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Old 02-28-2012, 09:24 AM   #1
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There's still 5 weeks to go. No point bringing out all the big guns just yet. There's plenty of time for Rock's rebuttal.
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Old 02-28-2012, 09:48 AM   #2
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Rock needs to talk about how Cena is a wanna be ROck. Trying to make it in the movie game. Coming out with gems left and right. Rock makes more in one day of GI Joe than Cena films make in a lifetime!

So now Cena runs him down in Jealousy. Knowing the Rock can leave for 7 years and still get more love than Cena, who is "showign it every Week"

Book it.
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Wonderful, the culmination of two people I thought were overexposed in their heydays and who I despised in equal measure fighting for, uh...something. The rights to be in Expendables 3, maybe?

The same reason the crowd soured on Cena is the reason the crowd soured on the Rock in the early 2000s. Five moves of doom, bland catchphrases, and not a single night goes by that they can go without being the main event/center of attention.

The difference today is the Rock went away and came back with the nostalgia pop. If Cena retired tomorrow, we'd like him when he came back to wrestle Daniel Bryan (Daniel Bryan by then being the overexposed frontman of the company...I can dream, right?) at Wrestlemania 38.

My general fatigue of both of these individuals aside, they're both very talented both in words and in the ring when they are allowed to actually wrestle. It could either be an excellent match, where both show a moveset that did not exist while they were at the top, or it could be a terrible one, where they slap each other for a half hour while the crowd chants something else retarded.
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Don't recall the crowd souring on Rock in the early 2000's. His catchphrases have always been over as a bastard. Main eventers tend to be in, wait for it, the main event/are the centre of attention. Pretty sure Rock's pops are because he's still hugely over and is a legit "star" nowadays. lol "moveset". etc etc.
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Don't recall the crowd souring on Rock in the early 2000's. His catchphrases have always been over as a bastard. Main eventers tend to be in, wait for it, the main event/are the centre of attention. Pretty sure Rock's pops are because he's still hugely over and is a legit "star" nowadays. lol "moveset". etc etc.
They did, especially as his feud with Triple H/The McMahon-Helmsley Faction dragged on.

And there are main eventers who have promoted their own popularity without becoming overexposed. They tend to be the legacy characters right now (Triple H, Undertaker, formerly Shawn Michaels.)

It's tricky to manage, since top draws make money doing virtually anything, but too much of a good thing makes people fatigued of it. Hulk Hogan had that problem too.
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Old 02-28-2012, 11:33 AM   #6
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They did, especially as his feud with Triple H/The McMahon-Helmsley Faction dragged on.

And there are main eventers who have promoted their own popularity without becoming overexposed. They tend to be the legacy characters right now (Triple H, Undertaker, formerly Shawn Michaels.)

It's tricky to manage, since top draws make money doing virtually anything, but too much of a good thing makes people fatigued of it. Hulk Hogan had that problem too.
that feud lasted from roughly the build to Mania 2000 until around King of the Ring and I still don't recall anything like the crowd souring.

Are you telling me that Austin, Rock etc aren't "legacy characters", whatever that is supposed to mean?

and certainly Hogan had "problems" in the same sense Cena has had for most of his run on top but that's not who we're talking about
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Don't recall the crowd souring on Rock in the early 2000's. His catchphrases have always been over as a bastard. Main eventers tend to be in, wait for it, the main event/are the centre of attention. Pretty sure Rock's pops are because he's still hugely over and is a legit "star" nowadays. lol "moveset". etc etc.
Nah, fans were sick of the rock in 2002, and were chanting "Rocky sucks" again. You can actually see him taken aback by it when he lost the title to Brock.

If I'm not mistaken, that was the whole basis for turning him heel in 2003.
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Nah, fans were sick of the rock in 2002, and were chanting "Rocky sucks" again. You can actually see him taken aback by it when he lost the title to Brock.

