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Old 01-01-2011, 03:08 PM   #41
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Again, the only reason for why I see WWE pushing him, and if he gets the WWE Title, even more so, is because they are going to remove him as color commentator and they don't want to piss him off too much when they do so.
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I know he's old school and all but actually winning the WWE belt? No.
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Old 01-01-2011, 03:16 PM   #43
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Do you really think they care about "Pissing him off"? Like they cared about JR, right?
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they're not gonna get rid of Jerry atm.
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Yeah, I do. JR has been the butt of jokes for years.
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I thought more people would be up in arms about this idea.

I would be fine with it. It's not like Arquette at all. Lawler is an accomplished legendary wrestler, not a scrawny actor. Night and day.

Built up as a feel good, classic "Over the hill guy gets one more crack at the title" kind of thing, there is absolutely no reason why Lawler winning the title should be shameful. He's obviously not on the same level as any of the younger guys anymore but on one night, he channels his younger days and give everything he's got and is able to recapture glory. He goes on to defend it and runs out of magic, losing the title. This is all perfectly acceptable.
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Hmmm...Lawler taking the belt from the Miz. I like.
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- Bryan Alvarez of F4Wonline.com is reporting that as of this week that a Fatal 4 Way is planned for the WWE Title match at Royal Rumble with The Miz defending his title vs Jerry Lawler, Randy Orton and John Morrison. Morrison vs Miz in a singles match was originally scheduled for Rumble but those plans were changed and that match will now take place on this Monday’s Raw. There has also been talk of possibly giving Jerry Lawler a short run with the WWE Title but nothing is set in stone at this point.

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My initial reaction is "I'd like to have some of what they're smoking if they do that" but really, it's not like it'd make Miz or whoever look bad. They'd lose the belt in some fluke ending during a fatal 4 way. Not the end of the world. As long as Miz gets the belt back via killing Lawler or in a good douchebag way, it'll be fine.
god i am getting sick of this king shit. i used to love the king, and i still respect him for what he has done, but lately he hasnt been funny, his jokes have been way dated, and this back in the ring shit with the miz is getting old. plus i hate how he is always trashing how the miz won the strap. not like its the only time that way happened. idk i think this would be a bad idea, and i really hope king just sticks to commentary.
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god i am getting sick of this king shit. i used to love the king, and i still respect him for what he has done, but lately he hasnt been funny, his jokes have been way dated, and this back in the ring shit with the miz is getting old. plus i hate how he is always trashing how the miz won the strap. not like its the only time that way happened. idk i think this would be a bad idea, and i really hope king just sticks to commentary.
fuck off. kings done nothing wrong as of late.
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I like King. I've actually enjoyed his work the past few weeks. His Ladder Match was amazing considering the expectations I had going into it. He can still work a really good match.

With that said, King does not belong anywhere near the WWE title after the Ladder match, especially in a PPV match. And I would NOT want to see him take it off Miz. I don't care what kind of "fluke finish" they could come up with, even if they had him pin Morrison or something. It would fuck up what is shaping up to be a respectable run with the title to lose it to Lawler. There is no good way to go about something like that.
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See, I don't think anything they could do right now could hurt the Miz, including having him drop the title to an old wrestler. And whether his run is 1 long one, or 2 with a fluke loss in the middle, the Miz will still look exactly the same. Because, you know, he's awesome.
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I do love though that more people, including myself, are more receptive to a Lawler fluke win than Morrison winning at all.
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It won't hurt Miz as much as it'll hurt the integrity of the title itself.
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It won't hurt Miz as much as it'll hurt the integrity of the title itself.
I disagree. When you have a champion like the Miz, who is an absolutely amazing cowardly heel character, the only thing that matters story wise is getting the belt off of him. It doesn't matter who does it. Fans just want the belt off of the guy who, in their eyes, is an undeserving champion. So in this scenario, the credibility of the belt remains the same IMO, because this is more about the Miz getting his comeuppance than it is about the title.
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fuck off. kings done nothing wrong as of late.
i will not fuck off, fucking on is more fun. and im not really saying king did anything wrong, just saying i am getting sick of him lately. i have always liked the king, back in the good ol days when him and jr were almost the dream team of announcing. the tlc match between him and miz was awesome, and they should have left it at that...now it just seems like its dragging on
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If he wins via fluke, and Miz or whoever gets the title back the next night on Raw, I will dig it.
That's really the only way it can be done without sucking.

As for his dream Wrestlemania match, I dunno. I doubt it will be anything high profile. They could stick him in some meaningless filler match, but with the strength of the cards these days I don't know where it would fit.
If they have a MITB match, the best bet would be putting him in that and giving him a moment. Maybe making a run at the case and going down to a huge spot.
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Lawler's past achievements do give him cred. And when he steps out from behind the desk, they actually book him pretty decently still.
So it's not really that crazy for him to have a short singles run. Main event/world champion seems a bit much though. That's why it almost has to be a fluke. If he pulls off the underdog veteran win and drops the title right away, it's certainly not some disasterous thing.
I still can buy him as a midcarder, but not a main eventer.

It's interesting if they give Lawler a 24 hr or 1 week honorary reign. Mainly because they didn't even do that with Flair or Bret. They just won the IC and US titles.
If they give Lawler the fluke upset for the World Title, you have to wonder why they didn't do that for the others. That's why I sort of doubt it.

The Wrestlemania moment I can easily see.
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Yeah but Flair and Hart had been world champ before. It was nothing special. For Lawler, this would be special.
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I don't mind a brief reign for Lawler. He deserves it.

If he wins it, He would surpass Vince McMahon as the oldest WWE Champion in history at 61, and it would be his 32nd World title in his career (He currently had 31 reigns...28 USWA, 2 WCCW, 1 AWA).
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Nothing against King, but I'd much rather just see Miz VS Morrison at the Royal Rumble, so that we can see Morrison hang out in the main event.

