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Old 02-25-2012, 12:20 AM   #41
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Oh okay. Because if Otunga regularly sucks his nuts, I'd say that would pretty much explain why he's a fan as well.
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Old 02-25-2012, 01:14 AM   #42
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I can't believe you guys are praising him... I mean seriously just a couple months ago everyone on here wanted the dude off their televisions and now your all jumping on the bandwagon? Otunga hasn't improved at all since his nexus days other than getting a slight tweak to his character. (which is nowhere near enough) The guy can't wrestle, and his mic skills are horrid. The only thing he's got going for him is an awesome theme song, and if that were enough then Gangrel would have been a 20 time world champion.
Even funnier is that the "tweak" to his gimmick is that he's now the black Chris Nowinski. Without nearly as much charisma.

I actually cringed when I saw him put Zeke away with the Sloppy Slam* after he was basically carried in the match by Jackson (which isn't saying much for Otunga's "improved" ringwork) both because it looked unsafe and the fact that this means a push for David. Yes, the character works, and he seems to be that guy in the right place at the right time- but he's the same guy who was ranked so far below Bizzaro Cena and Michael Tarver and now suddenly is getting all this magical love around here.

*As stated before, his spinebuster was once referred to as "a sloppy slam" in an NXT thread, and it has now become the offical finisher name in my head.
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Old 02-25-2012, 01:26 AM   #43
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Old 02-25-2012, 01:28 AM   #44
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... though I will admit, that shit's funny. Should have shooped his face on the baby too.
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... though I will admit, that shit's funny. Should have shooped his face on the baby too.
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I didn't even think about the fact that he would be covering up Jennifer Hudson. Only made it funnier.
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Old 02-25-2012, 02:47 AM   #50
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I'm also digging Otunga.
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I feel bad for people who can't enjoy characters based solely on the fact that they aren't great ring technicians. Whenever I see the term "the character works, BUT...", I cringe. If the character is working, it's fucking working.

This thread has made me an even BIGGER Otunga fan in a roundabout way.
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Old 02-25-2012, 04:14 AM   #52
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You are likely hypnotized by his moobs.
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As much as I can't stand him, he is pulling off his gimmick and making it work. I will give him credit for that.

I personally hate the damn coffee thing because there is a douche bag at work that walks around with one hand in his pocket and the other holding his coffee tumbler. All he does it walk around and slips coffee. Now I am waiting for him to break into an Otunga pose.
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I'm a big fan of Laurinaitis and that fandom has definitely extended to Otunga too. He's perfect in that sidekick to the authority figure role.
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I' a big fan of Laurinaitis and that fandom has definitely extended to Otunga too. He's perfect in that sidekick to the authority figure role.
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Old 02-25-2012, 09:09 AM   #56
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There should be a thread based on this entire idea.
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I'm finding David Otunga quite enjoyable lately. The guy is not the best in the ring, but he's getting better. The man was signed to a developmental contract in November 2008. I think he may have commenced his training then and there, with his FCW debut being in May 2009. So the guy has only really been doing this for just over three years.

The WWE would absolutely adore Otunga -- given that he's got an Academy Award Winner for a wife and has been entirely trained by the WWE team. So you better fucking get used to Otunga, because he's one day going to be a World Champion. And when he is ready, I think he will be a damn good one.

I love that on smaller opponents he uses the Emerald Fusion, too. Personally, I think it's a lot better than The Verdict (his spinebuster). I think the hunt for a permanent finisher is still on the go, however.

I'd be curious to see where Otunga goes after WrestleMania. Will John Laurinatis take over both RAW and SmackDown!? If that's the case, then I could eventually see Laurinatis leaving Otunga SmackDown! as a birthday present, or something. What would be more interesting, however, is if Teddy Long took over both shows, and Otunga had to worm his way into keeping a job.

David Otunga also holds a degree in psychology. I'd love to see that come into play one day. He should hand out different cards to people:

David Daniel Otunga, Sr.
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David Daniel Otunga, Sr.
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David Daniel Otunga, Sr.
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Hes such a smug bastard I like it.

and yea his short trunks made me afraid he was gonna strip glad he switched.
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Old 02-25-2012, 11:57 PM   #61
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I feel bad for people who can't enjoy characters based solely on the fact that they aren't great ring technicians. Whenever I see the term "the character works, BUT...", I cringe. If the character is working, it's fucking working.

This thread has made me an even BIGGER Otunga fan in a roundabout way.
I think for taking the shot at me, you missed the point.

I don't care that he isn't the next Bret Hart in the ring so much as seeing him deliver a spinebuster to... ANYONE looks less like "thats devistating" and more like "holy shit, is that guy alright? that didn't look too good." Otunga seems like he's running on luck that he hasn't injured anyone yet. He's sloppy in execution, and someone is going to get hurt not from some random, unlucky bad break, but from him being kinda lax with his tosses and slams. I fail to see how this is a bad thing for "Flippy McFlipperflips in the indys because he could hurt someone", but a guy who's in the "major leagues" as it were (and is supposed to be better) gets a pass for not merely asthetically ugly, but dangerously shitty ringwork just because he sips coffee from a Thermos with comedic pretention.