If I'm not mistaken, that was the whole basis for turning him heel in 2003.
oh for sure by then, once he started swanning off to do films etc, Summerslam 2002 he got slaughtered. But through 2000 and early 01 before leaving for The Scorpion King, nah.
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:31 AM   #10
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Cena and the Rock with 13 votes each, with each standing with 54.17% of the votes...

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Old 02-28-2012, 07:29 PM   #11
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i'm loving every second of this storyline. and i'm so fucking sick of reading "cena shud turn heel n talk about [insert stupid shit], n then rock shud say [other stupid shit]. " there's a reason you people don't write the show.

this is an opportunity to go outside the whole bad guy vs good guy mentality and they are using it. and it's great. like who you want to like, and take the ride.

i saw the rock's face after the writing on the wrist jab. i've also seen part of one of his movies. if the look on his face monday was acting, it must be the best acting he's ever done.
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Cena and the Rock with 13 votes each, with each standing with 54.17% of the votes...

Wait, what?

Some people chose to rep both WWE Superstars.
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:42 AM   #13
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Discussion Topic #2:

Do you think the WWE is intentionally holding The Rock back from cutting a great promo, or do you think it's because The Rock is a huge bitch?
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:48 AM   #14
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Personally I believe The Rock cares so much about the WWE that he's actually writing John Cena's promos for this feud. He's writing all the brutal material that has torn down The Great One and made him look like the huge bitch we saw on tv last night.
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That's what I was thinking. Remember a while back when Rock was saying he'd be back when he had something huge to do. I think that's the plan, he's helping Cena get over in every sense.

I've never seen promo notes written on anyone's arm before, let alone someone as good at cutting promos as the Rock.

Ryan Clark may tell you this is legit, and JR is playing that tune on his blog too, but both guys are very professional, and very good at what they do.
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I want to click The Rock for this here poll... but in all honesty I will be cheering for both! This is not the same as Hogan/Rock to me.... I cheered Hogan all the way through this match, much like the other 68,000 people in Skydome did.... I will cheer for both, I just want to watch something really cool.

And that is what I am hoping for.
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Discussion Topic #2 -

I don't think he is being held back,I think seriously The Rock is a bit out of his element doing the "worked shoot" promo. He's a natural entertainer and hype-man. If he jumps into full "Rock" persona he can deliver fantastic promo's. I personally don't care if he doesn't hit that "realism" like Cena has done over the last couple weeks. I want The Rock to go on a verbal tirade in the only way he knows how to, which is completely over the top and memorable.
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I am re-watching the promo on the main page and I am having a hard time seeing the writing on The Rock's wrists. Can someone please tell me where it is so I can see it.
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Nevermind I see it.
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Nevermind I see it.
And if you watch the promo's end, you'll see Rock say Mother fucker before he says bitch.
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For the discussion topic, I don't think WWE is holding The Rock back. I don't think The Rock expected Cena to get as personal as he did. I expect The Rock to begin to rip him in the weeks to come. Rock looked like he was caught off guard with the promo Cena put on him.

For the record, I am repping Team Bring It, but Cena has stepped up his game throughout this entire feud. His promos have gotten better and better. I will never leave Team Bring It, but I will not boo Cena anymore.
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Cena by a wide margin.

The only time I liked the rock was during his "hollywood" heel persona. Besides that it was the same old catchprases every week with some toilet humor. Much like Cena for a long time, was just the same old catch phrases every week, with some goofy humor thrown in. The difference being every once and a while when a feud heats up, we would get an "angry, passionate" promo from Cena, which has always been a treat, and loads better than his usual shtick.

I've been saying for a while, that Cena doesn't have to turn heel, or go back to rapping to get over with his haters. He just has to make this serious side his permanent persona.

