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Old 06-16-2012, 04:34 PM   #41
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Old 06-16-2012, 04:41 PM   #42
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The front page brought up the Trish Stratus dog barking segment. In hindsight, that was too far and there's definitely no way in hell they'd be able to do that today.
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Old 06-16-2012, 05:20 PM   #43
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I know Dreamer's gimmick at the time was associated with "doing gross things" or whatever, but this never should've happened on-air.
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:11 PM   #44
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Do tell how you figure that, Einstein. The angle was shot 3 days in advance of airing, and they did everything they could to inform and warn viewers that in light of 7/7/2005 some of the show involving a segment with Hassan might not be suitable for them. It's peoples' own fault if they saw that, knew they'd be offended by it and continued to watch and not turn off the tv or flip to another channel, not WWE's.

But, circumstances being what they were, led to a massive outcry, especially from the large Muslim communities in SE Michigan (Dearborn especially) about the character being 'stereotyped' as a terrorist or whatever and basically used that along with 7/7/05 and the airing of the segment to force UPN or CW or whoever it was at the time to pull him from tv and subsequently out of the company. He never got a fair shake, and it's a damn shame because if he were still around today he'd probably have at least 1 world title if not more. He certainly was worthy of it, in my view.
I understand it was 3 days before, bro. It was a bit much with him praying before, the terrorist beat down, and then the martyr carry out.
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:24 PM   #45
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Don't really think they have. Their efforts to shock haven't really had much of an effect on me, probably because wrestling is so ridiculous anyway that when they try and get a serious reaction, it just doesn't work.

Honestly, the worst thing I've seen is sending Jeff out in that ridiculous state to fight Sting.
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:27 PM   #46
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That whole Owen Hart falling from the ceiling angle was a bit much
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:30 PM   #47
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that was a worked shoot
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It wasn't even the most convincing of worked shoots. Could totally see Jerry Lawler reading his "condolences" off a script.
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:05 PM   #49
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Whatever gets people talking about the product. You can never go to far. Something the WWE really needs to think about, as they have little, to no stars left on the roster than can carry this company. No one is capable of making WWE relevant again in terms of the average fan.

They need to spice things up, and start making people talk about the business.
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Old 06-17-2012, 02:28 AM   #50
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:47 AM   #51
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That Katie Vick thing was pretty uncomfortable to watch.


Also, that time when Christopher Daniels didn't shake that guys hand in ROH.

There's no place for that in the sport of wrestling.
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:53 AM   #52
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Cole using Lawler's mothers recent passing as a taunt was pretty messed up.
But then you have to ask yourself, who's more despicable for it? Cole for doing it, Lawler for agreeing with the script, or the writers of the script (as fucking always!!!)?
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Old 06-17-2012, 12:06 PM   #53
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With the recent JR incidents, they've been nothing but intentional bullying IMO. I mean, the incidents have had nothing to do with any storyline or character development and is just strictly entertainment for those (Vince, Cole, HHH?) who are doing it.
Ok, why exactly is it "bullying" when JR gets made fun of and it isn't "bullying" when Michael Cole gets his clothes ripped off, covered in barbecue sauce and beaten up?
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Old 06-17-2012, 01:08 PM   #54
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I know Dreamer's gimmick at the time was associated with "doing gross things" or whatever, but this never should've happened on-air.
God fucking damnit i was gonna post that :foc:

Only been able to watch that twice ever, makes me feel physically sick when i see it, utterly disgusting.
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Old 06-17-2012, 01:14 PM   #55
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Ok, why exactly is it "bullying" when JR gets made fun of and it isn't "bullying" when Michael Cole gets his clothes ripped off, covered in barbecue sauce and beaten up?
Because JR is a "good guy" legend announcer who has a legitimate medical condition that effects thousands of Americans, and Michael Cole is an actor who plays an ass-kissing, sycophantic, douche bag announcer on TV.
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Old 06-17-2012, 01:16 PM   #56
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Whatever gets people talking about the product. You can never go to far. Something the WWE really needs to think about, as they have little, to no stars left on the roster than can carry this company. No one is capable of making WWE relevant again in terms of the average fan.

They need to spice things up, and start making people talk about the business.
There's a difference between "going too far" to elevate a superstar or bring a storyline to another level, and "going too far" for shock value. Shock value only works for so long, and even though it gets people talking, it demeans the product as a whole.

"Hey, did you hear about that guy who raped a mannequin on WWE RAW last week?"
"I sure did! What a crazy, over the top gesture!"
"Yeah! Do you want to watch RAW tonight?"
"Fuck no."
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:23 AM   #57
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Mae Young's tits were.... too far to the ground....
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Old 06-18-2012, 02:31 AM   #58
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I think the biggest complaint about "making fun of JR" is the fact that nobody has to twist up their face to do the damn impersonation, least of all Vince. That's the part that makes it cringeworthy.

That one over-exaggerated detail can make it go from simple ribbing to mean spirited.
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:41 AM   #59
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I think this one struck a nerve on several levels of too far
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:58 AM   #60
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Well I want to say when they signed the Great Khali but I keep seeing him wrestle so they're outdoing themselves constantly
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:23 PM   #61
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Old 06-18-2012, 04:02 PM   #62
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I'd say this entire storyline was a bit too much. I've never been a fan of storylines involing "outside of wrestling" family members. This storyline could have almost ended on a high note when Ric beat the crap out of Russo at The Great American Bash 2000, and then they did this crap the next night.
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Old 06-30-2012, 05:22 PM   #63
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Jericho mocking Dean's dead dad and family.
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When that indy promotion let an abosulte hammered drugged up Scott Hall out to cut a promo after he came out of hospital. As seen on his documentary.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:37 PM   #66
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don't agree with most of these, pretty hard to cross a line in pro wrestling where the bar is set pretty low to start with
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:54 PM   #67
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The Snitsky/Heidenreich gay bromance is the most uncomfortable I felt watching wraslin

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Old 07-02-2012, 03:20 PM   #68
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The worst thing i've seen in this thread is Russo using Iron Man as his entrance, that BASTARD
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Old 07-02-2012, 03:21 PM   #69
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I know there was one particular Nitro where Hogan fought the Giant and they went waaaaayy far. Tony Schiavone said they weren't cutting away until they had a winner. I think it cut into a viewing of Andersonville on TNT.
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:04 PM   #71
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don't agree with most of these, pretty hard to cross a line in pro wrestling where the bar is set pretty low to start with
Well personally I think the fact wwe does lots of charity work and promotes antibullying campaigns one minute and then shows off vulgarity, rape and murder the next is pretty horrific.
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Old 07-04-2012, 03:07 PM   #72
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don't recall WWE showing off rape, murder or even much vulgarity these days
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Old 07-04-2012, 03:09 PM   #73
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Don't you remember the rape scene last week? Big Show really took it to Brodus Clay's dancer after he killed him with a punch. It was sickening.
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Old 07-05-2012, 01:33 AM   #74
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The Matt Hardy/Edge angle with the whole Lita thing. That was kinda shitty.
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Old 07-05-2012, 02:02 AM   #75
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When Val Venis got his penis chopped off by Yugi Nagata live on RAW. I think I got where they were going, but it went a bit too far fir my tastes.
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:47 AM   #76
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When Val Venis got his penis chopped off by Yugi Nagata live on RAW. I think I got where they were going, but it went a bit too far fir my testes.
How I initially read this.
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