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Old 02-24-2012, 08:57 PM   #41
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Unless you meant that literally.

In which case, you are certainly right.
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Old 02-24-2012, 08:58 PM   #42
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It doesn't matter. Cena goes heel at Mania. He'll prolly beat the rock,with outside help of somekind. That's my pick anyway.No matter what they aren't going to let their top guy look weak to a former star. Remember Rock/Hogan? Yea that's what is going down. In my humble opinion.
Rock didn't turn heel at Mania.

Cena beating Rock and then the two of them shaking hands ala Rock/Hogan though, definitely a possibility.
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:06 PM   #43
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So based off the Raw thread and this thread I now gather that people are on Cena's side in this feud now?
Only the ones who don't get it. Personally I was a huge Rocky fan back in the day, and have waited 7 long years to see him return. He looked in great shape when he wrestled at SS, and the next few weeks leading up to 'mania are going to be fun.

Cena's been bland for too long, at least The Rock gives him someone fresh to fued with, and is prepared to say/do what others will not to a degree.

But who cares, side with The Rock, side with Cena, choose your man, its exactly like it was with Rock/Austin, and Rock/Hogan, the atmosphere alone will raise the match 2*. If you can't get hyped for Rock / Cena, no matter which side you choose, you don't understand wrestling.
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:18 PM   #44
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Only the ones who don't get it.
lol. Jesus. Did you really just pull the "If you don't side with Rock like I do, you just don't get it!" card?
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:24 PM   #45
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lol what? More work?
I'm sure that upcoming wrestling match is certainly preferable to acting in a movie in terms of work load. That's why the Rock turned down Hollywood in the first place, because...Oh crap, that totally didn't happen.

At least he'll be in a nice, cushy WWE job where he can have do-overs, rest breaks and stunt doubles.

Wait, no, that's Hollywood.



Ofcourse, I meant "more" in the sense of "additional." But even if you compare time put in to money earned, I doubt your version would particularly be true.
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Old 02-25-2012, 12:31 AM   #46
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lol. That 20 minute match is gonna kill him. You're right.
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Old 02-25-2012, 12:45 AM   #47
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Old 02-25-2012, 12:47 AM   #48
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lol. That 20 minute match is gonna kill him. You're right.

I'm pretty sure he will be in jail for killing Cena as the title implies.

The only thing that will kill him is the chair.
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Old 02-25-2012, 04:22 AM   #49
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This is all so fucking laughable and nobody is going to change their mind regardless of who's side they're on. You're a fucking moron if you took the "never ever going away" comment literally. The Rock doesn't owe anyone anything.
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This is all so fucking laughable and nobody is going to change their mind regardless of who's side they're on. You're a fucking moron if you took the "never ever going away" comment literally. The Rock doesn't owe anyone anything.
This.

When he said "never ever going away" I didnt expect him to be on every Raw....I actually expected him to do exactly what he's doing now...
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:23 AM   #51
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I think everyone expected him to do what he's doing now.

I expected him to do what he's doing now. Which is exactly why when he said "I'm never leaving again" I instantly thought "What an asshole."
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:23 AM   #52
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This.

When he said "never ever going away" I didnt expect him to be on every Raw....I actually expected him to do exactly what he's doing now...
I expected the same thing, but he should have never said the line. Of course he wasn't coming back full time. We all knew he didn't mean it, but that doesn't change the fact that it was still a blatant lie to the fans' faces. I'm still hyped for the match don't get me wrong, I just don't think much of the Rock for his comments, or him in general.
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:29 AM   #53
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Also to Kane Knight. Dude you're really sounding like a troll with your comments. Not sure if that's intentional or not, but it's pretty laughable the way you try to defend him by saying he's not getting anything out of this. Sure he's not making a killing with the cash from this, but considering he's worked like 10 days for WWE this year just cutting promos and having one tag match at a ppv he didn't even draw for I'd say he's getting a pretty good deal. Not to mention it's not like this is taking away from his movie career. I mean seriously, do you think he's missed out on any roles or time on set because of cutting one of his 10 minute promos?
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:39 AM   #54
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You should do what about 90% of the posters here do and just ignore Kane Knight.
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Old 02-25-2012, 10:02 AM   #55
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lol. Jesus. Did you really just pull the "If you don't side with Rock like I do, you just don't get it!" card?
Not intentionally, everyone is allowed their own view. But anyone jumping to Cena's side because of this "never going away" thing, doesn't get it. If you are on Cena's side cos you just like Cena, well, fair enough.
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Old 02-25-2012, 10:18 AM   #56
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I think everyone expected him to do what he's doing now.