The Rock has charisma up the wazoo, and there really has never been a personality quite like his, but when Cena is on his game, his promos give me chills. I never got that from the rock. He's had some good promos that have made me laugh, but nothing that has knocked me on my ass like Cena does on occasion.
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Old 02-28-2012, 11:38 AM   #23
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The only time I remember Rock getting booed in 00-01 as a face was during the buildup to Wrestlemania X7 with Austin. And I'm sure that was more to do with Austin being the most popular wrestler ever than anything else.
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Old 02-28-2012, 11:45 AM   #24
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John Cena won by a wide margin last night and it only took him about 2 minutes to do so. The Rock looked cmopletely lost after the Wrists/Script comment. As a big fan of the Rock back in the day, its great seeing him back on TV, and his war of words with Cena has been great over the past year. I am actually looking more forward to the Promo's over the next 5 week's than i am the actual match (which I am sure will not be very good).
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Last night was the worst rock promo i have ever seen it will be a good match but there will be a rematch at WM 29
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WWE is most certainly holding The Rock back. They're fucking PG, and The Rock can annihilate Cena and I think he will once he lets fucking loose. Everyone is right who is saying that The Rock was caught off guard by Cena. The Rock has more or less kept it within the "storyline" thus far. When he gets real, Cena is in for it and so is the WWE.
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If WWE wasn't PG, I feel like Cena would own him even harder.
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the rock isnt being held back nor is he feeding cena lines. get out of here with that mess. what we're getting is cena free of the wwe writers cutting his own promos (that everyone under the sun used to praise) with the rock cutting his typical stuff written by insert jewish guy here.
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the rock isnt being held back nor is he feeding cena lines. get out of here with that mess. what we're getting is cena free of the wwe writers cutting his own promos (that everyone under the sun used to praise) with the rock cutting his typical stuff written by insert jewish guy here.
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:49 PM   #31
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:36 PM   #32
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A lot of that lately.

I remember when I was the only person here that liked Mark Henry. Then one Tuesday, everyone decided to become a fan.

And recently, I feel like everyone on a dime just turned around and decided that Santino as world champion would be a good idea.
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I remember when I was the only person here that liked Mark Henry. Then one Tuesday, everyone decided to become a fan.

I just want to point out, that I do not mean this in a douchey hipster "I liked that band before they were popular" kind of way, and indeed, the happiest day of my life was when everyone else discovered the greatness that I have seen in mark Henry for years.
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The crowd is what the problem is.... The crowd is chanting every dang thing in the book. Cena can come out and say what he has to say and book...

If they were just speaking without the chants it would have been a different ballgame...
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The crowd is what the problem is.... The crowd is chanting every dang thing in the book. Cena can come out and say what he has to say and book...

If they were just speaking without the chants it would have been a different ballgame...
Wait, so you're saying the crowd helped Cena and hurt the Rock? Is that what I'm reading?
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Wait, so you're saying the crowd helped Cena and hurt the Rock? Is that what I'm reading?
That's EXACTLY what I'm saying... hear me out.

Rock spent the majority of the time letting the crowd chant when he could have been ripping Cena... When Cena spoke the crowd was dead. If the crowd let Rock speak instead of them chanting, the Rock would have fared better...

Just an opinion... what are your thoughts?
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sure are alot of excuses today for dwayne.

here's a question: will we see the rock again before the last raw before mania?
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sure are alot of excuses today for dwayne.

here's a question: will we see the rock again before the last raw before mania?

Even with a star of Rock's magnitude, I don't see how they can build to a Wrestlemania main event when one of the participants isn't even there. It's been fine up to now, but leading into the actual PPV, he needs to be at every Raw to hype this match, and to make it really personal. Otherwise, it really won't have the atmosphere and feel of Wrestlemania dream matches of years past.
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If there was no pg who would win not only the fight at WM but the war of words leading up to it?
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If there was no pg who would win not only the fight at WM but the war of words leading up to it?
Aaronpg43, your Rock/Cena thread has been merged into the OFFICIAL Rock/Cena Wrestlemania Hype Thread. Please make a note of it.

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