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Old 10-24-2012, 10:34 PM   #41
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He's my all time 2nd favorite perofrmer and would much rather see him retire now for good. For his own health and for the sake of match quality.
Other than the 2nd favourite (he's my #1), I totally agree. I don't want him to hurt himself anymore if he really is in such bad shape. And I don't want to see him put on a poor match that leaves a bad taste in peoples mouth just before he retires/goes into the hall of fame.
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:11 PM   #42
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For all he's done for the WWE and his loyalty I'd say that the streak should be kept intact and unbroken for all time.
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:13 PM   #43
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I really don't see how that's a "reward".
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:15 PM   #44
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I also can't see Taker being so selfish and egotistical that he would want to keep a scripted streak as opposed to using a streak he's spent 20 years building up to give pro wrestling one of the most memorable and surreal moments it's ever seen. How often do you get the chance to have a pinfall be as meaningful as a pinfall over The Undertaker at WrestleMania can be? Why would you just never let that moment happen?
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:29 PM   #45
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The Streak is the biggest draw that WrestleMania has had in a long time. It's a constant "staple" storyline to the best show of the year. The Streak needs to end with either a "This is Taker's last match whether he wins or loses" build, or he needs to lose and leave. There needs to be finality to it either way. We all know that the "End of an Era" build was referring to the last two Attitude era "legends" going at it for the last time, and not referring to Taker and HHH's careers.

I guarantee that majority of the ticket buyers that are willing to dish out hundreds of dollars on November 10th to see Mania are most looking forward to seeing Taker's next match. The day Taker leaves will be a huge hit to WrestleMania and Vince's wallet.
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:41 PM   #47
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I read somewhere that Scott Steiner may take the streak this year
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Its clearly THE RYBACK who should end the streak.
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I totally thought that punk would face taker with his belt on the line for respect since there isn't a bigger victory that would get him respect than beating taker at wm. It would easily tie into the attitude era thing that punks trying to do AND punk could take revenge on the shitty match he had with taker where he lost the belt to taker years ago.

What I'm afraid will happen now is they'll give Cena a "one last shot" type match where if he loses no more shots at punk and then he'll win the Rumble to get nother shot and he'll beat him at wm.
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:04 PM   #50
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Barring sporadic appearances like Raw 1000, I really think he ought to hang it up. The Streak ending at 20-0 is neat and clean and if he keeps going he'd going to cripple himself. He just did 4 years of Mania matches with the two best guys he could ever work with, anything else would be a step down, and after beating HHH in HIAC, losing to a Mix, a Ryback, or a Cena would just soil the whole thing. Leave it on the high note, don't turn him into Terry Funkertaker.
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:05 PM   #51
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What I'm afraid will happen now is they'll give Cena a "one last shot" type match where if he loses no more shots at punk and then he'll win the Rumble to get nother shot and he'll beat him at wm.
I'd be afraid of that too, the last thing Cena needs is a 'Mania crowd chanting "Luger" at him.
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They don't need to have The Undertaker work WrestleMania. You could even induct him into the Hall of Fame this year, have some heels mock him on the main show, have Taker kick their asses as a special appearance, and then build to a match at WrestleMania XXX.
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Old 10-27-2012, 12:19 PM   #53
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I’ve always said the 20-0 WM mark (no pun intended) should be Undertaker’s retirement match anyway. Put him in this year or the year after’s HoF...guy clearly deserves it.
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Still wanna see Taker-Punk and Taker-Cena with one of them winning. Also want to see Taker-Brock, but could the other two are much more important.
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If he were to keep having WM matches, I’d prefer it if they didn’t just have him wrestle 1-4 more times. Have him have 5 more matches and win them all, and stop the streak at 25-0.

