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Old 06-14-2011, 07:26 PM   #41
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I'm going to do a list of the top 2000 rasslers. Be better than this pile of crap list.
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Old 06-14-2011, 07:53 PM   #42
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Here are some of the legends
A.J. Petrucci
Aldo Marino
Barry Horrowitz
Barry Hardy
Barry O
Bill Mulkey
Billy Travis
Bobby Walker
Boris Zhukov
Brad Armstrong
Brian Armstrong
Brian Mackney
Brooklyn Brawler
Buddy Lee Parker
Carl Fury
Charlie Fulton
Chico Rodriquez
D.H. Smith
Dave O’Hannon
Dave Barbie
Doug Vines
Duane Gill
Duke of Dorchester
Frank Marconi
Frankie Williams
Gene Ligon
George Gadaski
George South
Gillberg
Gino Carabello
Hardbody Harrison
J.T. Smith
Jake Milliman
James Earle Wright
Jeff Lang
Jim Powers
Jimmy Jack Funk
Joe Mirto
Joe Turco
Joey Maggs
Johnny Rodz
Jose Luis Rivera Kenny Jay
Lanny Poffo
Lee Wong
Len Kruger
Les Thornton
Manny Soto
Mike Boyette
Mike Jackson
Mike Sharpe
Mulkey Brothers
Outback Jack
P.J. Walker
Pat Rose
Paul Roma
Pete Doherty
Pete Sanchez
Pez Whatley
R.T. Reynolds
Randy Hogan
Randy Mulkey
Rene Goulet
The Renegade
Rick McGraw
Robbie Parliment
Rocky King
Ron Shaw
Rusty Brooks
S.D. Jones
Salvatore Bellomo
Scott Armstrong
Scott Casey
Sho Funaki
Steve Armstrong
Steve Lombardi
Super Ninja
Terry Daniels
Terry Gibbs
Terry Manton
Tony Garea
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:31 PM   #46
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Do I have to remind you of the classic matches I had in my youth?

There was the classic Intergender match I had against my sister when I made her tap out from the Figure Four to claim the highly regarded "Kellogg's Frosties title"

and then there was the critically acclaimed match against Mickey Mouse in the dangerous over the top of the bunk bed match.
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:37 PM   #47
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94. Robert Roode

In 2004 I really began to get into Total Non-Stop Action wrestling, and when I was watching TNA on Fox Sports Net, someone caught my eye. It wasn’t AJ Styles or Christopher Daniels or even Jeff Jarrett. I already knew about those guys. Sure there were some guys that I saw that I didn’t know that did impress me (Chris Sabin, Eric Young and Monty Brown to name a few) but one stood out above the rest and that was Robert Roode.

Robert Roode, or at the time Bobby Roode, didn’t stick out because he was especially talented or good on the mic. He stood out because he was one guy that I looked at and he just looked like a main event wrestler. Something about him just cried out main event wrestler. The good thing about that was he was pretty good in the ring and pretty good on the mic. I had mentioned on this board more than once in ’04 and ’05 that Robert Roode would be a main eventer within 5 years. Which brings me to the bad…

It’s 6 years later and Robert Roode is a tag team champion… just like 6 years ago and Robert Roode is still in TNA… just like 6 years ago. The failure to elevate Robert Roode to main eventer within the past 6 years is just one of many problems TNA has. But this isn’t about TNA. This is about Robert Roode. Despite Robert Roode being criminally underused and at times forgotten by TNA he still brings it every time. Beer Money is the best main stream tag team today and Roode has only gotten better on the mic and better in the ring.

And now the rumors on the internet are beginning again. “Robert Roode in line for a main event push.” I hope its true, his ability and dedication to his craft is something that should be rewarded in a more perfect world. I expect Roode to only be better as he ascends the ranks of TNA. They better let him.

Favorite Moment:
A couple of weeks ago when Robert Roode was in the ring with Ric Flair on TNA iMPACT (just before it became Impact Wrestling I think) and he was verbally jabbing back and forth with the Nature Boy, and when I saw that I couldn’t help but thing “Damn he looks like a star out there.”

