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Old 09-29-2011, 06:17 PM   #1
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I've always been a big fan of Reys, and have always defended him when people (aka PROBABLY most of the people in this thread) were shitting on him.

Loved him in WCW. His matches in WWE are consistantly great, but sadly his booking isn't. I know he appears to kids etc, but he's been playing the same character for the last nine years! Kinda boring now y'know?
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:18 PM   #2
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Can professional wrestling really go 'too far'? I mean, really? It's professional fucking wrestling.

As far as business, didn't the proceeds from Eddie's merch all go to his family? If that's the case, keeping him relevant on TV could only help them, which I think is noble.
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:21 PM   #3
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As far as business, didn't the proceeds from Eddie's merch all go to his family? If that's the case, keeping him relevant on TV could only help them, which I think is noble.
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Old 09-29-2011, 07:07 PM   #4
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Can professional wrestling really go 'too far'? I mean, really? It's professional fucking wrestling.

As far as business, didn't the proceeds from Eddie's merch all go to his family? If that's the case, keeping him relevant on TV could only help them, which I think is noble.
Had forgotten about that... And look how much heat Vicki continues to get... And camera time... That helps to pay those bills too...
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I was a huge mark during his underdog days on Smackdown. I love Rey Mysterio's in-ring work but there are certain things that I highly dislike. The way he sets up his opponent for the 619 makes me want to puke sometimes. The way he defeats superheavyweights like Kane, Big Show and Wade Barrett makes me want to bang my head on the wall.

On the other hand, there are certain things that I simply love about him. Like the mask thingy he does with the kids (so adorable). And also on a personal note, I look up to him. He is like a ray of inspiration for a little guy like me.
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On a slightly related note, how awesome was it when Rey Mysterio was doing his little mask thing with the audience, only to be punched in the face and jumped by Chris Jericho from the audience? That was brilliant.
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To be fair, I seriously doubt any of you would decline an offer to win a World Championship at Wrestlemania in a storyline based/dedicated to your dead friend.

If you do, you're a moron.
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:35 PM   #8
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To be fair, I seriously doubt any of you would decline an offer to win a World Championship at Wrestlemania in a storyline based/dedicated to your dead friend.

If you do, you're a moron.
There's a difference between accepting/refusing the storyline and pointing out a personal problem with a fellow worker getting cheap heat by exploiting one of your friends recent death.
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:44 PM   #9
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pointing out a personal problem with a fellow worker getting cheap heat by exploiting one of your friends recent death.
Are you referring to Orton's comments? I'm kinda lost here...
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I'm going to take this a step further and say that I thought it was more in poor taste to pretend that Vince McMahon was dead.
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I think any wrestler that is a WWE mass marketed babyface for a prolonged period of time will generate resentment from some fans regardless of their in ring performance.

I do agree that Rey is better when he isn't in the "Giant Killer" role or as World Heavyweight Champion. He could probably do with a better finisher for larger opponents too. Seeing him hit the 619 on a guy like Kane is groan worthy.
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:47 PM   #12
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:52 PM   #13
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Heat is heat, if you ask me. I don't think Eddie would have minded himself.
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:52 PM   #14
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Nah come on. None of us knew any of these guys personally. Eddie and Rey were close, and I'm sure Orton was friends too. They know when they're going too far, and I'm sure they knew Eddie wouldn't have minded. The guy grew up in the wrestling industry, he'd 'get it'.
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Old 09-29-2011, 06:53 PM   #15
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I know if I was in Eddie shoes, I wouldn't have minded a single bit.

Mind you, it would be totally moot since I'm dead anyway.
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Even still, though...this thread is about why people hate Rey Mysterio. Can you really hold the fact that he didn't get upset with Randy Orton (the guy who ACTUALLY SAID IT) against him? I think not.
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Of course not. I doubt Orton would have even thought about saying something like that without Rey's blessing.
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This is like the 78465764675 time this has been discussed. Can we just move the fuck on already?
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This is like the 78465764675 time this has been discussed. Can we just move the fuck on already?
What? You've only been here for a month. Shut up and discuss Rey Mysterio.
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What? You've only been here for a month. Shut up and discuss Rey Mysterio.
His name really is ironic. He NEVER posts anything positive, he's always bitching and criticizing...

...hence, he really is no "fun"
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What? You've only been here for a month. Shut up and discuss Rey Mysterio.

I've been here for 7 years, you limey cunt.
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16th August 2011 was seven years ago?
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Rey Mysterio is the man, as long as he doesn't have a microphone or a top tier championship.
This is pretty accurate, really.

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not to mention he was one of Eddie's legit best friends. Pretty sure he was in a better position to decide what was "too much" in regards to Eddie and his family as opposed to some people on the internet.
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He's short. Lucha + WWE Style Doesn't Work. He cannot cut a promo. His look is goofy. He looks gassed up for a short guy. Due to that Lucha-esque style with his size he is severely limited as to who he can worth with. He's generally a mid-card, low-card talent who has been promoted as a Heavyweight. The concept is laughable. He accentuates the fakeness of wrestling.
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So with this statement, I'm assuming you're ignoring all the great matches he's had with guys of all sizes in WWE, yes?
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So with this statement, I'm assuming you're ignoring all the great matches he's had with guys of all sizes in WWE, yes?
He has never had a "Great" match with someone over 6'9. He can barely maneuver with really stocky guys as well. If Rey Mysterio was in a lucha company or the indies I would say he's amazing, but he's not. He's not a WWE-Sized guy and he shouldn't pretend. It makes the title look bad to have it on him from a wrestling standpoint, but as business it makes complete sense. Kids will buy his shit. That's all that matters to WWE.
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Old 09-30-2011, 08:12 PM   #29
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I hate him for being pushed due to eddie's death. If Eddie was still alive mysterio would be nowhere near where he is
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I hate him for being pushed due to eddie's death. If Eddie was still alive mysterio would be nowhere near where he is

