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Old 01-25-2012, 09:19 PM   #41
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lol. Cena will not be turning heel anytime soon.

He's going fine the way he is anyway.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:01 PM   #42
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lol. Cena will not be turning heel anytime soon.

He's going fine the way he is anyway.
Realism? What are you, some kind of freak?
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:06 PM   #43
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I know that its been a while since cenas been the antagonist but.... he's still heel to me dammit!
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:19 PM   #44
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Cena will not turn heel. The day will come, and it's probably going to be sooner than we all think (people will be saying "Cena wont turn heel" right up until he actually does, I feel), but it's far more likely Cena gets another babyface run as WWE Champion after beating The Rock than actually turning heel.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:42 PM   #45
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Honestly I'm starting to think more and more that Cena is actually going to loose I mean look where the match itself is taking place. Rock is obviously gonna have the better reception seeing as it's is hometown so Cena will get booed regardless why not turn him then? Between the business with Piper's interview and now with Kane tellling him to embrace the hate it could very well reach his breaking point.
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Cena won't have a breaking point. He'll Rise Above Hate and sell more t-shirts. He'll be booed when he makes The Rock tap-out in Miami, but he'll lap it up as he celebrates. GONG.
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There's an obvious change in Cena. The breaking point will be Wrestlemania. Clear as day.
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Heel cena for the next two months loses to the Rock and it teaches him that being a bad guy doesnt pay in the end.

Sort of like, a lesson for the little kids that are his fans.
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I really don't care how it happens. As long as Cena wins, whether heel or face, it'll be good.
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Cena won't have a breaking point. He'll Rise Above Hate and sell more t-shirts. He'll be booed when he makes The Rock tap-out in Miami, but he'll lap it up as he celebrates. GONG.
The first truly baby-face heel?

Wait, remember when the Rock debuted as a pure as the driven snow baby-face and the fans hated him?
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Old 01-26-2012, 08:39 AM   #51
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Heel cena for the next two months loses to the Rock and it teaches him that being a bad guy doesnt pay in the end.

Sort of like, a lesson for the little kids that are his fans.
And knowing is half the battle.
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which is funny considering Rock is in GI JOE
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:43 AM   #53
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You mean, the reason I used that line in the first place?
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Old 01-26-2012, 03:57 PM   #54
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It would have fit regardless actually. I read that and had totally forgotten that Dwayne was going to be in that film.
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Old 01-26-2012, 04:27 PM   #55
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It would have fit regardless actually. I read that and had totally forgotten that Dwayne was going to be in that film.
Plus, Cena really wants to be in GI JOE, I bet.

Still, it struck me as explaining the joke.

And we already have Noid for that.
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:11 PM   #56
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Cena fits in GI Joe better than Rock.
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:06 PM   #57
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Cena fits in GI Joe better than Rock.
He is a marine after all.
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Kane Knight is truly the funniest man in the world. I can't believe I have not noted prior to this just how brilliant he is. Referencing GI Joe in a thread about The Rock? Brilliant! I am in stitches literally every time he posts.

To top it off, he references a film John Cena made. It's a crime that people don't get your sense of humour, KK.
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Old 01-27-2012, 04:35 AM   #59
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To the people claiming the inevitable Cena bad guy turn...

Just remember what happened to Goldberg when he turned heel. It ruined him. Just because you think it's time for him to turn doesn't mean it is. The IWC Savior totally got out popped on Raw when Cena said something to the effect of "stand back and let me show you how it's done" and then called out Johnny Ace. With Punk's continual ratings decline why would WWE put their one "go to" guy for ratings in a bad spot?

I'm not saying heel Cena = ratings drop but over time it is likely to happen at this point. When Cena does go heel (if he ever does, which I'm not convinced he has too) it needs to have a story behind it as eventful as the NWO in WCW. Cena turning heel at this point is too early, build the legend before breaking it.

I love Noid's idea of Rock tapping and the fan's booing until GONG....

Then we have our match for next year. And in that match I would like to see WWE attempt the magic of an Austin/Bret turn, where Cena turns heel by winning, and the way he acts during the match (cheats to win).

That's a possibility in my mind, but i'm still not sold on it 100% because I don't know if it would be more powerful for him to stay true to his character than to sell out.
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Has FACE Rock ever tapped before?
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So Cena fails in rising above said hate, then?
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Kane Knight is truly the funniest man in the world. I can't believe I have not noted prior to this just how brilliant he is. Referencing GI Joe in a thread about The Rock? Brilliant! I am in stitches literally every time he posts.

To top it off, he references a film John Cena made. It's a crime that people don't get your sense of humour, KK.
Proof that Noid only gets literal jokes that have been explained outright.
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Just remember what happened to Goldberg when he turned heel. It ruined him. Just because you think it's time for him to turn doesn't mean it is. The IWC Savior totally got out popped on Raw when Cena said something to the effect of "stand back and let me show you how it's done" and then called out Johnny Ace. With Punk's continual ratings decline why would WWE put their one "go to" guy for ratings in a bad spot?
Because we really really want them to!
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Proof that Noid only gets literal jokes that have been explained outright.
Nah, proof that a joke needs to be funny to make me laugh. If I want to laugh at something not funny, I'll pretend to "get" Napoleon Dynamite.
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Cena going over Rock at 'Mania is the obvious right choice for business (unless they know Rock will be wrestling again after 'Mania).

But at no point in their fued (yet) has Cena been made to look like he could lace Rocky's boots let alone beat him.

It basically comes down to this...

If Cena wins, I wont riot, I'll just be mildly disappointed, and rationalize that it was right for business. And as a fan who knows enough about the backstage happenings thanks to TPWW and Dave Meltzer, I dont see any other outcome.

If Rocky wins, the mark in me will be elated, I can't stand Cena.

At least when people were chanting "Rocky Sucks" because he was being shoved down the throats of people ala Cena, we hadn't already seen it once and way better too.


In some ways I feel sorry for Cena (the man), he is in a great position in the company, which by most accounts he has worked his ass off for and reaped the rewards.
But the position he is being put in is forcing him to be a copy of The Rock, rather than his own entity.

Cena (the person) > Cena (the character)
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Rock lost his last match as WrestleMania when he teamed with Foley. So yeah, the Rock will job to Cena.
That was different though...the 2 guys in Evolution at the time on the "numbers advantage" side (it was 2-on-3, Rock 'N Sock Connection fighting them), Randy Orton and Batista both really needed a huge way to get over...





Orton eventually hits the RKO on Foley...fast forward to SummerSlam 2004:



But with Cena, he's already a well-established staple of the RAW brand, whereas WM XX Randy Orton had only taken one small step toward becoming an established company star by winning the IC title a few months prior at Armageddon '03...I could see their match going either way at Mania. As J.R. once said
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The match was never about who is going to win it's all about the atmosphere and there will be cheers and boos no matter who wins
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