Favorite Match:
EV 2.0 v. Fortune (Lethal Lockdown Match, TNA Bound for Glory 2010)
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92. Jay Briscoe
93. Mark Briscoe


I have these two number 92 and 93 because they are both essentially the same wrestler. I believe that Jay is slightly better than his younger brother Mark, but for all intents and purposes I’m going to discuss them in tandem. Jay and Mark Briscoe became the blue print of what tag teams would be in the independent scene. They are for indy tag teams what Christopher Daniels was for indy singles wrestlers. The Fallen Angel was the first real independent wrestling star (I didn’t count ECW as an independent promotion) and The Briscoes were the first real indy tag team stars.

The boys from Sandy Fork, Delaware are a unique tag team in that they weren’t simply a high flying tag team or a brawling tag team they became both. I liken The Briscoes to a cross between The Dudley Boyz and The Hardy Boyz in the this respect. They’re not just this they are also good on the mic, in-so-much-as they get across their gimmick: being redneck wrestling tough guys that always Man Up! They’re good at their characters as well as their ring work.

This is an individual list however not a tag team list. If this were my Top 100 tag teams these two would be much higher on the list. As it stands I’m judging them as individuals here and the two of these guys are very good as individual wrestlers as well. But, to separate the two of them would be a mistake. I think most that have seen them would agree that these two are probably the tag team of the first decade of the 21st century. I only hope some day the main stream wrestling fans can get a look at them.

Favorite Moment:
The springboard Doomsday Device The Briscoes pulled off through a ladder during the first ever Ladder War in ROH history.

Favorite Match:
The Briscoes [c] v. El Generico & Kevin Steen (Ladder War for the ROH World Tag Team Championship, ROH Man Up)
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I'm enjoying your list. I don't have to agree or disagree with anything because, well, it's your list. Haha.

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Good call...I'm enjoying it too.
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Thanks guys, I was starting to think no one gave a shit. As long as 1 or 2 people find entertainment in it (even if its from an ironic standpoint) I'll forge ahead.
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Hey I'll kiss your ass a little too and say that I am enjoying it and reading along. Again, not agreeing completely but that's not the point
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91. Kevin Nash

Big Sexy the Giant Killer comes in at number 91 on my list as one of the best big men in the history of the wrestling business. I remember being a fan back when he was Vinny Vegas in WCW and at the time I thought the “Roll the Dice” finishing move was such a cool finishing move. Vinny Vegas would never make it big in WCW but his mild mannered alter ego, Kevin Nash, would years later revolutionize the business. First, he would head up north to WWF and make his impact there.

Kevin Nash’s run as Diesel in the WWF wasn’t exactly one of the best title reigns in the 1990’s but when compared to the likes of Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin and The Rock its hard to distinguish yourself as something exceptional. Diesel however was a good choice to bridge the gap between Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels providing something very different than both men. His matches during this time were among his best but his real impact came in WCW.

As a founding member of the nWo Kevin Nash was responsible to revolutionizing the wrestling business and such an accomplishment cannot be understated of ignored. He was the most solid member of that nWo crew. He didn’t non-show like Scott Hall and he didn’t go off to make movies like Hollywood. His promos were always very good and he began to cut the first real inside promos I ever saw in wrestling. Though I’ve heard he was part of the problem with WCW I can’t help but look at his time there with fondness.

What really puts Kevin Nash on this list is humor. I contend that TNA and WWE are both missing the boat by not making this guy a color commentary. He’s quick witted and funny and would make an excellent addition to any announce team. I was also a big fan of Nash’s work in TNA working with the X-Division stars and working on Paparazzi Productions and the PCS alongside Alex Shelley.

Favorite Moment:
Not a liver spot, not my dog spot but MY SPOT. Though Double A ranks higher on this list and his emotional farewell to in ring competition was a sad one for me I still loved this parody promo. Nash was excellent in this promo and really built up tension between the Horsemen and the New World Order while also injecting humor.

Favorite Match:
Diesel [c] v. Bret Hart (No Holds Barred Match for the WWF World Heavyweight Championship, WWF Survivor Series 1995)
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I was gonna say how much i'm enjoying this list but then Kevin Nash appeared waaaaaaaaaaaay too high. The only consolation is that it can only get better from now on.
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1. Kevin Nash

Big Sexy the Giant Killer comes in at number 91 on my list as one of the best big men in the history of the wrestling business. I remember being a fan back when he was Vinny Vegas in WCW and at the time I thought the “Roll the Dice” finishing move was such a cool finishing move. Vinny Vegas would never make it big in WCW but his mild mannered alter ego, Kevin Nash, would years later revolutionize the business. First, he would head up north to WWF and make his impact there.