I expected him to do what he's doing now. Which is exactly why when he said "I'm never leaving again" I instantly thought "What an asshole."
I too was pissed off that someone in wrestling was saying something untrue.

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Also to Kane Knight. Dude you're really sounding like a troll with your comments. Not sure if that's intentional or not, but it's pretty laughable the way you try to defend him by saying he's not getting anything out of this.
Hey, misrepresenting my argument as something I neither said or implied. And you're accusing me of trolling. Not sure if that's irony or you're just not self-aware enough.

Still, I do wonder if you actually read my comments. And if you did, whether you actually, you know, understood them. I'm pretty sure nobody is saying he's getting nothing out of this. At the very least, I know I'm not saying it. So is your sentiment really "It's pretty laughable the way you say things you didn't say?" I don't think so, but that's the way it appears to break down.

I mean, your next line starts:

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Sure he's not making a killing with the cash from this
Indeed he's not. But that wasn't so much the crux of the issue as the notion he's doing it for the paycheck. A paycheck that's very likely not worth his time (comparably). Stuff like "The promos are ten minutes" or "he's only wrestling two matches" don't change that point.

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I mean seriously, do you think he's missed out on any roles or time on set because of cutting one of his 10 minute promos?
No, did you seriously believe I did? If so, I go back to the "did you even read what I said?" Comment.

This seems like another "Kane Knight disagreed with what I said, so he must believe the complete opposite of what I said, even though there is no factual basis for it in his posts."

The usual whiny shit tards like Noid pull out because they have no actual basis to disagree with me, but are butthurt that I don't agree with them.

This post should seriously be superfluous, because even a complete trog should be able to sit through a post that is the rough equivalent of a paragraph and a half (tops) and sound out the big words.

The one thing that seems to have stuck in your craw is also the one thing I didn't say.
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Old 02-25-2012, 10:19 AM   #57
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You should do what about 90% of the posters here do and just ignore Kane Knight.
Hmmm...Something seems wrong there. Let's fix it.

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Old 02-25-2012, 01:51 PM   #58
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I would debate that "Rock isn't Hogan" part...
I'm mainly talking about the dynamic. It's completely different. If people are really comparing John Cena to either one of them beyond that, that's disgusting.
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Old 02-25-2012, 02:08 PM   #59
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I've already covered why this shit is stupid and it hasn't gotten any less so since then. So I'm just going to point that out and leave it as-is.
I don't care what you've pointed out, it doesn't mean anything to me.
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I think everyone expected him to do what he's doing now.

I expected him to do what he's doing now. Which is exactly why when he said "I'm never leaving again" I instantly thought "What an asshole."
He said "I'm never ever going away" I interpreted that as "Well, not full time of course, he's an A-list Hollywood star with an insane schedule, he'll probably just pop in from time to time, host, cut a promo, build a little, maybe a few matches as a special attraction, nothing major. <----THAT is what I expected from "I'm never, ever, going away."