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Old 09-30-2011, 05:14 AM   #34
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His matches have become predictable to me. I loved Rey Mysterio in his WCW days. If I go back and watch one of those matches, I'm in awe. If I watch his matches now...meh. Not horrible but definitely not the same caliber. Though, it's not all his fault. He's aged and had injuries and all that.
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:26 AM   #35
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I think the only major gripe I've had with Rey over the last few years was when they put the WHC on him for the second time.

IIRC, Rey was due some time off to rest up (for a change) but Taker went out on injury (for a change), I think due to Rey injuring his face. Rey was asked to postpone his rest and all of a sudden he's World Champ. Just kinda stunk of "If you delay your rest we'll put the strap on you".

Again, I guess Rey would be stupid to say no in that situation but it just kinda sat wrong with me.

In fairness to the guy he has had some superb matches over the last couple of years (with Jericho, Punk, Rhodes, I even enjoyed the match with Cena on Raw).
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Rey Mysterio was going to be a World Heavyweight Champion regardless of if Eddie passed away or not. They were in the process of building him (using Eddie Guerrero) since about WrestleMania 21. Now, he may not have won the 2006 Royal Rumble; but I guarantee you that Mysterio would have "won the big one." Anyone who doesn't think so is "fucking delusional."

Also, Rey is a tremendous worker who moves tons and tons of merchandise and gets people invested into his matches. He is possibly one of the best choices for a World Champion in the entire company -- even as he is moving into a stage of his career where he is not as healthy and reliable (as far as being on the road goes) as he once was. Mysterio should be making some new stars along the way; but Rey's World Heavyweight Title win last year and WWE Title win this year were all sound business decisions to pad the resume of Mysterio in case they need him to step-up to the main event.

Personally, his character leaves a lot for me love. I'm not a big fan of characters so simple. Also, Mysterio would be a good example for the "babyfaces that are actually huge dicks in kayfabe" award. But all those are minor, personal gripes that do not get in the way of an objective view on the man's career. If you were starting up a wrestling promotion, you'd want Rey Mysterio on-board. He'd make you a shit-ton of cash.
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Rey Mysterio was going to be a World Heavyweight Champion regardless of if Eddie passed away or not. They were in the process of building him (using Eddie Guerrero) since about WrestleMania 21. Now, he may not have won the 2006 Royal Rumble; but I guarantee you that Mysterio would have "won the big one." Anyone who doesn't think so is "fucking delusional."

Also, Rey is a tremendous worker who moves tons and tons of merchandise and gets people invested into his matches. He is possibly one of the best choices for a World Champion in the entire company -- even as he is moving into a stage of his career where he is not as healthy and reliable (as far as being on the road goes) as he once was. Mysterio should be making some new stars along the way; but Rey's World Heavyweight Title win last year and WWE Title win this year were all sound business decisions to pad the resume of Mysterio in case they need him to step-up to the main event.

Personally, his character leaves a lot for me love. I'm not a big fan of characters so simple. Also, Mysterio would be a good example for the "babyfaces that are actually huge dicks in kayfabe" award. But all those are minor, personal gripes that do not get in the way of an objective view on the man's career. If you were starting up a wrestling promotion, you'd want Rey Mysterio on-board. He'd make you a shit-ton of cash.
There is no information to support this, but there is information to detract from it. Eddie was going to win the WHC. This is known.
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There is no information to support this, but there is information to detract from it. Eddie was going to win the WHC. This is known.
Rey was booked to go over Eddie for pretty much all of 2005. If you don't think that they were grooming him to get a boost up the card, you're nuts. Now, it probably wouldn't have happened until after WrestleMania 22 (where I imagine the plan was to do Eddie Guerrero vs. Batista for the World Heavyweight Title), but I'm sure that we would have seen Rey with the World Title at some point.
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Rey Mysterio was going to be a World Heavyweight Champion regardless of if Eddie passed away or not. They were in the process of building him (using Eddie Guerrero) since about WrestleMania 21. Now, he may not have won the 2006 Royal Rumble; but I guarantee you that Mysterio would have "won the big one." Anyone who doesn't think so is "fucking delusional."

Also, Rey is a tremendous worker who moves tons and tons of merchandise and gets people invested into his matches. He is possibly one of the best choices for a World Champion in the entire company -- even as he is moving into a stage of his career where he is not as healthy and reliable (as far as being on the road goes) as he once was. Mysterio should be making some new stars along the way; but Rey's World Heavyweight Title win last year and WWE Title win this year were all sound business decisions to pad the resume of Mysterio in case they need him to step-up to the main event.

Personally, his character leaves a lot for me love. I'm not a big fan of characters so simple. Also, Mysterio would be a good example for the "babyfaces that are actually huge dicks in kayfabe" award. But all those are minor, personal gripes that do not get in the way of an objective view on the man's career. If you were starting up a wrestling promotion, you'd want Rey Mysterio on-board. He'd make you a shit-ton of cash.
Can you example how Mysterio is a dick in kayfabe?
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