffle.
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Old 08-31-2010, 05:32 PM   #55
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That is great. There should only be ONE World Champion, the main title of the Company. Having 2 World Titles, even if you don't notice it, takes away from the mystique of being WORLD CHAMPION.

Downside is that most probably it'll be Cena who wins the unifying match.
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Old 08-31-2010, 05:39 PM   #56
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U'Know I'd be happy if they just kept the IC and US titles separate. If they wanna unify the WWE/WHC so badly then fine.

Although I just realized if this brand extension is really ending, this would screw over some PPVs

-Bragging Rights
-Night of Champions (With only 5 titles there'd be no point to it really)
-Money in the Bank
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Old 08-31-2010, 05:48 PM   #57
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U'Know I'd be happy if they just kept the IC and US titles separate. If they wanna unify the WWE/WHC so badly then fine.

Although I just realized if this brand extension is really ending, this would screw over some PPVs

-Bragging Rights
-Night of Champions (With only 5 titles there'd be no point to it really)
-Money in the Bank

They'd still have those PPV's.

The only "negative" is that guys like Rey Mysterio, Kane, CM Punk, etc, probably won't get title runs.
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Old 08-31-2010, 06:02 PM   #58
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i wonder if they do unify the two World titles if they will come out with a new belt and eliminate the spinner belt. I think they just might considering all the talk of them bringing out a new WWE logo.
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Old 09-01-2010, 01:51 AM   #59
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Interesting. It's a change, one way or another -- whether it will be good or bad remains to be seen.

If they keep the brand split, I'd truthfully like to see the IC and US Titles remain separate. You can have one WWE World Heavyweight Champion floating between the two shows, but then you have that "top prize on RAW" and "top prize on SmackDown!." That could really raise the prestige of those titles, too.

It'll also mean that the World Title will probably not be whored around as much, with guys being given the title only if Vince feels they are right to carry the company. Sure, that might mean we'll see the few of the favourites dominate the scene for a while -- but part of me misses the days of hoping that Chris Jericho will get that World Title run. Now it can happen pretty much any time. If Christian won the WWE World Heavyweight Title, as opposed to a brand-specific World Title, then it would arguably mean so much more. It's, of course, a lot less likely to happen, though.

There's also the possibility of other titles being created during this era of brand-floating championships. With a great emphasis on younger guys being the WWE's focus right now, I could easily see some sort of championship for guys under 30. That would mean that young guys would be in that division, instead of neccessarily being pushed into the main event too fast. This also gives the younger guys something to feud over, rather than the Intercontinental Championship, which might be contested between two veteran performers not in the main event at that point in time.
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I was thrilled that they unified the tag belts, just as I am that they're unifying the women's belts.

So this news is pretty great, I think. Unifying the world titles will be a good move.
I think they could get away with keeping both the US and IC titles though. Especially with the loaded midcard they have.
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Old 09-01-2010, 02:11 AM   #61
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Looks like this years Rumble winner is going to get the shaft big time.
Not if the Rumble is for one of the world titles, like in 92. I've wanted that to happen again for the longest time.

They could easily have the Rumble be for the World Title, and a shot at the WWE Championship at Wrestlemania.
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Old 09-01-2010, 02:16 AM   #62
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Do it, so long as they have one unique title people can vie for. I think its time to bring back the Cruiserweight division. European title seems meaningless right now, and HC title is not very PG. WWE has enough guys to run a small guy division again.

Evan Bourne, Chavo, Jusin Gabriel, Heath Slater, Kaval, JTG, Tyson Kidd, Rey Mysterio, Tatsu, Dudebusters, Mercury, and more NXT people potentially.

Remember, for every IC title, you need a European, Cruiserweight, or Hardcore Title

I'm all for World Heavyweight Title Unification. It will help give this era some of what helped make the Attitude Era great - great feuds and meaningful title reigns.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:27 AM   #63
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If there's only one World Championship belt then the roster split needs to end, plain and simple.
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:18 AM   #64
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I love this idea, it would make me very happy. I loved the Undisputed WWE Championship, that was so cool to have the champion float around. He'd have a main feud on Smackdown! Then go to Raw and have a smaller feud with lower card workers or boil up his next match.

I think it makes a lot of sense to make this move.

Unifying the US and IC Title is a risky move. One that honestly I think I would be in favor for. I'd say put the IC Title on Raw and The WWE Tag Team Titles on Smackdown! If they really went to work to create a super interesting Tag Team Division that meant something and had good meaning and storyline I think it could be huge for Smackdown! Especially with the move to SyFy. WWE needs to change the production to fit SyFy a little more, and a bold move such as this could be the trick.

However, you could also just keep The US and IC on seperate shows, keep them exclusive and make the Womens, Tag, and World champions float from Smackdown to Raw.

Or of course you can end the brand split which would be a great way to rejuvenate Smackdown! and make Raw more interesting every week, so I think I would be for it.

WWE doesn't have to lose house show business either, they can still run seperate tours with different groups of wrestlers.
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They NEED at least one exclusive title to each brand. As seems to be the general consensus, I'm for this as long as the US and IC titles stay brand-exclusive.
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U'Know I'd be happy if they just kept the IC and US titles separate. If they wanna unify the WWE/WHC so badly then fine.

Although I just realized if this brand extension is really ending, this would screw over some PPVs

-Bragging Rights
-Night of Champions (With only 5 titles there'd be no point to it really)
-Money in the Bank
this could be an opportunity for WWE to look at going from maybe a 12 PPV schedule to maybe a 8 PPV a year schedule, placing more emphasis on the storylines and the matches they have to put on PPV. More than likely I can tell you I will confirm that if the plan is indeed to unify all the championships and go back to one world champion, one mid card champion, tag team champions, and a women's champion, the brand extension will end and the roster will be solidified into one unit with all talent working both shows.

