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Old 04-09-2011, 01:45 AM   #41
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I miss Matt Striker on commentary. Easily the best commentator the WWE has. He would get enjoyable commentary even out of sandbags like Jerry Lawler.

I think some of the heat on Striker is exaggerated. I'm sure that he could be a bit tricky to work with, and that some of his removal could be a bit of a "cool-down" thing for him, so he realises that he does need to stick to the script and play ball, because they can take him off -- but I also think there is a bigger reason: Booker T is back, and he's just a bigger star than Striker. A far shittier commentator, but a far bigger star.

If/when there is another change in the commentary team, whether that's Michael Cole becoming his own entity, King retiring or Booker T taking another role on -- Matt Striker will end up filling the color spot.
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Old 04-09-2011, 06:34 AM   #42
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Striker the best commentator and Lawler a sandbag?

I think Lawler needs to be paired with the right guy, and that he was better as a heel announcer, but sandbag, it's hard to take that seriously when Matt Striker is "easily the best commentator WWE has."

I know the opinion isn't yours alone, so I'm not trying to single anyone out for thinking what they do, I just do not get the hysteria about Matt Striker.

He says the dumbest shit. He needs to relax. He reaches for gems and gets boogers.

But again, I don't think the guy needs to be canned, just get shit together. If so many people think he's the best announcer or like him that much it would be really stupid to fire him because of Cole and Lawler. But work is work, I guess, and this isn't the only time where people have had problems and been unable to work together, and usually in those situations, something's got to give.
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Old 04-09-2011, 06:36 AM   #43
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Striker: Notice that every punch he throws is aimed directly at his opponent's face! The face is a nexus of your physical senses. If he injures his eye, he won't be able to be seen, and will clearly have an advantage. If you injure his mouth, he will not be able to talk trash, which will give you the psychological edge, nor will he be able to taste his blood, sweat and tears as a reminder of how hard you have to work in this business. But after this side headlock it is now clear to me that his plan is to cover the ears of his opponent, so that he can not hear the reaction of the crowd and harness that metaphysical energy to turn the tables on his opponent. King, how do you counter a strategy like that?

King: Well, uh... Whoa, neckbreaker. You talk about counters! (Covers the mic) What the fuck is the inside of your mind. Jesus Christ.
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Striker: Notice that every punch he throws is aimed directly at his opponent's face! The face is a nexus of your physical senses. If he injures his eye, he won't be able to be seen, and will clearly have an advantage. If you injure his mouth, he will not be able to talk trash, which will give you the psychological edge, nor will he be able to taste his blood, sweat and tears as a reminder of how hard you have to work in this business. But after this side headlock it is now clear to me that his plan is to cover the ears of his opponent, so that he can not hear the reaction of the crowd and harness that metaphysical energy to turn the tables on his opponent. King, how do you counter a strategy like that?

King: Well, uh... Whoa, neckbreaker. You talk about counters! (Covers the mic) What the fuck is the inside of your mind. Jesus Christ.
EXACTLY!!!!

Striker overanalyzes every fucking move and goes above and beyond what is necessary (and I don't mean that in a complementary, does his job fashion).

And there really is no hysteria on Striker's announcing, it's Vinny Mac who gets hot and bothered over it.....He's the one that's the Striker fan in that capacity. So it just trickles down to become known sentiment to his behind the scenes staff in the lockerroom.
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It sounded like Striker legit marked out.

Now who cares if it was scripted or not. The phrase "I'm marking out" is what every fan who grew up on Diesel and Booker T was thinking and doing. In my eyes it made for excellent tv.
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Striker was great. Felt more close to him as a casual fan then the others.
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"Booker T is doing a terrible job at announcing. Get him off my TV!"

"Matt Striker is doing too good a job at announcing. Get him off my TV!"
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Striker: Notice that every punch he throws is aimed directly at his opponent's face! The face is a nexus of your physical senses. If he injures his eye, he won't be able to be seen, and will clearly have an advantage. If you injure his mouth, he will not be able to talk trash, which will give you the psychological edge, nor will he be able to taste his blood, sweat and tears as a reminder of how hard you have to work in this business. But after this side headlock it is now clear to me that his plan is to cover the ears of his opponent, so that he can not hear the reaction of the crowd and harness that metaphysical energy to turn the tables on his opponent. King, how do you counter a strategy like that?

King: Well, uh... Whoa, neckbreaker. You talk about counters! (Covers the mic) What the fuck is the inside of your mind. Jesus Christ.
Yeah, a color analyst analysing is just horrible.

Striker legitimately cares, and will work his ass off to put over every match he is calling. He'll talk up the existing angles of development, and he'll point out new ones. God forbid a commentator says anything but "He's punching him really hard right now." We might as well get rid of them.
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Old 04-09-2011, 10:41 PM   #51
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Agree with Noid, DMac and FourFifty.

Striker goes well out of his way to put guys over. Anyone remember when Cody got drafted to SmackDown! before the "dashing" gimmick? Strike rbusted his ass for weeks during Cody's matches to put him over in commentary.