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I expected the same thing, but he should have never said the line. Of course he wasn't coming back full time. We all knew he didn't mean it, but that doesn't change the fact that it was still a blatant lie to the fans' faces. I'm still hyped for the match don't get me wrong, I just don't think much of the Rock for his comments, or him in general.
He didnt SAY he was coming back full time...that was your assumption with the "never ever going away" line...it doesn't mean he lied, it means you're wrong in how you took it. If you heard that line and immediately went to "He's saying he's gonna jump on the road 300 days out of the year, fresh out of a 500 million dollar world wide grossing film" then....I don't know what to tell you.
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:18 PM   #63
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Yes, but how many DVDs can he kick out of? And how often does he blade to a schoolboy?

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I don't care what you've pointed out, it doesn't mean anything to me.
Because you're an idiot cleaving to an inane conspiracy theory.

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If you heard that line and immediately went to "He's saying he's gonna jump on the road 300 days out of the year, fresh out of a 500 million dollar world wide grossing film" then....I don't know what to tell you.
That you're as retarded as 90% of this thread's contributors appears to be?
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:26 PM   #64
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I too was pissed off that someone in wrestling was saying something untrue.



Hey, misrepresenting my argument as something I neither said or implied. And you're accusing me of trolling. Not sure if that's irony or you're just not self-aware enough.

Still, I do wonder if you actually read my comments. And if you did, whether you actually, you know, understood them. I'm pretty sure nobody is saying he's getting nothing out of this. At the very least, I know I'm not saying it. So is your sentiment really "It's pretty laughable the way you say things you didn't say?" I don't think so, but that's the way it appears to break down.

I mean, your next line starts:



Indeed he's not. But that wasn't so much the crux of the issue as the notion he's doing it for the paycheck. A paycheck that's very likely not worth his time (comparably). Stuff like "The promos are ten minutes" or "he's only wrestling two matches" don't change that point.



No, did you seriously believe I did? If so, I go back to the "did you even read what I said?" Comment.

This seems like another "Kane Knight disagreed with what I said, so he must believe the complete opposite of what I said, even though there is no factual basis for it in his posts."

The usual whiny shit tards like Noid pull out because they have no actual basis to disagree with me, but are butthurt that I don't agree with them.

This post should seriously be superfluous, because even a complete trog should be able to sit through a post that is the rough equivalent of a paragraph and a half (tops) and sound out the big words.

The one thing that seems to have stuck in your craw is also the one thing I didn't say.
I can understand what your saying, and if you didn't mean something the way it was interpreted then I'm sorry, but the way your sentences were put together made it seem you were indeed saying the Rock was getting nothing out of this. Either way it doesn't change my feelings on the matter. Rock's still a douchebag.
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:29 PM   #65
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He said "I'm never ever going away" I interpreted that as "Well, not full time of course, he's an A-list Hollywood star with an insane schedule, he'll probably just pop in from time to time, host, cut a promo, build a little, maybe a few matches as a special attraction, nothing major. <----THAT is what I expected from "I'm never, ever, going away."



He didnt SAY he was coming back full time...that was your assumption with the "never ever going away" line...it doesn't mean he lied, it means you're wrong in how you took it. If you heard that line and immediately went to "He's saying he's gonna jump on the road 300 days out of the year, fresh out of a 500 million dollar world wide grossing film" then....I don't know what to tell you.
He may not have said he was coming back directly, but he definitely implied it with that line. Of course I never believed he was going to come back full time, but that doesn't change the fact that the minute he said "I'm never going away." He sounded like a total asshole.
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:33 PM   #66
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I'm mainly talking about the dynamic. It's completely different. If people are really comparing John Cena to either one of them beyond that, that's disgusting.
Cena IS this generations top star whether you like it or not. He may not have made the leaps that Rock has into other media or "Paved the way" like Hogan, but that doesn't take away the fact that he is, at least in professional wrestling, a mega star.
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Rocky signed a contract to come back permo.

Nation of Domination is back.
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I too was pissed off that someone in wrestling was saying something untrue.
Good job being pissed. I thought it was an asshole comment and said nothing about being pissed. You probably shouldn't let these things get to you so much.
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He may not have said he was coming back directly, but he definitely implied it with that line. Of course I never believed he was going to come back full time, but that doesn't change the fact that the minute he said "I'm never going away." He sounded like a total asshole.
Implied it = what you interpreted/assumed he meant, correct?


