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Old 01-22-2012, 01:11 AM   #41
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Is there a link to his match with Generico that makes up like half of that highlight video? Looks pretty insane. Especially that top rop reverse frankensteiner
This is the best I could find from that match

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Old 01-22-2012, 01:29 AM   #42
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so the top rope reverse frankensteiner wasn't even part of the finish...

you know, I like indy wrestling, and I even like the mindless unnecessarily flippy matches with 90 false finishes, but what the fuck
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Old 01-22-2012, 08:00 AM   #43
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so the top rope reverse frankensteiner wasn't even part of the finish...

you know, I like indy wrestling, and I even like the mindless unnecessarily flippy matches with 90 false finishes, but what the fuck
Jim Cornett said it best: used to we pretended to hurt each other and the bought it, now we kill each other and they dont.
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Old 01-22-2012, 10:17 AM   #44
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:18 PM   #45
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When Evan Bourne hits his third strike (based on current trends I'm going to say about 27 seconds after his current suspension is up... at least Jeff Hardy had enough time for a cup of coffee between suspensions) PAC should be the one to take his spot.
Personally, I like M-Dog 20 more than Evan Borne. Having him on Tough Enough made it even a bigger joke. The thing about guys like this is they dont "tell a story" in the ring. It's just big move, high flying, reversal, almost a pin, repeat.
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Old 01-23-2012, 12:23 AM   #46
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Eeeh, I wouldn't make that comparison. lol
I would. And did. Point was, Lesnar, as far as anyone knew, sight unseen, just "looked the shit"... much like guys like Batista, Nathan Jones, Jackson Andrews, etc... and wowing over how impressive he looked. No one was asking to hear promos, ready to shit on him because he couldn't cut one (and to be truly fair, he sucked ass at them early on, got better with time, but still...). The "wow" factor for a guy like PAC is in a different way, but it's still the same issue. Give him a mouthpiece if he can't get it done by talking.

Why is it much more important for a guy to be able to talk AS WELL AS dazzle people in the ring as opposed to someone who just stands around looking massive and menacing and may/my not be able to talk for squat?
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Old 01-23-2012, 12:25 AM   #47
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because people look at a guy lesnar and go "that guy could beat anyones ass."
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Old 01-23-2012, 12:26 AM   #48
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wrestling may be a work, but looking tough will always be at its core. its a key component of the work itself.
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Old 01-23-2012, 12:43 AM   #49
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Pac put on 20 lbs of muscle but still is not huge.
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Old 01-24-2012, 01:25 PM   #50
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I met Zack Sabre Jr once.

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Old 01-24-2012, 01:51 PM   #51
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He is physically gifted... he is capable of doing pretty much anything, as he is strong as fuck with the extra 20 pounds of muscle and still quick. What he should be doing is watching Dynamite Kid matches and learn something about psychology while also being able to high fly. Or even more importantly, Chris Jericho matches. However I must say, from listening to his interview with Colt he is a definite student of the game and is still VERY young and will only get better.

He's also catering to a crowd who wants him to be a spot monkey and eat all that shit up. That also needs to be taken into account. Who knows how he'd wrestle in front of a WWE type crowd, under WWE type restrictions.
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Old 01-24-2012, 02:33 PM   #52
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He is physically gifted... he is capable of doing pretty much anything, as he is strong as fuck with the extra 20 pounds of muscle and still quick. What he should be doing is watching Dynamite Kid matches and learn something about psychology while also being able to high fly. Or even more importantly, Chris Jericho matches. However I must say, from listening to his interview with Colt he is a definite student of the game and is still VERY young and will only get better.

He's also catering to a crowd who wants him to be a spot monkey and eat all that shit up. That also needs to be taken into account. Who knows how he'd wrestle in front of a WWE type crowd, under WWE type restrictions.
If he ever wants to make it to the WWE he should just do a series with (insert random Indy HIGH WORK RATE PERSON)
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Old 01-24-2012, 07:03 PM   #53
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TJ Perkins
http://m.youtube.com/watch?desktop_u...e8uieuSE&gl=US

Here's a video of him as puma and tjp. He's an acrobatic/ scientific/ striker and he's awesome. One of the most well rounded in the Indies.

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"I HAVE A DREAM"



Oh yeah? I had a dream too once, but mine was fulfilled in a much shorter span of time. My dream was to interact with such intellects as Indifferent Clox and I'm living that right now.