Again, "right place, right time" for Otunga. Can't really fault him for taking advantage of what he's being given. Yes, the kiss-ass gimmick is working for him. Good for him. But how many people that are on Superstars duty right now could pull off this exact gimmick and still be less apt to injure somone in-ring?

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Agreed... although, he'd make a good Carlton. Also, that's the wrong Aunt Viv.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:42 AM   #62
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otunga's allright, been growing since his new placement along side Laurinitis.

I thought his theme was really good, but having just listened to it completely, I think its just the chorus that's awesome.
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I've liked Otunga since NXT tbh.

I always wished they'd done more with his attempts to take over Nexus against Barrett.
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The guy should continue to play to his strengths and just be an out of ring character like Big Johnny.
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I love Brotunga's association with Johnny Ace. I am not a fan of his in-ring capabilities, but I admire his physique after watching him up close at a live show.
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I think for taking the shot at me, you missed the point.

I don't care that he isn't the next Bret Hart in the ring so much as seeing him deliver a spinebuster to... ANYONE looks less like "thats devistating" and more like "holy shit, is that guy alright? that didn't look too good." Otunga seems like he's running on luck that he hasn't injured anyone yet. He's sloppy in execution, and someone is going to get hurt not from some random, unlucky bad break, but from him being kinda lax with his tosses and slams. I fail to see how this is a bad thing for "Flippy McFlipperflips in the indys because he could hurt someone", but a guy who's in the "major leagues" as it were (and is supposed to be better) gets a pass for not merely asthetically ugly, but dangerously shitty ringwork just because he sips coffee from a Thermos with comedic pretention.

Again, "right place, right time" for Otunga. Can't really fault him for taking advantage of what he's being given. Yes, the kiss-ass gimmick is working for him. Good for him. But how many people that are on Superstars duty right now could pull off this exact gimmick and still be less apt to injure somone in-ring?



Agreed... although, he'd make a good Carlton. Also, that's the wrong Aunt Viv.
It really wasn't a shot at you specifically, but I can see how you would take it that way. Sorry about that. I've encountered a lot of people on these boards over the years who can't stand guys simply based on their ring work, refusing to be entertained by anything else they do.

Can anyone else do Otunga's gimmick better than Otunga right now, though? I'd have to say no. Who else actually is a Harvard graduate with a psychology degree and a practicing lawyer who is married to Jennifer Hudson? You could put those tags on anyone, I suppose, but it wouldn't feel organic at all. He's got a lot to work with, and he's doing well with it, I feel.
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Old 02-26-2012, 04:34 PM   #69
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Otunga has a great gimmick, no doubt. I just think it's best for him and the long term safety of everyone who works with him if he just plays the annoying heel on the outside, throwing maybe a punch behind the ref's back at most. As in being a manager. As in NOT WRESTLING. Because he's terrible at wrestling.
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:46 PM   #71
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It really wasn't a shot at you specifically, but I can see how you would take it that way. Sorry about that. I've encountered a lot of people on these boards over the years who can't stand guys simply based on their ring work, refusing to be entertained by anything else they do.

Can anyone else do Otunga's gimmick better than Otunga right now, though? I'd have to say no. Who else actually is a Harvard graduate with a psychology degree and a practicing lawyer who is married to Jennifer Hudson? You could put those tags on anyone, I suppose, but it wouldn't feel organic at all. He's got a lot to work with, and he's doing well with it, I feel.
I get you. Trust me, I am by no means a "workrate nazi". Don't get me wrong, I love seeing guys and girls that can go. However, I'm the same guy who goes so far as to refer to Gangrel as "The Starmaker", and see Jack Swagger as "Kurt Angle in his prime, only with a lobotomy". I agree that David's out of ring stuff is progressing, and he could be a monster heel manager or some other such character. I don't have so much of an issue with that in and of itself.

What I was getting at is that his success with the coffee and bowtie portions are gaining him a push in-ring. Someone else could be using that push. Was Clarence Mason a real lawyer? Or Harvey Whippleman? This is wrestling. They don't actually HAVE to have a degree, be a real lawyer, or have a name-droppable wife to be portrayed as a weasly legal counsultant.
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I love Otunga. Since NXT day one. Look back at the threads. knew he had IT on the mic, and he is still progressing in the ring.

Im all for modern day characters. THE LAWYER makes way more sense today than 1991.


Also get Guycott, but I think they want him to be over in the ring, not as a manager/Lawyer. They want that Rub to go into his ring work.
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heres the facts: when the bell rings the audience tunes out. so his gimmick isnt "working" as claimed in this thread. people are still not interested in him. mostly because he cant work and to top it off his promos are awful too. being a meme isnt selling tickets or merch no matter how much you wish it was.

guy doesnt have to work like hart and talk like rhodes to be over. he should start by trying to better than linda mcmahon and mike ademle. baby steps. guys hold a coffee mug like a champ tho.

and its good to see his recent push is working on someone, maybe more people will be sweapt up, good booking has gotten a lot of garbage over in the past.
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He's playing the character well enough I just don't think he should be wrestling. Also I don't think he should be put over in matches if he has to step into the ring.

I also want to know why he needs to drink coffee during Raw. Obviously the writing is putting him to sleep?
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I'd like to see Otunga play more of a non-wrestling role, true, but he'll get better in time. You can tell from some of the Tweets the guy has made before that he's a true fan of the business.
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