Kevin Nash’s run as Diesel in the WWF wasn’t exactly one of the best title reigns in the 1990’s but when compared to the likes of Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin and The Rock its hard to distinguish yourself as something exceptional. Diesel however was a good choice to bridge the gap between Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels providing something very different than both men. His matches during this time were among his best but his real impact came in WCW.

As a founding member of the nWo Kevin Nash was responsible to revolutionizing the wrestling business and such an accomplishment cannot be understated of ignored. He was the most solid member of that nWo crew. He didn’t non-show like Scott Hall and he didn’t go off to make movies like Hollywood. His promos were always very good and he began to cut the first real inside promos I ever saw in wrestling. Though I’ve heard he was part of the problem with WCW I can’t help but look at his time there with fondness.

What really puts Kevin Nash on this list is humor. I contend that TNA and WWE are both missing the boat by not making this guy a color commentary. He’s quick witted and funny and would make an excellent addition to any announce team. I was also a big fan of Nash’s work in TNA working with the X-Division stars and working on Paparazzi Productions and the PCS alongside Alex Shelley.

Favorite Moment:
Not a liver spot, not my dog spot but MY SPOT. Though Double A ranks higher on this list and his emotional farewell to in ring competition was a sad one for me I still loved this parody promo. Nash was excellent in this promo and really built up tension between the Horsemen and the New World Order while also injecting humor.

Favorite Match:
Diesel [c] v. Bret Hart (No Holds Barred Match for the WWF World Heavyweight Championship, WWF Survivor Series 1995)
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90. Bill DeMott

Bill DeMott ranks as number 90 on my… Wait as second—Bill Demott, really? This might be what you’re thinking but yes indeed Bill DeMott ranks on my list. Too many of you he might be better know but his silly play on word gimmick names of Hugh Morris (humorous) and General Hugh G. Rection (huge erection) or even more of you might know him as that guy from Tough Enough. I assure you he was more than just those things at least to me. His biggest claim to fame is probably that he was number 1 on Goldberg’s “Streak.”

When he was with the Dungeon of Doom I always found myself interested in his matches, something about a man his size being able to do the No Laughing Matter was very impressive to me. He also had a great grasp on his character, even if his character was just a scary dude that laughed a lot. His time within the Dungeon of Doom and First Family did little to distinguish him from the pack however. He finally separated himself when he founded the Misfits in Action.

The Misfits in Action may have been little more than a comedy stable but I thought they were the most entertaining part of the waning days of World Championship Wrestling. It was at this time that Bill DeMott, known at the time as General Rection, began to show his abilities on the mic and his ability to work high profile (relatively) matches. DeMott also distinguished himself as a color man for Velocity while with the WWE. Unfortunately, he never achieved the success I always hoped he would.

Favorite Moment:
Forgotten among the litany of wrestling parodies that have been done in wrestling over the years one of my favorites was the Misfits in Action parody of Team Canada. I thought it was particularly humorous (pun intended) because of General Rection’s mimicking of Lace Storm’s ultra serious promo style juxtaposed to the silliness of the M.I.A.

Favorite Match:
General Rection [c] v. The Franchise (First Blood Match for the WCW United States Heavyweight Championship, WCW Sin 2001)
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89. Shawn Michaels

And here is the moment where I lose all of you. Before I continue talking about the Heart Break Kid I have to remind you that this is the list of my 100 Favorite Wrestlers of All Time not the 100 Greatest Wrestlers of All Time. Despite what I’ve just written I fully expect to catch shit for this placement and I’m guessing the next 88 placements I have for the rest of the list will come with the response of “You like ‘X’ better than Shawn Michaels?” All that being said allow me to continue.

