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Old 04-13-2012, 09:42 AM   #41
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Fuck you guys. Alex Riley is the goods.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:45 AM   #42
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:26 PM   #43
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Riley is great at missing cues, botching spots and sandbagging. I'll give him that.
Seriously. Khali at least has the excuse of being so fucking big and crippled, he can barely move.

Alex Riley wrestles a lot of the time like he never comprehended any information he learned while training. Like he may actually have a learning disability.
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:13 PM   #44
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Uh...what ring skills? As far as Ive seen (not much), hes clunky, unatletic and overall bland. I dont see it with him. Im open to your opinion, though.
I didn't use the term in-ring skills.
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:25 PM   #45
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Seriously. Khali at least has the excuse of being so fucking big and crippled, he can barely move.

Alex Riley wrestles a lot of the time like he never comprehended any information he learned while training. Like he may actually have a learning disability.
People said something about how Swagger "botched" a powerbomb on Riley, and I was like "Dude, Riley sandbagged the fuck out of him and Swagger powerbombed him anyway. If anything, it tells you just how strong Swagger is."
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:40 PM   #46
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My favorite part of that was hearing Dolph Ziggler on commentary almost just breaking character and being like "... what? ... ugh." lol
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Old 04-13-2012, 04:47 PM   #47
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I didn't use the term in-ring skills.
I stand corrected. What about his in ring style then? Like I said, havent seen much.
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Old 04-13-2012, 11:27 PM   #48
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Obviously Orton. He's this generation's dumber, less charismatic, more uncoordinated Billy Gunn.

Khali has needed to go for years, along with Henry.

Big Show could be gone, tonight, and I wouldn't blink.

Kane has nowhere to go. There's nothing left to do with him.

Ted Dibiase, JR is talentless.

Cole is horrid.

But then, so is Jerry Lawler. There, that should be enough for now.
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Old 04-14-2012, 02:42 PM   #49
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People said something about how Swagger "botched" a powerbomb on Riley, and I was like "Dude, Riley sandbagged the fuck out of him and Swagger powerbombed him anyway. If anything, it tells you just how strong Swagger is."
Pretty sure he botched the same move a few weeks later on Zack Ryder of all people.
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Old 04-14-2012, 04:50 PM   #50
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The guy didn't jump. It's not even like a "we'll just assume" thing. It's right there for anyone to see. lol

Not to mention the fact that in his short time on regular live TV, Riley made a habit of fucking shit up.
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Old 04-14-2012, 05:55 PM   #51
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Pretty sure he botched the same move a few weeks later on Zack Ryder of all people.
Pretty sure that never happened. Zack even took three in a row without a botch in sight when Swagger won the US title.
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:30 PM   #52
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Alex Riley does things well that you can't teach. The WWE really should not let him go.
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Old 04-15-2012, 04:12 AM   #54
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He grooms relatively well
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The dude does look like a star, yes.
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Old 04-15-2012, 04:19 AM   #56
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Remember on NXT when the pros and the rookies were fighting and Alex Riley decided to start attacking Percy Watson for no reason whatsoever? lol

Like I said, the guy does things that just make me think he can't even comprehend what his job is.
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Old 04-15-2012, 04:28 AM   #57
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Not to mention the fact that he's not really good at anything in particular.
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He was awesome when I was watching him leading into and out of WrestleMania XXVII.
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Old 04-15-2012, 04:52 AM   #59
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You mean the "Hey Cena. You're the reason that a long time ago, they decided to nickname toilets 'John's" Alex Riley?

He barely wrestled then too. And after he turned on The Miz and started wrestling regularly he became a botch/"I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing in this ring right now" machine. I really think the only reason he was just demoted badly and not released altogether was that he's got a decent look and they wanna hold out hope that he'll figure out what he's doing.
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Every Riley match I have seen on Superstars has been decent at the very worst. Don't know what you're talking about.
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"What? ... aww God, I..."

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I remember between that and his awesome bickering with Vickie on commentary that night, this was when I really started becoming a Ziggler fan.
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How is that even a botch? Ridiculous.

