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Old 08-25-2011, 01:05 PM   #41
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Old 08-25-2011, 01:07 PM   #42
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His mic skills aren't great, but they're still better than a lot of others. I think his charisma is better measured by his facial expressions, which is something he's good at.
This. You can definitely see the potential there. He knows HOW to talk. He just needs something to talk about besides the same old shtick week in and week out.

Alberto's matches have been great, but he's always in the ring with someone who also consistently puts on great matches. It's not like he's carrying the matches himself like HBK and Angle used to do. That's not to take away how good he is though. I agree that he's one of the best in ring guys they have, and I have a feeling that like Bryan, we haven't seen what this guy can really do yet.
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Old 08-25-2011, 01:10 PM   #43
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Hey now, Mark Henry has been awesome as of late.

He plays his character as good, if not better than Rio.

In-ring, he also plays the monster heel as good as anyone in the business.
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Old 08-25-2011, 01:12 PM   #44
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Del Rio is amazing. I 100% agree.
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Hey now, Mark Henry has been awesome as of late.

He plays his character as good, if not better than Rio.

In-ring, he also plays the monster heel as good as anyone in the business.
Yeah, but I think ABT meant that Del Rio is great in the ring, which I agree with.

I mean yeah, Henry has been doing a good job, but is anyone actually looking forward to Orton vs Henry?

Not many guys are working harder in the ring right now than Del Rio.
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Yeah, but I think ABT meant that Del Rio is great in the ring, which I agree with.

I mean yeah, Henry has been doing a good job, but is anyone actually looking forward to Orton vs Henry?

Not many guys are working harder in the ring right now than Del Rio.
I am. Henry's matches have been good as of late. He knows how to use his strengths, and how to work around his limitations to create a good match.
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Doesnt someone have to mention that the in ring product has been probably the best it has been on a consistent basis in probably forever? It seems either a lot of people have stepped it up or or being allowed to show off more of their talents then before.
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Doesnt someone have to mention that the in ring product has been probably the best it has been on a consistent basis in probably forever? It seems either a lot of people have stepped it up or or being allowed to show off more of their talents then before.
Agreed. It does seem like everyone's been stepping up lately or are being given more freedom to really show what they can do to put on a good match and/or promo.

Hell, even the diva's matches lately have at least been some what entertaining and I haven't wanted to just change the channel or do something else during the diva's matches recently.
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ADR's spring board enzguri is so fucking sick!


I do like his matches but mic wise not there when he was in between Punk and Cena monday he looked to be at loss for words and Cena calling him a 3rd wheel in that instance was spot on he was ridiculously overshadowed and being the champ thats not good.
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I like Del Rio, but I don't think I'd put anyone over Punk right now.
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I do like his matches but mic wise not there when he was in between Punk and Cena monday he looked to be at loss for words and Cena calling him a 3rd wheel in that instance was spot on he was ridiculously overshadowed and being the champ thats not good.
I put that more on WWE than him though. They should know putting him in there against two of the better talkers in the company's recent history with English being his second language wasn't going to make him look all that great.

Cena smashing dude's gimmick and making him look secondary to the Punk/Cena feud didn't help either.
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Why are so many of you mentioning his mic skills and character? I didn't say a fucking thing about any of that. In the ring, he is the MAN right now.

And to whoever mentioned it, yes, Del Rio/Morrison was better than Cena/Punk BECAUSE of the crazy ending to the latter. I'm not even saying that the ending to Cena/Punk didn't serve its purpose, because it definitely did, and I have no problem with it...but Del Rio just had a nice clean little diddy with Morrison, and it was the shit.

What makes Punk better than Del Rio in the ring? Nothing, for my money. Just because he says he's the best in the world and wears a t-shirt saying the same thing doesn't necessarily make it true. If Del Rio yelled out "I'M FLYING" right before the enziguiri, would that be better?
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Now let me clarify, I love CM Punk too. All across the board, the product is hot fire right now. So many awesome talents who are great at what they do...but Del Rio in the ring is the Don Dada right now. Sorry guys. It's true.
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I think people hold the fact that English isn't his first language against him.
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That's a silly thing to hold against his in-ring skills.
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I like that they have been making him more aggressive, and focusing on him in the ring/attacking people. Covers up his weakness in other areas.
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I'd have to disagree a bit and go with Punk being the top or "untouchable" for in ring quality although Del Rio would still be in the Top 5/10 right now.

