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Old 10-13-2011, 10:01 PM   #41
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Yeah, but Morrison has also had great matches with Dloph Ziggler, Sheamus, CM Punk, Chris Jericho and Rey Mysterio. You can argue those guys carried HIM, but IMO Morrison is no slouch in the ring.
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:03 PM   #42
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So that's why Steiner won the Belt
Are you questioning Scott Steiner, sir?
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Don't EVER question Scott Steiner. Fuck's wrong with you, boy?
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Yeah, but Morrison has also had great matches with Dloph Ziggler, Sheamus, CM Punk, Chris Jericho and Rey Mysterio. You can argue those guys carried HIM, but IMO Morrison is no slouch in the ring.
his ladder match with jeff hardy was pretty awesome
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Old 10-14-2011, 01:52 AM   #45
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:06 AM   #46
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is he really a risk not to slip away?
Did Steve Austin seem like a risky loss when WCW released him?
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morrison could be the shawn michaels of his generation.
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Old 10-14-2011, 05:30 AM   #48
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Honestly, I rarely want to see a match where people flip for no reason. It's fun once in a while, don't get me wrong, but so much of the shit Morrison does is useless to the story of the match and in fact makes little to no sense.

When I see Shawn Michaels do the Moonsault it means something because the match has built to that. It's not a very flashy move, but it gets the job done and looks good. When I see Morrison do the Starship Pain after seeing his standing shooting star, his standing moonsault and a twisting dive out of the ring all within a five minute span I tend to care less.
Yes, totally agree.

Think Morrison believes his own hype too much.
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Old 10-14-2011, 05:43 AM   #49
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Meh. The only thing i liked about him were his glasses. And that entrance. Radical concept, brah.
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Old 10-14-2011, 05:54 AM   #51
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Did Steve Austin seem like a risky loss when WCW released him?
Harley Race told Bischoff he was making a huge mistake. Maybe Harley knew something Bisch didn't?

The following all happened on Air:

Austin was regularly called "possibly the Best TV Champion in WCW History."

Heyman introduced him as the "World's Greatest Athlete" when he joined the Dangerous Alliance

Ric Flair, in a Flair for the Gold segment with the Hollywood Blondes, said that "Arn tells me you're gonna be The Man one day."

Truth be Told, if Hogan hadn't joined WCW, Austin easily could have been World Champion.
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Old 10-14-2011, 12:57 PM   #52
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Yeah, but Morrison has also had great matches with Dloph Ziggler, Sheamus, CM Punk, Chris Jericho and Rey Mysterio. You can argue those guys carried HIM, but IMO Morrison is no slouch in the ring.
If you were trying to disprove the "good wrestler makes a so-so wrestler look better" theory, you picked really bad examples.
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Old 10-14-2011, 01:26 PM   #53
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Did Steve Austin seem like a risky loss when WCW released him?
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Old 10-14-2011, 01:36 PM   #54
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Matches with Styles,Dnaiels,Joe,Angle,RVD,Lynn,Roode,Storm. These are reasons why I'm glad he's leaving. And even though Melina is a chickenhead she is a decent womens wrestler,and TNA knows how to use women's WRESTLERS.So they should both go...and tell Trips and Vince to come up with better t-shirt slogans. Cause his may be the worst I've seen.
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Morrison fucked himself on his return, here he is confronting a guy that has "seriously injured" him/put him on the shelf for a period of time and when they finally come face to face, Morrison shows nothing whatsoever. It's all about the little things and Morrison doesn't seem capable of showing any of them. Kelly Kelly did a much better job when she went psycho on Beth on RAW a week or two and she's fucking abysmal.
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Morrison fucked himself on his return, here he is confronting a guy that has "seriously injured" him/put him on the shelf for a period of time and when they finally come face to face, Morrison shows nothing whatsoever. It's all about the little things and Morrison doesn't seem capable of showing any of them. Kelly Kelly did a much better job when she went psycho on Beth on RAW a week or two and she's fucking abysmal.
Did you quote this from somewhere? Having the strangest feeling of deja-vu. I'm sure I've read that somewhere before, word-for-word.
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here maybe, I often slate Morrison/mention his return and call Kelly abysmal but that's about it mane
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Old 10-14-2011, 08:58 PM   #60
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Just spreading internet rumors. I hear that McMahon only pushes real men and not guys who lose fights in the locker room.
then why is Sheamus gettin pushed? Yoshi Tatsu kicked his ass
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then why is Sheamus gettin pushed? Yoshi Tatsu kicked his ass
Yeah, but Sheamus wasn't screwing Yoshi's woman...he just kept using his protein shake cup or whatever. And that was at the time the two were in FCW. MoJo on the other hand, was a puss in McMahon's eyes because the way he didn't stand as a man towards Melina's affair with Batista, Mike Knox, etc.
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The WWE clearly wants to push Morrison. They don't have it "in for him." The dude finds himself constantly on PPVs and getting the chance to impress people with his moves. They give the guy merchandise to market him. They want John Morrison to be money -- it's a case of whether or not Morrison gets in his own way. The dude apparently has some shit to work out, and selfishly, I want to see him work it out, because I love the man's work.