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Old 01-24-2012, 07:09 PM   #54
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Old 01-24-2012, 07:12 PM   #55
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When they stop getting replies I will. Till then fuck off dude.
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Old 01-24-2012, 07:18 PM   #56
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Why not start a thread for indie stuff Clox,keep it all together
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Old 01-24-2012, 07:20 PM   #57
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Because gertner. But seriously, not all Indie guys are the same, why put them in the same thread? That'd like why not make a wwe thread? Much more guys outside of wwe...
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Old 01-24-2012, 07:24 PM   #58
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I'm sure Gertners a changed man. You'd probably get more replys in a single thread,easier to update and follow over time,just an idea.
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Old 01-24-2012, 07:32 PM   #59
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Old 01-24-2012, 07:39 PM   #60
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Pretty sure I could edit this and with Juan's help paste the pac thread here to and make it Indiifferent clock Indie wrestling extravanganza, but no marks would look at it. I just think there's more of a chance of someone getting into the style. Dunno. While im definetly lookingg for discussion, my ultimate goal is to make people more aware of great wrestlers who break the mold. I'd love to do a series of great Indie wrestlers, maybe a best of the Indies thing, weekly. Maybe a rate the Indie workers thread.

Problem is I don't have mods on my side, and I do have a lot of troll bait looming over me.
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Old 01-24-2012, 07:49 PM   #61
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i'm impressed, but pretty much what everyone else said: you can't do all that flippy shit without someone who knows how to do that flippy shit with you.

also, he's a butterface.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:04 PM   #62
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:09 PM   #63
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gotta say making threads for random workers will get fewer replies.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:39 PM   #64
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i'm impressed, but pretty much what everyone else said: you can't do all that flippy shit without someone who knows how to do that flippy shit with you.

also, he's a butterface.
Is this about pac or tjp?

And yes certain styles clash, but a good worker can adapt and change up.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:46 PM   #65
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the "flippy guys can only work with other flippy guys" argument holds no water. you see them paired against each other often simply because people will pay to see it. its not that you suddenly cant work a lucha/lucharesu/or us indy style when you work some who's working say a memphis stlye. is just the pacing will have to change to commidate.
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basically just dont work a sprint and it will mesh like any other match.
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This dude is amazing! Brittish wrestler. Best high flyer in wrestling.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?desktop_u...I9s9h0Vk&gl=US

Also he recently got ripped.
ffs I hate high flyers.

So fucking stupid. Let's try and maintain even the slightest semblance of reality.
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Eddie Kingston. Amazing on the mic(dude has brought tears to my eyes) great brawler

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop...3DbY5D9M&gl=US

I'd love to see stern an Kingston team up in wwe. Or feud in ring of honor.

Kevin steen, for those who don't know, can do it all, and he looks likea fitter fallen angel (not Christopher Daniels)
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Old 01-25-2012, 02:52 PM   #69
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Some of those moves are so fucking stupid.

Plus WWE would never let that Steen guy get over.

Look, stop posting random indy guys you only know from youtube.

And start embedding videos FFS. Also stop posting fucking YOUTUBE fucking MOBILE links you tool.
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Pretty sure I could edit this and with Juan's help paste the pac thread here to and make it Indiifferent clock Indie wrestling extravanganza, but no marks would look at it. I just think there's more of a chance of someone getting into the style. Dunno. While im definetly lookingg for discussion, my ultimate goal is to make people more aware of great wrestlers who break the mold. I'd love to do a series of great Indie wrestlers, maybe a best of the Indies thing, weekly. Maybe a rate the Indie workers thread.

Problem is I don't have mods on my side, and I do have a lot of troll bait looming over me.
Mate just stop it.

It'd just piss people off more.
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Old 01-25-2012, 03:48 PM   #71
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Eddie Kingston. Amazing on the mic(dude has brought tears to my eyes) great brawler

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop...3DbY5D9M&gl=US

I'd love to see stern an Kingston team up in wwe. Or feud in ring of honor.

Kevin steen, for those who don't know, can do it all, and he looks likea fitter fallen angel (not Christopher Daniels)
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i HATE kingston. i think his promos are awful, but different doesnt mean its good.
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I'll take Steen more seriously when he even tries to remotely resemble an athlete.
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Dude destor check out His promo before high noon. If that doesn't bring a tear to your eye ill owe you a green rep
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Also I don't just know them from YouTube. I actually buy the DVDs
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Its actually a pretty personal promo not so much kayfabe.
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Is there a youtube clip of it?
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Possibly. I think its pretty new.Kingston is the first chikara grand champion right now. And steen is pwg champion and probably a future Roh champion.
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Dude destor check out His promo before high noon. If that doesn't bring a tear to your eye ill owe you a green rep
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck that. im not going out of the way for kingston.
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