Plus, all this 'final thank you' or 'he deserves it' stuff is bullshit. We hear this kinda thing all the time... how Undertaker needs to have one final goodbye reign, when it's not like he hasn't had it five times the last decade!

King is a legend in the WWE, as evidenced by his being in the Hall of Fame, and rightfully so. But all the crap about him winning the title as a final 'thank you' is a load of bull. He didn't win it in his prime, why should he win it now? Just because he's old, loyal and a legend shouldn't automantically entitle him to a title reign.

Further more, I don't think this would have anything to do with dropping him from announcing and not pissing him off. WWE is a multi-million dollar company, I don't think they'd be scared of pissing someone off, and besides, Lawler's old, he has to realise his time is almost up. I'm sure he'll still get a job backstage, but he can't expect WWE to keep him on TV forever.
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Nothing against King, but I'd much rather just see Miz VS Morrison at the Royal Rumble, so that we can see Morrison hang out in the main event.

Plus, all this 'final thank you' or 'he deserves it' stuff is bullshit. We hear this kinda thing all the time... how Undertaker needs to have one final goodbye reign, when it's not like he hasn't had it five times the last decade!

King is a legend in the WWE, as evidenced by his being in the Hall of Fame, and rightfully so. But all the crap about him winning the title as a final 'thank you' is a load of bull. He didn't win it in his prime, why should he win it now? Just because he's old, loyal and a legend shouldn't automantically entitle him to a title reign.

Further more, I don't think this would have anything to do with dropping him from announcing and not pissing him off. WWE is a multi-million dollar company, I don't think they'd be scared of pissing someone off, and besides, Lawler's old, he has to realise his time is almost up. I'm sure he'll still get a job backstage, but he can't expect WWE to keep him on TV forever.
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If Lawler wants to have a match at Wrestlemania, then I don't see a problem since its been a goal of his for years but I don't like the idea of him winning the title off of Miz even if it was just for 1 week.

It would hurt Miz's reign as champion but Morison has the most to lose since he just started his feud with Miz and would seem like a waste of a feud to end it too early if Lawler ends up being the one to benefit the most.
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Yeah but Flair and Hart had been world champ before. It was nothing special. For Lawler, this would be special.
This is true. Which is why I'm for it. I just think it should certainly be booked a certain way.
I'm always down for an upset and moment of unexpected glory.
It could be pretty awesome, but I also don't want to see The Miz or the WWE title get dogged. I think WWE is pretty smart about that.
I'm almost certain that if they did do this, it would be short and sweet, and the result of some hijinx.
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If Lawler wants to have a match at Wrestlemania, then I don't see a problem since its been a goal of his for years but I don't like the idea of him winning the title off of Miz even if it was just for 1 week.

It would hurt Miz's reign as champion but Morison has the most to lose since he just started his feud with Miz and would seem like a waste of a feud to end it too early if Lawler ends up being the one to benefit the most.
I don't think it would really hurt The Miz, or anyone, if it's a fatal four way and some big clusterfuck happens and Lawler scores the win.
He doesn't even have to pin Miz
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They could just bring back the Championship Scramble match if they wanted to give Lawler a title win without the need for him to just drop it a day or week later.

Let him get a pin and hold on to the status of "current WWE champion" until late in the match for someone like a Miz or if WWE wanted someone else to get the final pin or submission.
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King's still a badass in the ring. He comes from the territory days, so he's got command in there. His moveset is basic, but he knows how and when to do every move he does to make the crowd react, and that is more than you can say for at least 80 per cent of the roster.
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YEAH LETS MAKE ARQUETTE CHAMP NEXT
Big Huge Difference...

Lawler was a wrestler for many years thru out the 70's, 80's and 90's

Arquette wasn't a wrestler

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Lawler brings a LOT to the table, even to this day.

As I said earlier, I like the idea of him winning it. Cluster for the win. They've always portrayed him as a "wily veteran" and whatnot, so let him play that up. Hell, let him roll out of the ring and lay low, and when the other guys trade finishers, he rolls in during the pin, grabs the guy pinning and pulls him directly into a piledriver, holds it for a three count, and celebrates. Fluke win, no one in the match or the belt loses cred since it was stripped from the cowardly, underhanded champ.

The crowd will eat it up.

A night later, Lawler gets out-wrestled and becomes the victim of interference by someone like Riley. Lawler v. Riley at Mania, Riley goes for the DQ loss giving Lawler the win at Mania, and Riley and Miz proceed to destroy Jerry until wrestlers can intervene and chase them off. Lawler is hurt, and gets written off the TV.

Win all 'round.
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Jerry Lawler vs HHH at WM

HHH swerves everyone and forms an alliance with Sheamus and helps Sheamus win/not be eliminated at Elimination Chamber costing Lawler the belt and HHH focus is on Jerry "the King" Lawler for a match at WM.

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Michael Scott is told by Toby Flenderson about the King becoming the WWE Champion by beating the Miz...it wasn't pretty.



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Whoever would even consider booking this should be drugged out into the street and shot.
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See, this is why I give you shit.
Putting in relevant and funny videos that aren't on autoplay? It was the perfect video to how I feel on King becoming champ over Miz. You must have no sense of humor. Maybe you should make it a New Years Resolution to not be such an uptight ass.


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Michael Scott is told by Toby Flenderson about the King becoming the WWE Champion by beating the Miz...it wasn't pretty.



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Putting in relevant and funny videos that aren't on autoplay? It was the perfect video to how I feel on King becoming champ over Miz. You must have no sense of humor. Maybe you should make it a New Years Resolution to not be such an uptight ass.
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