I also feel like Striker "gets it" He understans his job, and does his best to come through in that position. He doesn't cheerlead or offer one line comments like Lawler's sorry ass, and he doesn't ramble about how so and so's "gonna do it" like Booker T.

I also love how he gets what seems to be legit excited for his job. That's what I loved about JR when he used to call matches. He would sound like he was legit emotionally invested and excited about what was going on.

Striker is still calling Superstars, so he hasn't vanished. I'd love to see him get a crack on one of the main programs again. Really enjoy his style.
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A Jim Ross/Matt Striker tandem would possibly be my favourite ever. It could become even greater with the inclusion of John "Bradshaw" Layfield.
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Old 04-09-2011, 11:01 PM   #53
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I thought JBL was great as a color commentator, and like Striker, he put guys over through his commentary. Also liked his work for Mania 23. Shame he didn't last long.

I think he would work very well with JR. JR is amazing when he has someone who pushes his buttons to play off of. I think JR and Striker would be a good mix as well, but I'd prefer JBL.
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Old 04-10-2011, 12:43 AM   #54
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I thought Striker was really good with what he brought to the table - the history, the facts the over-analysis - it all appealed to the nerd in me. He needed a colour guy who would rib on him for these facts it self. That would certainly be enjoyable.
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Old 04-10-2011, 01:11 AM   #55
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Yeah, a color analyst analysing is just horrible.

Striker legitimately cares, and will work his ass off to put over every match he is calling. He'll talk up the existing angles of development, and he'll point out new ones. God forbid a commentator says anything but "He's punching him really hard right now." We might as well get rid of them.
It's a little more complicated than that.

There's other announcers who bring alot more to the table in terms of verbiage than "He's punching him really hard right now."

And his name is Jim Ross.

Someone going (impersonating--Stryker NEVER said this but this isn't far off on what he'd say:

"Michael, Rey Mysterio is---if I may an aerial dancer. That's not a knock on Mr. 6-1-9, it's a positive attribute to this brilliant performer. The grace of Rey in his match against Rhodes just two weeks ago underscores the superheroics of the costumes he dons of those of actual superheroes. Interestingly enough too, "Captain America" tried to overtake Cody's "Red Skull" in the battle of World War Wrestlemania"

I like how if we don't like hearing pretentious shit like that we're either "trolls" or just "don't get it".

That's not necessarily the case. But the way Matt Stryker talks, I liken it to the guy who writes fancy shit then gets called on for it by someone saying "You know you come off really clever, but you may want to write more on how the average person really talks".

Well speaking it during a WWE match--something that's supposed to be entertainment remember? and dissecting the living shit out it with a soft voice and non sequituirs doesn't make you the greatest color guy since John Madden. It's different. Different is and can be refreshing. I get it.

But we're not fucking idiots if we don't all fawn over it.
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It's a little more complicated than that.

There's other announcers who bring alot more to the table in terms of verbiage than "He's punching him really hard right now."

And his name is Jim Ross.
JR is the play by play guy. He's there to call the action, so Striker in no way should be compared to him. Striker is the color analyst. He's there to ANALYZE what's happening, since he's been in the ring and has experience and knowledge of what people are trying to do to each other, which is his job.
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I could take him or leave him, but the appeal of Striker, as many have said, is that he legitimately loves his job and it shows. He strikes me (no pun intended) as a guy who lives and breathes for the business and wants to literally give 110% for every broadcast, even if it means he comes off at sounding overexcited. Compare this to Cole who acts like (and is rumored to actually think that) it's just another job, and therefore gives the same passion doing play by play that he would taking your order at Burger King. Granted, his passion has improved now that he gets to play the asshole, but now he's too busy pushing his own character and his commentating has suffered for it. He hasn't yet learned to balance at playing a heel AND being a good commentator (he could learn a thing or three from Heenan). Lawler, meanwhile, doesn't work as well as a face as he did as a heel. And he has been doing this for so long he is getting stale. It feels a lot like he is just getting bored with the job, but is doing it because aside from the occasional indy show, what else would he do without the WWE. Booker T has very little talent as an commentator. I never thought he had mic skills, personally, so hearing him call matches is exceptionally annoying. He strikes me as someone who is just trying to emulate what he has heard others do, but that he has no idea of what to say when he is out there. Is it just me, or is he pretty repetitive? Sadly, without Striker, that seems to leave Matthews as the most competent guy out there. But you figure, JR got the ax, Striker is probably next. At this rate, it wont be long before they fire Matthews. It seems they don't keep good commentators long anymore.
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JR is the play by play guy. He's there to call the action, so Striker in no way should be compared to him. Striker is the color analyst. He's there to ANALYZE what's happening, since he's been in the ring and has experience and knowledge of what people are trying to do to each other, which is his job.
You're right, comparing him to JR, the play-by-play/straight man is apples and oranges. Not the best example for my argument.

Oh Striker analyzes alright.

In all seriousness though, I don't condone Vince losing 3 years off his life because Matt Striker said "marking out". The man is human and most humans at some point, if not all, say what they feel---or even blurt it out if they're emotionally invested in something or just excited about what they're seeing. Looks like Vince lost site of that years ago.