I’ve never been a fan of Shawn Michaels. From the time when he was in The Rockers to his time as a mid-level heel to his first reign at World Champion to his starting of D-X to his eventual return all the way until his retirement I’ve never been a fan. I’ve always thought that he was overrated as far as cutting promos and I thought that he lacked any of the ability, capability or desire to put any people who needed the rub over when he returned from retirement. When he returned from retirement he played the same bland face from Summer of 2002 until April of 2010 with a brief 3 week exception in Summer of 2005. His hang dog cross eyed expression during promos irritated the crap out of me time after time.

Why than is this man even on the list if I dislike him so, you might be so inclined to ask. One word: respect. What I lack in “like” of HBK I make up for in respect. I think he is the greatest in-ring performer the wrestling industry has ever seen and he has put on more great matches than anyone in the history of the business. Though you can say I’m a “hater” of his I still appreciate the work he put into being one of the best all-around wrestlers of all time. Just for sheer power of great matches he makes it up this high which in ad of itself is a tremendous complement to him.

Favorite Moments:
The Barber Shop will always be when Shawn Michaels began to separate himself from the pretenders of the wrestling industry to one of the greats. When he planted that super kick on Jannetty and tossed him through the barber shop window he became a future main eventer.

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Chris Benoit [c] v. Shawn Michaels v. Triple H (Triple Threat Match for the World Heavyweight Championship, WWE Backlash 2004)
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You know I could buy HBK being somewhere in the top 20...not to much further down the list. But seriously 89?!?!? Unless the rest is all Scott Stiener and a big joke, you have lost all credibility.
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It is a "favorites" list and not a "greatest" list, keep that and mind.

As for TL, all I'll reveal is that Bret Hart is on the list somewhere.
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I can't say I didn't expect the hate.

You'll just have to wait and see where Bret Hart ranks.
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Yeah, I'm a little surprised. Curious now to see how the rest of the list goes. For example, if you rank Bob Holly higher, regardless of the criteria, my head may implode.
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Honestly, considering your criticism of HBK, I really can't imagine Bret ranking that much higher, seeing as Shawn is arguably better in the ring, and on the mic, and Bret played the exact same character all the time too, with the exception of "I Hate America" Bret.
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Yeah, I'm a little surprised. Curious now to see how the rest of the list goes. For example, if you rank Bob Holly higher, regardless of the criteria, my head may implode.
I'm in no way saying that Shawn Michaels is only the 89th best wrestler of all time.

If I were to guess I'd day Shawn would probably be any where from the 2nd to the 7th best wrestler of all time.

This is my favorites list and Shawn only ranks 89th as far as favorites are concerned.
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Honestly, considering your criticism of HBK, I really can't imagine Bret ranking that much higher, seeing as Shawn is arguably better in the ring, and on the mic, and Bret played the exact same character all the time too, with the exception of "I Hate America" Bret.
Since this is all subjective and not objective I could agree that Shawn is better than Bret at everything and still say I like Bret more. Technically, speaking. But I can get into all that when Bret makes his appearence on the list.
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Honestly, considering your criticism of HBK, I really can't imagine Bret ranking that much higher, seeing as Shawn is arguably better in the ring, and on the mic, and Bret played the exact same character all the time too, with the exception of "I Hate America" Bret.
Its clear this isn't about ability or anything though and just an actual favourites thread.
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Its clear this isn't about ability or anything though and just an actual favourites thread.
I know that. He's said it several times. He even underlined it for me like I didn't quite get it. I feel special now.

I'm just guessing, or at least I'd hope that there is, some sort of criteria being used. Something, anything, that gives a rhyme or reason to who is considered a favorite. Seeing as the list seems thought out, I doubt it's just an arbitrary "eh, I'll stick someone here." I'm guessing he can probably give reasons why he ranks certain people over other certain people, without it being a simple "Eh, because I like him more."
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I know that. He's said it several times. He even underlined it for me like I didn't quite get it. I feel special now.

I'm just guessing, or at least I'd hope that there is, some sort of criteria being used. Something, anything, that gives a rhyme or reason to who is considered a favorite. Seeing as the list seems thought out, I doubt it's just an arbitrary "eh, I'll stick someone here." I'm guessing he can probably give reasons why he ranks certain people over other certain people, without it being a simple "Eh, because I like him more."
And I can.

When I rank Bret Hart I will clarify why he is ranked higher than Shawn.
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