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Old 10-19-2011, 11:40 PM   #41
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Very sad. That match the promoter made him go out and do was painful to watch. Is it available on youtube in full? It's like a car crash, can't help but watch it even if you shouldn't be. Sad to see him come to that.
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:43 PM   #42
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Definitely teared up. Such a horribly sad story of self destruction, addiction, and overindulgence. My girlfriend even almost cried and she has no idea who Scott Hall is.
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:44 PM   #43
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being that every story on E:60 is devastatingly sad this should be fun to watch
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Old 10-20-2011, 12:55 AM   #44
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Watching those old clips of him as Razor Ramon and Scott Hall in the NWO was so bittersweet...he was AWESOME, but to see him then, and look at him now, it's sad.
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Damn. Don't know what made me think this would be a good thing to watch before going to sleep.
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Old 10-20-2011, 02:29 AM   #46
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Seeing clips of him in his prime, then seeing him today...sad. It's a harsh thing to say, but I can't see this ending well.

Most surprising thing to me was the fact that he is only 53 and has a pacemaker.
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Old 10-20-2011, 04:27 AM   #47
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That was one of the saddest things I have ever watched. I loved Scott Hall growing up. It really is a shame it had to turn out like this for him.

Maybe teaching his son how to wrestle will at least make his time left happier. As much as I hate to say it, it doesn't look like there's much of that left.
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Old 10-20-2011, 04:45 AM   #48
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It's like he does drugs and drinks because longs for the day when he was a wrestling star and could never accept that his time was up, yet his time came up precisely because of his drug and alcohol abuse...

...it's sad.
Given that the abuse started DURING his time at the top, I doubt that's the issue. He's not the usual case of a guy that "can't let go", I believe he would still have a job to this day if not for his so-called demons.

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I know, I hope no wrestler who is a friend of Scott's or admires him works for that guy.

Dude was like "Scott Hall is not my friend. I advertised Scott Hall, so I showed everyone who Scott Hall really is".

Fuck him.
I wonder if that would be your take if you'd paid/travelled to the show just to see Hall? Or, if you were the guy that had forked out to book Hall and likely pay his travel/accommodation?
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Old 10-20-2011, 06:01 AM   #49
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Just seen the documentary, pretty sad. Can't say much.
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Old 10-20-2011, 07:31 AM   #50
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I feel so bad for Cody Hall. Poor kid having to deal with all this...
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:11 AM   #51
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How is it that I never heard about his Murder?
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How is it that I never heard about his Murder?
Same. Was like wtf.
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:18 AM   #53
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Also, he was fucking HUGE in the AWA, like he must have had 20-30 pounds more of muscle then over his WWE/ECW days.
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:20 AM   #54
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Or, if you were the guy that had forked out to book Hall and likely pay his travel/accommodation?
I would be pissed, and would ask to be reimbursed for the travel/accommodations, but I wouldn't shove him out there like some circus animal, for people to laugh it. In the end, I would be pissed, but he's still a human being. Right thing to do would be to immediately get him back into a hospital.
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:23 AM   #55
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Also, he was fucking HUGE in the AWA, like he must have had 20-30 pounds more of muscle then over his WWE/ECW days.
Didn't he come to WWF right around the time of their first big steroid scandal? That might explain why he slimmed down so much.
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Old 10-20-2011, 11:57 AM   #56
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Just watched it.
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Old 10-20-2011, 01:28 PM   #57
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he talks about his AWA size/slimming down in one of his RF vids
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Old 10-20-2011, 01:29 PM   #58
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Is this the first ever mention of his murder? Pretty crazy.
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Given that the abuse started DURING his time at the top, I doubt that's the issue. He's not the usual case of a guy that "can't let go", I believe he would still have a job to this day if not for his so-called demons.

Dude, he still dresses as if it was 1997 and he was in the NWO. He still calls himself "The Bad Guy".

There are certainly other issues, but also, he can't let go.
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Old 10-20-2011, 03:06 PM   #60
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Well I watched it this morning and it was pretty brutal (just when you think things can't get any sadder than the Jake Roberts story) but equally fascinating.

My two cents on things: Firstly, the promoter that booked him is a complete cretin, who has exposed who he is to the world.

Secondly, I can't believe I never heard of Scott Hall killing someone before.

Lastly, through the WWE, his friends and his son, I hope Scott Hall can get through this but to me it would appear that everything is linked together, as his ex-wife says. So the idea of his son wanting to become a wrestler seems like a really bad idea to me as far as helping Hall get better.

For now though I'm just going to have to carry on, hoping that it won't be tomorrow that I read about his death on here or any other wrestling website.
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Dude, he still dresses as if it was 1997 and he was in the NWO. He still calls himself "The Bad Guy".

There are certainly other issues, but also, he can't let go.
What would you have him wear while wrestling?
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It was tough watching the ESPN E:60 piece on Scott Hall last night.

I worked with Scott in WCW. I not only considered him a close friend, he was an ally. Scott and Kevin Nash looked out for me personally and professionally. Now that Scott’s at low ebb, I wish I could do something. But what? What makes one man stop when another man can’t? It seems arbitrary. It’s mystifying.