There has to be more to it with his demotion. And I don't blame Matt Striker for it, I blame Vince Qadaffi and his intimidated minions.
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Booker T is getting better, in my opinion. He could really put some guys over. I liked the way he put over The Miz recently. He has a lot to draw upon. If he talked about how he's faced Edge at WrestleMania, even before Edge won a World Title, and Edge beat him fair and square -- then he could really make Edge look amazing. The same with how he was once in a WrestleMania main event, and how he just didn't get the job done in association with Del Rio. Right now, though, Booker is getting his feet wet and isn't really adding any color -- he's essentially doing play-by-play. "Whoa, he's got him here!" Why does he have him there, Book?

It's hard for Booker, too, because he's not as eloquent as Matt Striker, so if he tries too much analysis, it's a question of "Why not just get Striker to do it?" Booker's gotta find something that sets him apart, and I think his big match experience is probably it. He's been in the ring with John Cena, The Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Edge, The Undertaker, etc. He could really just put The Undertaker over by saying "I've never been punched by someone harder than The Undertaker punched me," or Stone Cold Steve Austin by saying "I've been in this business a long time, dawg, but when you fight Stone Cold, man, you're going into something else. He's not just tough, but he's always a few steps ahead. There's no one like Stone Cold." Assuming Austin wrestles another match, of course.

Striker is just a smart, eloquent guy. Yeah, sometimes he tries too hard and it gets a little off track, but he's really trying to connect. The Cody Rhodes/Rey Mysterio analogy you used, Mj, is actually something I could see Striker saying, but it would honestly get me more into the match. Maybe not in the way you said it, but if Striker said "It's Captain America vs. Red Skull here," then it's super nerdy, but it fits, and it positions people against Cody Rhodes and behind Rey Mysterio without even doing much.

To be honest, Striker would make a brilliant third man. I like the idea of him and another color analyst clashing. That's why the JR/JBL/Striker trio I suggested appeals to me so much -- JR has got the passion, JBL has the big match experience and is great at putting people over, and Striker would be a pest to him but bring up valid points. JR would be JR, JBL would be the jock and Matt Striker would be the nerd with the knowledge.

Another trio that is probably more realistic, would be a team of Josh Mathews, Booker T & Matt Striker -- probably on SmackDown!. Booker and Striker would just clash as far as their styles go, and could argue about certain points, with neither really being overly face or heel. Josh Mathews has got the knowledge of a Matt Striker, but dials it down to play mediator and be the play-by-play guy.
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Oh Striker analyzes alright.
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Old 04-10-2011, 12:24 PM   #66
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He must have known. Don't all the commentators know everything that is going to happen?
Not always. I know with the shows that I call here as a pbp guy I don't always know or want to know what's going to happen so that as some other people stated you get a more genuine reaction on record.
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Old 04-10-2011, 12:32 PM   #67
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I assumed he was demoted because of the "I'm markin' out, bro!" comments, and rightfully so.
Kurt Angle said he was a mark for Ric Flair on RAW way back and JoMo has used the term jobber before and it didn't hurt either of them.
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Old 04-10-2011, 01:02 PM   #68
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Kurt Angle said he was a mark for Ric Flair on RAW way back and JoMo has used the term jobber before and it didn't hurt either of them.
Wrestlers =/= Announcers

Different set of rules. That is why Snuka got away with killing a hooker and Sean Mooney was fired for slapping a stripper in Las Vegas during WrestleMania IX weekend.
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Old 04-10-2011, 03:00 PM   #69
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So why is it okay for a wrestler to use the word "mark," while it's not okay for a wrestler turned announcer, who often gives us the "insider terminology" (worked or not) to do it?
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Old 04-11-2011, 12:20 AM   #70
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So why is it okay for a wrestler to use the word "mark," while it's not okay for a wrestler turned announcer, who often gives us the "insider terminology" (worked or not) to do it?
Same reason a cop can speed or run a red light and you can't. Announcers aren't in a position to do as they please, especially a glorified jobber turned announcer in Matt Striker.
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I'm not sure I agree with that.
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Old 04-12-2011, 01:20 AM   #72
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Yeah, a color analyst analysing is just horrible.
It is when you're doing it with shitty colors.

Matt Striker has said the most retarded things ever imaginable from an announcer. That's the only argument that I've even tried to make. All you're doing is tossing him off. I don't get it.
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:34 AM   #73
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Same reason a cop can speed or run a red light and you can't. Announcers aren't in a position to do as they please, especially a glorified jobber turned announcer in Matt Striker.
I would think the "damage" was worse when a wrestler used it. Commentary talks for two hours a show, and are part of the background. You might remember specific things an announcer says, but a wrestler generally talks for a more specific reason.

I don't know, I just think it's less a cop running a red light than it is a cop advocating pot use. It carries more weight than, say, my hippie-ass neighbour and his dime bag, and the cop would probably face disciplinary actions were it to get back to the PD that he did.

That being said, I think "marking out" is probably the least of Striker's problems, given he's sometimes as coherent as my drugged out neighbour, too. I don't think he's bad, per se, but when he tries to go the extra mile and fails, it shows.
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