25 seems like a significant and round enough number for ’Taker to stop on if they decide they don’t want to let him retire at 20, which as I stated before, I clearly think he should.
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Taker-Daniel Bryan is also one I would love to see
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That would be great. The student avenging his teacher, whom the Deadman retired.
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That would be great. The student avenging his teacher, whom the Deadman retired.
That would actually not be the worst idea in the world. Even his detractors have to admit that Daniel Bryan is a fantastic worker, and one that can get the absolute best out of Taker at this stage of his career. Bryan's current relationship with Kane could also come into play, and make things particularly interesting.

I very much doubt the WWE would do it, but if they absolutely want Taker in a role at Mania, you can do far worse for the man than to put him in there with one of the best workers they've ever had.
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20-0 is perfect and should be the end. The Undertaker should just retire unless he wants to lose to CM Punk.

It could also be that he is just resting up for a huge match at WrestleMania 30. This seems like it could be a wedge WrestleMania.
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I'd like the streak to remain intact and never broken. It would be the signature accomplishment that Taker will be known for rather than # of World title reigns etc.
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I'd like the streak to remain intact and never broken. It would be the signature accomplishment that Taker will be known for rather than # of World title reigns etc.
Do you seriously think if Undertaker goes 20-1 or 21-1 that "The Streak" would just be forgotten? It would be fucking stupid not to use this to make a new star. That is how the business works.
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But who is worthy enough to beat the Undertaker? Unless it's going to be the next Rock then I think the streak should remain as is. I honestly don't see John Cena, C.M. Punk or Randy Orton as being as big as they are in ten years. They are in *right now* but what about in the future? I think if they were going to be icons, they'd be there by now. Guys like Hogan, Rock, and Austin are household names. i.e. Plenty of non-wrestling fans know who they are, and only that kind of a wrestler should beat the Undertaker. WWE just needs to find a young wrestler who will one day be in the same league as Hulk Hogan.

I'd say Brock Lesnar is the *only* guy even a little bit close enough to be that guy because of his MMA background and he'd be the only man I'd be alright with ending the streak. I also still think it's time for Undertaker to retire.
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That is how the business works.
A lot of the time yes, but not everything has to be done just to get someone over.

I think people overestimate just how much the win would get someone over. Yes it would be a huge notch on their fake sport highlight reel, and the few months after would be huge for that person. But wrestling fans these days are fickle, and after those few months, the excitement would start to level off, and it would be business as usual.

What I'm saying is you don't need to break the streak to get a guy over, and it's not going to add enough to any superstar, to where it's worth breaking the streak.

Let the guy have his legacy. No, the streak wouldn't be forgotten if it was broken, but it wouldn't be quite as cool.

And as I said, wrestling fans are fickle. 10 years later, fans may not look at the streak breaker any different than the other main eventers throughout history. But Taker's undefeated legacy would stand the test of time.
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But who is worthy enough to beat the Undertaker? Unless it's going to be the next Rock then I think the streak should remain as is. I honestly don't see John Cena, C.M. Punk or Randy Orton as being as big as they are in ten years. They are in *right now* but what about in the future? I think if they were going to be icons, they'd be there by now. Guys like Hogan, Rock, and Austin are household names. i.e. Plenty of non-wrestling fans know who they are, and only that kind of a wrestler should beat the Undertaker. WWE just needs to find a young wrestler who will one day be in the same league as Hulk Hogan.
You know how those guys got there? By beating other guys who were over and having iconic matches.

Cena is the "icon" of this era. There's no reason why he shouldn't get a win over Taker at WrestleMania at some point and accomplish the impossible. The streak will always be a big deal and a huge part of the history of WWE and Taker's "seemingly unmatchable feet" regardless of whether it ends or doesn't. There's no reason not to use it to give the guy who carried your company on his back for 10 years that monumental win that forces him into the upper echelon.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:39 PM   #66
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You know how those guys got there? By beating other guys who were over and having iconic matches.

