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Old 05-03-2012, 11:13 AM   #41
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Why is it that people seem to bash Lance, but fucking praise Raven? Same thing. Raven's smart about the business, and in-ring, compared to Storm, utter shit. He also never got a huge push in WWE. Why would his opinion, if he gave one, be so loved, yet Lanced gets shit on as a "never was"?
I wouldnt care for Raven's opinion either, he is a fat dump.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:44 AM   #42
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Seriously, though, why do people always bring up the "never made it" argument? That's apples and oranges. Sometimes the best football coaches were mediocre 3rd string QBs "in their day". Not saying Lance is a 3rd stringer in the ring, just saying him having a sharp mind for the business and how much of a push he got in the highest points of his in-ring career have nothing to do with one another.

Why is it that people seem to bash Lance, but fucking praise Raven? Same thing. Raven's smart about the business, and in-ring, compared to Storm, utter shit. He also never got a huge push in WWE. Why would his opinion, if he gave one, be so loved, yet Lanced gets shit on as a "never was"?
To be fair, Lance was taken as gospel for a long time. I don't see as many posts from Raven, so the novelty doesn't wear as fast.

The Raven worship is pretty funny, but I don't think it's one-sided because one guy has credibility while the other does not so much as "Storm fatigue." People on the internet wear out on shit even faster than in the general population.
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Old 05-03-2012, 02:02 PM   #44
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You're explanations are just justifications for stupid booking.
Wait... I misread that at first.

How is my explanation that the booking was fucking great, a "justification for stupid booking?" That makes less sense than a St. Jimmy post about Vince McMahon dancing through fire because he understands wrestling or some shit.
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Old 05-04-2012, 03:56 AM   #45
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To be fair, Lance was taken as gospel for a long time. I don't see as many posts from Raven, so the novelty doesn't wear as fast.

The Raven worship is pretty funny, but I don't think it's one-sided because one guy has credibility while the other does not so much as "Storm fatigue." People on the internet wear out on shit even faster than in the general population.
Perhaps a better example would have been Paul Heyman, but since he wasn't an active wrestler, it would have somewhat negated what I was getting at.

If Paul E. and Lance could have come up with the EXACT SAME THING, Heyman would be getting fellated by and large by the IWC for his comments, whereas Lance gets hit with the "never was" argument.

Also, as usual with such things, it was a "...what I would do..." fantasy booking that makes sense, but ultimately doesn't matter because he isn't on the creative team. To shit on him because of his detailed "what if" scenario just seems nonsensical to me.
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:30 AM   #46
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The jerkoff that left them high and dry when they gave him the world to run with, does not DESERVE to beat the WWE's new idea of a HULK HOGAN. I can't stand Cena. I have been very vocal about that on TPWW. But the Bottom line..(WHAT? lol)I SAID THE BOTTOM LINE is he needed to job immediately to Cena, because Cena darn sure jobbed to him enough. Lesnar is an overrated person. Overrated in UFC,overrated in WWE. He can't cut a promo worth a damn(Contract signing anyone?). He injured multiple people and could have killed two of them. Fuck him. I hope they job him out to Zack Ryder.
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I'm more confused by The Rock beating John Cena at WrestleMania than John Cena beating Brock Lesnar at Extreme Rules. Brock is definitely being betrayed as a villain. He thinks he's too good for wrestling and he's in it to make money and hurt people. People don't want to see Bruce Willis die at the end of Die Hard. And for those who say "it's all in the chase," you do have a point, but a lot of John Cena fans would be devastated if their superhero were utterly crushed by Lesnar. Do you really think a "PG era" year of dominance would be appropriate for Lesnar? There need to be some chinks in that man's armour. Cena exposed that if you punch Lesnar in the face with a chain hard enough, it's possible to set him up for a souped-up version of your finishing move and technically beat the guy even if he kicked your ass for fifteen minutes and was essentially playing with you.

Now, if the babyface were someone that didn't need a big win, or it was someone who wasn't the top babyface of the company, then I would understand the moaning about Lesnar losing. To be honest, I think the biggest mistake was putting Cena against Lesnar right out the gate in the first place. John Laurinaitis should have put a ban on Cena touching Lesnar, with Brock being fed a Zack Ryder or Santino Marella for his first PPV match. People would pay to see Brock back in the WWE regardless of who his opponent is -- why throw away a top money match?

Also, I find it kind of funny that one of the biggest IWC memes is "And your new TNA World Heavyweight Champion is..." and yet people think it's a good idea to have Brock Lesnar go over your money guy?
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Old 05-04-2012, 12:23 PM   #48
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Why is it that people seem to bash Lance, but fucking praise Raven? Same thing. Raven's smart about the business, and in-ring, compared to Storm, utter shit. He also never got a huge push in WWE. Why would his opinion, if he gave one, be so loved, yet Lanced gets shit on as a "never was"?
Fuck you, thats why



I pretty much agree with most of what Storm says in 90% of his commentarys,granted its usually all common sense and hindsight but still. Brock lost but he didnt lose that much momentum really,he was booked strong in the match and on the following Raw so i dont really see the problem.
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Old 05-05-2012, 01:53 AM   #49
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What about the stakes of CM Punk and Sheamus in all of this? You have two guys who are fighting over who is the face of the company while you have two guys who are Champions of said company being completely ignored. Isn't that what CM Punk's character was against in the first place?
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Old 05-05-2012, 02:19 PM   #50
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CM Punk isn't a draw, but how is that even relevant?
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Perhaps a better example would have been Paul Heyman, but since he wasn't an active wrestler, it would have somewhat negated what I was getting at.

If Paul E. and Lance could have come up with the EXACT SAME THING, Heyman would be getting fellated by and large by the IWC for his comments, whereas Lance gets hit with the "never was" argument.

Also, as usual with such things, it was a "...what I would do..." fantasy booking that makes sense, but ultimately doesn't matter because he isn't on the creative team. To shit on him because of his detailed "what if" scenario just seems nonsensical to me.
Kinda feel what I said still applies.

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Also, I find it kind of funny that one of the biggest IWC memes is "And your new TNA World Heavyweight Champion is..." and yet people think it's a good idea to have Brock Lesnar go over your money guy?
Probably because WWE doesn't do it biweekly.

Huh.
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I agreed with what Lance Storm wrote because of what he wrote.

Not that difficult. Lance Storm is boring as fuck and I don't get what's so great about him either. He just happens to be right.

There are a lot of people talking about how they disagree with him, and all that's been said is "Brock Lesnar is a monster." I mean, do a little better than that.
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He is clearly right because everyone still thinks of Lesnar as a "monster," and the world has not imploded. That means there's more than one way to book this.

He even said he wouldn't have booked it that way either.

Stop being retarded.
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But... but... but... Vince McMahon burned the company and played the fiddle on the ashes that night!!

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WRESTLING!!!
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But... but... but... Vince McMahon burned the company and played the fiddle on the ashes that night!!

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WRESTLING!!!
He totally did.

And he'll do it again next week.
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