Scott was one of the best big men in wrestling history. Good worker, flawless understanding of the business, and he was COOL. Better looking than 10 movie stars, and drop-dead COOL. Can’t learn that. You are, or you aren’t.

The nWo invasion in 1996 revolutionized wrestling. Took the biz to a place it had never been before, and probably won’t visit again.

The nWo had so little to do with Hulk Hogan’s turn, and everything to do with Scott Hall and Kevin Nash. It wasn’t rancid meat, it was new-age COOL. I was there. I remember. Heck, I even went to court to discuss it. At length.

Now, it seems like a million years ago. For Scott, I bet it seems even longer. What do you do when they stop chanting your name?

But listen to Scott talk now, even on E:60: “From the penthouse to the outhouse to the halfway house.” That guy’s still in there. Still drop-dead COOL.

I got fired by WCW in 1996. Said something on the 900# some high muckety-muck didn’t like. Nash called: “Don’t worry. We’ll take care of it.”

Kev and Scott TERRORIZED WCW’s publicity department for three weeks. Refused to do media, verbally harassed my perceived enemies, just went INSANE, beat it to death like only Kev and Scott can. (I learned from the best.)

About a month later, WCW called: “Look, you GOTTA come back.” I did. At a 50 percent raise.

That’s the kind of friend Scott Hall can be. I only wish I could return the favor.

I haven’t talked to Scott in years. Afraid to. Don’t know what he’d be like. I feel like I’ve let him down. Like I should be there for him.

The very least I can do is let the world know Scott Hall is a good man, and a good friend. He’s got a good soul. He’s just wired bad.
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God, I wish he'd stay clean and sober. He sounds fine when he's talking in that video. Probably because he is.

Hopefully his sons influence is shining through.
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Yea never knew Razor killed a guy. That would mess me up too.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:15 PM   #65
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Feeling sorry for him is NOT the answer. I read all your responses to the documentary, you shouldn't be sad, you should be angry. This guy wasted his talent, he could have been a GREAT teacher and mentor to the young guys of today.

This is his own doing, and someone needs to tell him straight. Anything else is a disservice to him, his family, and in the end could cost him his life.

WAKE THE FUCK UP SCOTT.
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I'm sure that is a brand new line of thinking
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Honestly, going by this and everything else, there is no getting him straight at this point. Even if he completely sobered up, the man has a pace maker and is taking 11 pills to keep him alive.

And it's not like that hasn't been tried. He was in rehab 11 times. WWE spent over $100k on him through their system alone.

I'm not going to be angry at someone whose demons have destroyed him. I'd have a different attitude if I thought there were hope for him, but the sad thing is that I don't.
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according to the front page he and his son are not on speaking terms
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Scott Hall needs better drinking buddies. All the people in the video were Debbie Downers. Let the guy party!
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Feeling sorry for him is NOT the answer. I read all your responses to the documentary, you shouldn't be sad, you should be angry. This guy wasted his talent, he could have been a GREAT teacher and mentor to the young guys of today.

This is his own doing, and someone needs to tell him straight. Anything else is a disservice to him, his family, and in the end could cost him his life.

WAKE THE FUCK UP SCOTT.
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Scott Hall needs better drinking buddies. All the people in the video were Debbie Downers. Let the guy party!
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Old 10-21-2011, 08:25 AM   #74
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Chug Scott Chug, bad ass mofo
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Feeling sorry for him is NOT the answer. I read all your responses to the documentary, you shouldn't be sad, you should be angry. This guy wasted his talent, he could have been a GREAT teacher and mentor to the young guys of today.

This is his own doing, and someone needs to tell him straight. Anything else is a disservice to him, his family, and in the end could cost him his life.

WAKE THE FUCK UP SCOTT.
Alcoholism doesn't have anything to do with environment or genetics. It's 100% completely about someone telling the world to fuck off.
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:12 AM   #76
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Not much to be said that hasn't already. I watched this yesterday and woke up with this feeling.

It seems that all the people in the world care about Scott, he has support anywhere he looks including financial from WWE for rehab. If he's truly sorry for ruining his family then he would wake up and fix himself.

It's to the point where you have to say "You get what you deserve" and what comes around goes around. It's all on Scott, and for anyone in this thread to try and blame Scott's downfall on the lack of "klique" support is ludacris. Scott Hall is a 52 year old man and it's nobodies job or business to drag him outa the mud other than himself.
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Alcoholism doesn't have anything to do with environment or genetics. It's 100% completely about someone telling the world to fuck off.


Come on now are you a doctor?

I'm not trying to diss what you said but get real that's a huge generalization.
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Alcoholism isn't a disease either. It's fucking awesome. Scott Hall is a champ just like Mickey Mantle, Billy Martin and all the other boozehounds who rule! Don't stop Scott. Drink like a champ today!
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Old 10-21-2011, 11:30 AM   #79
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I also gotta say that I'm pissed at Scott for fucking up his WCW run. He was going to hold the belt eventually and maybe he did with his Sid feud I don't remember, but it didn't mean anything if he did.

I could have been cool to see Scott cost Nash the title at Starcade instead of Goldberg, he could have really been a huge draw as a babyface against the NWO. I really prefer him as a babyface I think his work was much better.
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