Cena is the "icon" of this era. There's no reason why he shouldn't get a win over Taker at WrestleMania at some point and accomplish the impossible. The streak will always be a big deal and a huge part of the history of WWE and Taker's "seemingly unmatchable feet" regardless of whether it ends or doesn't. There's no reason not to use it to give the guy who carried your company on his back for 10 years that monumental win that forces him into the upper echelon.
You’re right, other than the fact that they have no plans to turn Cena heel and how ridiculous it would be to turn a once-a-year wrestler heel just for 1 match. I’d also like to note that I’m not in the slightest interested in a “may the best man win” face vs. face streak match where both guys do something similar to Rock/Hogan post-match at WM x8 with all kinds of hand-shaking and posing and back and forth with the showing of “respect” and “sportsmanship”. A ’Taker WM match has never ended like that before and there’s no reason to ever do it period, just like there’s absolutely no reason to destroy the defining piece of Undertaker’s legacy -- EVER.
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You know how those guys got there? By beating other guys who were over and having iconic matches.

Cena is the "icon" of this era. There's no reason why he shouldn't get a win over Taker at WrestleMania at some point and accomplish the impossible.
Agree wholeheartedly. It would be nice to see Cena get his signature moment for all the hard work he's put in.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:23 PM   #68
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Agree wholeheartedly. It would be nice to see Cena get his signature moment for all the hard work he's put in.
Because Cena defeating JBL at WM 21 to win his first WWE Championship doesn’t count, and neither does beating HBK at WM 23 to keep the WWE title.
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You’re right, other than the fact that they have no plans to turn Cena heel and how ridiculous it would be to turn a once-a-year wrestler heel just for 1 match.
... Who said anything about anyone turning heel?
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:34 PM   #70
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I’d also like to note that I’m not in the slightest interested in a “may the best man win” face vs. face streak match where both guys do something similar to Rock/Hogan post-match at WM x8 with all kinds of hand-shaking and posing and back and forth with the showing of “respect” and “sportsmanship”. A ’Taker WM match has never ended like that before and there’s no reason to ever do it period...
He put Triple H's arm over his shoulder and helped walk him down the aisle after the match last year! lol. The end of it was all about respect and sportsmanship.
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lol what DAMN iNATOR? The last 4 Taker WM matches have been face v face.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:40 PM   #72
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And then against Batista as well in 2007, so 5 of the last 6.
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lol what DAMN iNATOR? The last 4 Taker WM matches have been face v face.
That too.
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:45 PM   #74
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I thought the second HBK vs Taker streak match had HBK playing as a heel but in the sense of when HBK was a "heel" against Hogan and not as a full blown heel.

Same period where he eliminated Triple H because he was obsessed with being the only one to go after Taker and then cost Taker his title when he knew he couldn't get revenge at Mania if Taker still had the title.
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James Steele is correct.
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James Steele is correct.
James Steele is also a complete faggot, who can't take his shit-stained cock out of Shawn Michaels ass long enough to form his own fucking opinions.

Hey Jimmy....how does Shawn's ass taste, you fucking prick?

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I think someone is a little jealous...
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:15 PM   #78
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A lot of the time yes, but not everything has to be done just to get someone over.

I think people overestimate just how much the win would get someone over. Yes it would be a huge notch on their fake sport highlight reel, and the few months after would be huge for that person. But wrestling fans these days are fickle, and after those few months, the excitement would start to level off, and it would be business as usual.

What I'm saying is you don't need to break the streak to get a guy over, and it's not going to add enough to any superstar, to where it's worth breaking the streak.

Let the guy have his legacy. No, the streak wouldn't be forgotten if it was broken, but it wouldn't be quite as cool.

And as I said, wrestling fans are fickle. 10 years later, fans may not look at the streak breaker any different than the other main eventers throughout history. But Taker's undefeated legacy would stand the test of time.
You sold me.

Taker's last match doesn't have to be a Wrestlemania Streak match either.
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I think someone is a little jealous...


Hey Noid...can you tell Jimmy Steele to do what this guy did? =P
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