Riley has still got more of a chance to make money than most other guys that ever get into the industry. He's also a better overall worker than most of them. You were ragging on Riley from the start and will cling to whatever you can to discredit him as a performer. Randy Orton has done some pretty horrible botches in his time, too.
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"What? ... aww God, I..."

"Yeah, that was nasty. It was hard to watch."

I remember between that and his awesome bickering with Vickie on commentary that night, this was when I really started becoming a Ziggler fan.
Dolph Ziggler will forever be the man, but a true pro would have covered up that spot as Riley trying to counter or something. In a way, that was a botch from Dolph.
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To imply that the moniker "Great" is not truly appropriate for the performer?
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Dolph Ziggler will forever be the man, but a true pro would have covered up that spot as Riley trying to counter or something. In a way, that was a botch from Dolph.
Meh. I think in this day and age, it's not as important. It happened and everyone knew what was going on. It kind of endeared him to me that he was being "with" the audience.
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Riley has still got more of a chance to make money than most other guys that ever get into the industry. He's also a better overall worker than most of them. You were ragging on Riley from the start and will cling to whatever you can to discredit him as a performer. Randy Orton has done some pretty horrible botches in his time, too.
I was ragging on him from the start because of how horribly overrated people saw him. I'm sorry that he only went on to prove me right. Look at me "clinging" to his shitty performances to discredit him as a performer. How unfair of me. lol

And Orton has botched some things. His didn't come in the span of a few months of being pushed and weren't ridiculously glaring and basic spots that most guys can do in their sleep. I mean, the Rumble botch would be forgivable for example if it wasn't for the fact that he made a habit out of being clumsy and clueless (Obviously not knowing what the upcoming move is on multiple occasions, sandbagging Swagger, ATTACKING HIS OWN PARTNER LIKE A DIPSHIT lol). Not to mention Riley isn't even in remotely the same league as Orton in any conceivable way.
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Whatever, dude -- you have your opinion on the guy and you made it vocal before Riley even had a chance to do anything. He went out there and delivered some fantastic performances and you ignored them. So he falls out of the ring once and miscommunicates one spot -- the dude is obviously shit. Who cares how insanely fucking over he is or how good he can be when he's on? How do you know that it wasn't Swagger who was jumping the cut and going for the Gutwrench Powerbomb on Riley too early, or that Riley was actually meant to counter and Swagger kept going for it? Yeah, Riley should have just taken it in that case to avoid breaking his neck, but your biases against Riley are pretty strong.

Zack Ryder botches acting all the time. Let's release him. He's clearly terrible and has no worth. Curt Hawkins might be one of the crispest workers today, but he's not that over so we should immediately cut him.

You just posted videos in which Dolph Ziggler broke character and Michael McGillicutty fumbled over his lines while trying to trash the guy.



This is a star. Don't get me wrong, he does need some polish. But I remember that thread where everyone talked about how much potential he has -- because he does. You can't teach someone to have presence like Riley has.
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Whatever, dude -- you have your opinion on the guy and you made it vocal before Riley even had a chance to do anything. He went out there and delivered some fantastic performances and you ignored them. So he falls out of the ring once and miscommunicates one spot -- the dude is obviously shit.
Man, talk about ignoring. lol
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Who cares how insanely fucking over he is...
lol WHAT!?!?

You're Noiding me again.
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Ziggler didn't BOTCH anything and McGillicutty wasn't exactly being called the second coming of Jesus. He also didn't get the ridiculous push handed to him on a silver platter and threw it away by being awful. Get out of here with this... lol
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The video shows Riley getting put it an AMAZING position with an AMAZING storyline that, once it was over and he was forced to actually get over on his own, he sucked. He's not very good on the mic, he's not very good in the ring, and on top of that, I don't remember the last time I saw anyone be so clueless in the ring as far as knowing spots and knowing what his job is. And you claim I'm being biased with the Swagger thing when it's brutally clear Swagger gives him the opportunity to jump and he fucks it up. Pot... kettle... black...?

The Rumble thing thrown on top of that is just clumsy. If it wasn't for the other facepalm worthy shit, it would just be unfortunate. But it goes to show the guy made a habit of fucking up regularly. Hence why he got demoted faster than the push came.
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