Everyone that I know in real life who watches WWE and heard him say that got the SAME thing out of it that I did, ie, he won't be on the road 300 days out of the year, but he'll appear sporadically. He sounded like an asshole to YOU maybe because you read into it in an inaccurate way...
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:49 PM   #70
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Cena IS this generations top star whether you like it or not. He may not have made the leaps that Rock has into other media or "Paved the way" like Hogan, but that doesn't take away the fact that he is, at least in professional wrestling, a mega star.
For the record: I don't like it.

It's also completely irrelevant.

If you're going to call Cena a mega star, you need to call Hogan a emag emnsh d em age amge smegma emss amn emna sbn a eh sb star. And Rock something similar.

It's not even close. You can draw an isolated parallel, but that's it. Cena is not in their league, there are few who are.
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:52 PM   #71
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You're talking about legendary wrestlers. John Cena is not a legendary wrestler, and never will be.
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Also, I would much rather see Steve Austin vs. Cena, even if Rock is my favorite. The things the two of them represent would clash harder and make for a more epic showdown. I would markishly look forward to watching Steve Austin stomping him in a corner, and flipping the bird while Cena "never gives up."
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:55 PM   #73
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You're talking about legendary wrestlers. John Cena is not a legendary wrestler, and never will be.
Uh... what the hell are you talking about? Cena may not have the crossover appeal of Rock, but he's already cemented himself into wrestling history. Do you really think that in 10 years the kids growing up watching him aren't gonna feel the same way about him that you do about the Rock?
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Cement is not legendary.
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:00 PM   #75
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Yeah, Austin-Cena would definitely come off more as THE clash of eras.

The good thing about this as opposed to that though is that here Cena actually has a chance to have some people on his side for the feud. I feel like in that feud with Austin, (with the exception obviously of the "Cena demographic") he'd just be fucked. They'd have to try to find a legit ground for him to be anti-Austin.
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:03 PM   #76
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Implied it = what you interpreted/assumed he meant, correct?


Everyone that I know in real life who watches WWE and heard him say that got the SAME thing out of it that I did, ie, he won't be on the road 300 days out of the year, but he'll appear sporadically. He sounded like an asshole to YOU maybe because you read into it in an inaccurate way...
The comment Rock made was a stupid one. He looked like an ass for saying it, and in all likelihood he intended it to be that way so he'd get some heat from it. Regardless it doesn't change the fact that he came across as a dick. Maybe I did read to much into it, but that's my opinion on the matter, and it's not going to change. Come WM I'll be watching on the edge of my seat anticipating one of the greatest confrontations of the decade, and cheering for Cena as I'm sure you'll probably cheer for Rock, and after Rock loses and puts Cena over he'll leave, never to be heard from again until he's got another movie to plug and life'll go on as usual.
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:06 PM   #77
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Yeah, Austin-Cena would definitely come off more as THE clash of eras.

The good thing about this as opposed to that though is that here Cena actually has a chance to have some people on his side for the feud. I feel like in that feud with Austin, (with the exception obviously of the "Cena demographic") he'd just be fucked. They'd have to try to find a legit ground for him to be anti-Austin.
Agreed. Had this been the case I don't think anything could have been done to sway me to cheer Cena over Austin. If they did this one they'd almost certainly have to go the "Turn Cena heel" rout.
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:10 PM   #78
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Someone go career vs. career with me. If Cena loses cleanly to Rock, stop posting in the wrestling forum forever.
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:11 PM   #79
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Wow. Really!?! lol

I'm sure Cena is not gonna lose cleanly to The Rock at WrestleMania. But only as sure as one can be with a wrestling match.
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It's just... there's so many reasons that won't happen. lol
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