Del Rio does add a lot with his mannerisms and facial expressions to his matches as well as setting up the nice spin move before going into the arm breaker finisher.
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I know your topic is wrestling skill related and youre right along with Punk, Bryan and a few others the man is a god in the ring he is a prime example of why I like wrestling ,but you have to admit mic work and wrestling are all but married these days personally I brought up monday just because its such a sore spot on an otherwise untouchable performer and it just doesn't wash easy that's all

And to whoever put Mark henry Over ADR I'll grant you hes been doing it well but when has being a monster heel ever required the in ring prowess of Bret Hart? so the I humbly say dude
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You can't really compare them directly, because their styles are so different.

All I'm saying is that Henry has been performing his style of wrestling as well as Del Rio has been performing his. Which you think is better, accounts to personal preference. This being the internet, most won't even consider Henry, as there is definitely a bias toward more agile, technical wrestlers, no matter where you go on the web.

I used to be the same way, but I've really come to appreciate the bigman style over the past few years. In part because I realized how hard it is to have a good match, when they don't have all the tools and options that smaller, quicker wrestlers do.
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Are you kidding me? The dude has been getting it DONE from bell-to-bell as of late. Every match he has is the match of the night. Daniel Bryan a couple weeks ago, Rey Mysterio, Daniel Bryan again, John Morrison...all great matches on free TV. Give this guy some time on PPV and he will blow the roof off of your face.

Nobody's touching his game right now. He's the best, and he's a great champ.

Discuss.
You're right on the money. Del Rio is a COMPLETE Champion.

...y no importa lo que digan los demas, que conste, eh! Alberto Del Rio es el mejor en estos momentos, y MERECE ser el Campeon Mundial.
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I know your topic is wrestling skill related and youre right along with Punk, Bryan and a few others the man is a god in the ring he is a prime example of why I like wrestling ,but you have to admit mic work and wrestling are all but married these days personally I brought up monday just because its such a sore spot on an otherwise untouchable performer and it just doesn't wash easy that's all

And to whoever put Mark henry Over ADR I'll grant you hes been doing it well but when has being a monster heel ever required the in ring prowess of Bret Hart? so the I humbly say dude
I'm not discrediting mic work as a key factor to a complete "superstar" at all, but what I AM talking about in this very thread is ring work alone. Is it too much to ask to separate the two for the sake of what I'm saying?

That being said, his mic work is solid too. He's about to have a lot to talk about very soon here, so keep watching. He's gonna blow your mind. Even more than Heath Slater.
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Old 08-26-2011, 09:16 AM   #69
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I'm not discrediting mic work as a key factor to a complete "superstar" at all, but what I AM talking about in this very thread is ring work alone. Is it too much to ask to separate the two for the sake of what I'm saying?

That being said, his mic work is solid too. He's about to have a lot to talk about very soon here, so keep watching. He's gonna blow your mind. Even more than Heath Slater.
No its not asking too much at all I just found it irritating and had to vent, like I said it stuck in my mind just because it was so noticable and as was stated it has nothing to do with english being his second language and everything to do with him being made into the odd man out in a confrontation between two guys (Punk and Cena )I was just abit irritated that he's the damn WWE Champ and hes booked as an afterthought to them.

Having said that as I a said phenomenal worker and I do love that Cena Has focused his rage on ADR as I'm hopeful this fued will force Cena further away from being a five move miracle man and more of a entertaining wrestler and make ADR into more of a bastard heel


So in summation you are right sir ADR is the man in ring right now

Ive yet to completely warm up to him but I'd be lying if I said he wasn't growing on me by leaps and bounds everyday.

Oh Slater blew my mind the day he was in the ring and i didnt end up shooting at the TV screen as a result of his presence.
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Old 08-26-2011, 10:55 AM   #70
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Associating "chimichangas" with Spanish is SO 1980's...
I only heard the word for the first time a couple months ago .

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No its not asking too much at all I just found it irritating and had to vent, like I said it stuck in my mind just because it was so noticable and as was stated it has nothing to do with english being his second language and everything to do with him being made into the odd man out in a confrontation between two guys (Punk and Cena )I was just abit irritated that he's the damn WWE Champ and hes booked as an afterthought to them.
For me, they rectified that situation at the end of the show. ADR attacking Cena in the way that he did was almost screaming "AM I AN AFTERTHOUGHT NOW!?". But that's just my take.
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I agree with XL, but yeah, that's neither here nor there.

Well, THERE, but not here...
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Old 08-27-2011, 03:21 AM   #72
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My man D. Bryan gets busy too. Probably the closest to Del Rio at the moment.
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My man D. Bryan gets busy too. Probably the closest to Del Rio at the moment.
Totally but I'm hoping he gets on some kinda winning streak before he cashes in I'd also like to see him step up the viciousness like kurt angle or a certain wrestler who may or may not have had the name Benoit.
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