If Morrison gets his head screwed on straight, he'll get another chance to make money. Look at all the chances guys like Jeff Hardy have gotten. Do you really think that Jeff Hardy would win a fight with, say, The Undertaker? Of course not -- but the guy still got quite a few World Championship reigns, despite being an absolute mess, because he was money.

If Morrison leaves the company, it'll be his own choice. Vince will keep him around because chicks and kids would dig the guy's looks and moves, and he's an amazing mid-carder at the very least. In a few years, after Morrison is more broken down, older, and if he's not showing any intention of fulfilling on his potential -- then we can talk about Vince fucking the dude off.

I still think the best thing for Morrison is a move to SmackDown!. Yeah, it's one of those "IWC standbys," but in Morrison's case, I think there's a point to it. The guy goes to SmackDown!, where matches are longer and he can get over primarily on his workrate. They can also tape promos for the guy, which can further him along and allow him to fuck up without anyone knowing. Also, because SmackDown! isn't the show, they can both use him while also keeping him down the pecking order at the same time.

I just want to see JoMo vs. Tyson Kidd...
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And on Smackdown there's the potential for a John Morrison/Christian feud.
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:13 AM   #64
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I just want to see JoMo vs. Tyson Kidd...


This was a fun match and it stands out for me because of the sick ass Russian Leg Sweep Kidd pulls off @ 4:04
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And on Smackdown there's the potential for a John Morrison/Christian feud.
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Quite simply, Morrison sucks. Nothing about him seems real and he clearly doesn't have the respect of his peers and why would he after being such a bitch for the last 18 months?

I fully expect him to be jobbed out for the next couple of months, wished the best in his future endeavours and jumping on the TNA bandwagon, probably to lose to Hulk Hogan who will of course be World Champion around this time.
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Clearly doesn't have the respect of his peers? It seems that if you don't have Randy Orton's respect, he doesn't work with you. Didn't Morrison and Orton just team together on RAW?
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Clearly doesn't have the respect of his peers? It seems that if you don't have Randy Orton's respect, he doesn't work with you. Didn't Morrison and Orton just team together on RAW?
Wow, you would almost think it's a scripted show, wouldn't you? Ever see the Val Venis videos? I doubt he's the only one who thinks what he does of Johnny boy.
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Wow, you would almost think it's a scripted show, wouldn't you? Ever see the Val Venis videos? I doubt he's the only one who thinks what he does of Johnny boy.
Idiot. That was kayfabe
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The WWE clearly wants to push Morrison. They don't have it "in for him." The dude finds himself constantly on PPVs and getting the chance to impress people with his moves. They give the guy merchandise to market him. They want John Morrison to be money -- it's a case of whether or not Morrison gets in his own way. The dude apparently has some shit to work out, and selfishly, I want to see him work it out, because I love the man's work.

If Morrison gets his head screwed on straight, he'll get another chance to make money. Look at all the chances guys like Jeff Hardy have gotten. Do you really think that Jeff Hardy would win a fight with, say, The Undertaker? Of course not -- but the guy still got quite a few World Championship reigns, despite being an absolute mess, because he was money.

If Morrison leaves the company, it'll be his own choice. Vince will keep him around because chicks and kids would dig the guy's looks and moves, and he's an amazing mid-carder at the very least. In a few years, after Morrison is more broken down, older, and if he's not showing any intention of fulfilling on his potential -- then we can talk about Vince fucking the dude off.

I still think the best thing for Morrison is a move to SmackDown!. Yeah, it's one of those "IWC standbys," but in Morrison's case, I think there's a point to it. The guy goes to SmackDown!, where matches are longer and he can get over primarily on his workrate. They can also tape promos for the guy, which can further him along and allow him to fuck up without anyone knowing. Also, because SmackDown! isn't the show, they can both use him while also keeping him down the pecking order at the same time.

I just want to see JoMo vs. Tyson Kidd...
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Old 10-20-2011, 03:51 PM   #72
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Is this the normal level of intellect of a John Morrison mark or are you just a 'special' one?
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Not really sure if I should expect more from someone who suggested Taker's undefeated streak should end by DQ or should wrestle his last match against Mark Henry or what...
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You obviously didn't get the event I was referencing and how it supports my point. Not trying to claim to have "inside knowledge," but there is enough going around to support the claim that if Randy Orton does not like working with you, he's not going to work with you. And the dude is clearly in the position to say so. He's certainly got more power within the industry than Eugene, Ken Anderson or Kofi Kingston.

And I never suggested that The Undertaker wrestle his last match against Mark Henry. I presented the possibility that from a kayfabe point of view (even though the match would not be a classic), The Undertaker facing Mark Henry at the forthcoming WrestleMania could be built up as a significant event.

And Taker losing the streak by DQ would be an absolute heat machine. Taker's fans get solace in the fact that he was never pinned, new stars are made (people would be talking about them) and fans would legitimately want to see the cheating scum involved get their heads ripped off. It'd be Roddy Piper heat, I tells ya. Even KK said that the idea was not terrible (although not the most beautiful thing ever suggested -- of course a clean finish would solidify someone more), and that dude hates me.
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