With that being said, yes there would have to be a roster shift, with guys like Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Batista, and possibly Triple H not in the near too future, and maybe Jericho all being gone the star power is going to be lackluster to say none to less. You can only have so many fueds and matches with Randy Orton, Cena, Sheamus, and Edge.

With there being a roster shift, it will force WWE creative to have to stop writing vignettes and stupid storyline filler material to cover a 2 hour show and focus on incorporating good feuds with good quality television matches.

The only thing negative to come out of it with the looming end of the brand extension possibly with the title unifications, that means all talent on the roster would be expected to be working both Raw and Smackdown which means more dates per talent every year and more travel expenses for each guy. That being said pay given the way the economy is going to be sparing to say none to less, so alot of talent will more than likely be cut from the midcard through the developmental system. Some guys/gals in the midcard that we are fond of probably won't be employed in the "E" this time next year if the brand extension were to end and with TNA already cutting the fat on its roster, leaves less of a place to work again.

Could also be an opportunity to see a new and 3rd promotion pop up into the mainstream as some of these guys if they can't stay in WWE or land in TNA would mean an explosion of good and useful talent back to regional and indy promotions. Could be a chance for Ring of Honor to springboard into the limelight if they had a chance to get their hands on a Drew Mcyintyre, Evan Bourne, Dolph Ziggler, and other notable midcard talent that they could put over as main event calibur guys.

Either way this potentially leads to more positives than i can see negative.
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this could be an opportunity for WWE to look at going from maybe a 12 PPV schedule to maybe a 8 PPV a year schedule, placing more emphasis on the storylines and the matches they have to put on PPV.

The WWE cares more about their net income and stock price more than they do storylines and matches for pay per views. No way they're going to reduce their revenue stream by cutting pay per views, although I agree with you that better build ups would be nice.
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If they cut down the amount of PPVs they do instead of upping the prices they may actually see an improvement in PPV numbers and more revenue from them.

But they don't even really care about PPV numbers. It's all about TV now, and has been since the beginning of the Monday Night Wars.
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I didn't read the whole thread, but I got just two things to say:

1) WWE isn't gonna choose WHC over the bling belt. We're going to have a worthless world title.

2) This means even more superCena for you to eat, because there isn't going to be another world champion.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:10 AM   #70
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I didn't read the whole thread, but I got just two things to say:

1) WWE isn't gonna choose WHC over the bling belt. We're going to have a worthless world title.

2) This means even more superCena for you to eat, because there isn't going to be another world champion.
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:37 AM   #71
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I figure that they will make new belts for their unified titles. Part of the reason they got new belts for the WWE Tag Team Championship was so that there were new toys to market. As long as the belt looks like something worth having, I will be happy. They'll also probably only have the World Champion work house shows with one brand. For example, if John Cena were the first WWE World Heavyweight Champion of the Universe, he'd probably work RAW house shows as advertised until they could switch him over to working SmackDown! shows.

It also seems that the WWE have been doing more and more mixed house shows as of late. I'm not going to say that means the end of the brand split, but I think they are trying to freshen up that scene a bit. I'd expect the World Champion to have a house show schedule where he mixes it in with both brands (although not every week).

No, I do not believe that the brand split will be ending officially anytime soon, but with a lot of their bigger name stars retiring or winding down (how much longer does The Undertaker, Kane, Edge or even Triple H really have?), having a unified roster would definitely take some of that pressure off. Especially since being a champion would mean more, meaning those titles could really elevate guys (something I don't feel they do as well now, since everyone seems to get a title run of some sort -- unless your name is Chris Masters).

I never really got the whole "the brand split ending means half the roster will go" arguement. They will still need talent to take up the same amount of time on both shows. With some big names probably doing double-duty each week, there will be fewer spots to fill, but as someone said, that could just mean the end of pointless segments (wishful thinking?) or a few of the lower card guys going to waste get sent back to developmental where they hopefully just get better, or being released, which sucks from the WWE's perspective, but from a wrestling fan's perspective, it does give some bigger names to the independent scene.
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:15 PM   #72
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I'm all for having an Undisputed WWE Champion again, along with the Intercontinental, new WWE Tag Team Championships and Women's Championships as the only 4 titles in WWE. With the brand split and like 7 different titles, there's just so damn many to keep track of, and a lot of the titles, especially the World Heavyweight Championship and the WWE Championship just change hands so damn fast these days that the titles, and even the competition for the titles seems watered-down and stale.

Would also love to see WWE's 8 1/2 year Brand Extension come to an end, have it be like the old days where the Undisputed Champion could defend the title on both brands, only this time, apply it to all 4 remaining titles.
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:20 PM   #73
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Was never a fan of the brand split in the first place it was all a ploy for WWE to rake in more cash and make bigger stars out of guys who never should have been the first place. In fact if it's possible in SVR 2011's WWE Universe mode I will do this myself let's face it the ratio of Superstars to belts is too high the NOC PPV pretty much proves this and makes them nothing more than a mere prop. The only belt I would keep is the US title since there is a lot of midcard talent and would simply take the place of the now defunct European Championship end rant.
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Old 09-10-2010, 02:13 AM   #74
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The only problem with unifying is deciding on what title and/or name to keep

like if the IC and US title unify..again which will they keep
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