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Old 11-08-2012, 02:53 AM   #41
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#1 Contender Match....2 out of 3 Falls.
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Ryback can barley make one match interesting. How is he going to pull of 2 out of 3 falls?
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:06 AM   #42
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Nah, even if the card isn't exactly what you had hoped to see, Wrestlemania live is still absolutely amazing, and totally worth the doolars.
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:17 AM   #43
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WWE Title Match
John Cena vs The Rock (c)

World Title Match
Chris Jericho vs Dolph Ziggler (c)

No Holds Barred
Brock Lesnar (w/ Paul Heyman) vs Ryback

Submission Match
Triple H (w/Ric Flair) vs CM Punk (w/ Paul Heyman)

Sheamus & Shaquille O'Neal vs The Miz & The Big Show

Money in the Bank Ladder Match
Kofi Kingston vs Christian vs Wade Barrett vs Cody Rhodes vs Damien Sandow vs Fandango vs Santino vs Randy Orton

Mask-a-Mania!
Rey Mysterio vs Sin Cara

WWE Divas Title Match
AJ vs Eve (c)

WWE Tag Team Title Match
Team Hell No vs Alberto Del Rio and Ricardo Rodriguez (c)

WWE United States Title Match
Jack Swagger vs Antonio Cesaro (c)
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:19 AM   #44
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Plus a battle royal for the pre-show.

I wouldn't mind that card.
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:39 AM   #45
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Ryback can barley make one match interesting. How is he going to pull of 2 out of 3 falls?
Just so CM Punk can beat him. Ryback gets tired.. ect CM Punk uses his comfortably with long matches to outlast him.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:20 AM   #46
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It's always hard to predict but this is what I feel we will get...

WWE Championship: The Rock (c) vs Brock Lesnar w. Paul Heyman
The Undertaker vs CM Punk
John Cena vs Ryback
World Heavyweight Championship: Some form of Orton/Sheamus/Ziggler/Big Show

The Rock could take the title from CM Punk at The Rumble... Brock could win the Rumble

Cena and Ryback seems like a natural match to me kind of like Hogan/Warrior

CM Punk challenging Taker makes the most sense of any guy on the roster. Brock is possible, but Brock/Rock has a lot of main stream appeal. CM Punk is the only guy that even really deserves a match with The Undertaker on the roster after the Triple H matches.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:22 PM   #47
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I don't see John Cena in the main event this year. There is too much talent that would outshine Cena. I've been saying he's on his way down for a while now, and yet, he's still appeared in most of the main events. It's just a matter of how loud the boos have to get before they cave in.
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Ryback is a virtual lock for me as far as the royal rumble winner. They'd be absolutely stupid not to have him win the Rumble at this point in his launch.

That's why I say Ryback vs. The Rock.

If The Rock won the title, and then Ryback came out and did some moves on him squash-style after his match, you don't think people would turn on Raw to see what The Rock is going to do about it? And even if they boo Ryback, which I doubt, you would have a mega heel, not something forced.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:32 PM   #49
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I don't see John Cena in the main event this year. There is too much talent that would outshine Cena. I've been saying he's on his way down for a while now, and yet, he's still appeared in most of the main events. It's just a matter of how loud the boos have to get before they cave in.
... The boos have gotten less loud over the years. If they were gonna "cave" they wouldn't do it now.

Cena is not on his way down. He's by far the biggest name on the full time roster and he's gonna continue to be treated as such. He's the face of the company. That's not changing any time soon.
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I guess we'll see what happens if he ever has a match against Ryback.
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There is a very good chance Ryback would win... and Cena would continue to be the franchise while they try to build Ryback as a superstar/crossover draw.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:51 PM   #52
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I think Ryback just screams World Heavyweight Champion to me. I don't see him as the standard bearer for the company.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:50 PM   #53
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I think Ryback just screams World Heavyweight Champion to me. I don't see him as the standard bearer for the company.
This. I think it's entirely possible that Ryback could win the Royal Rumble and challenge Big Show for the World Title at WrestleMania. I can't see him being put against The Rock, though. Rocky won't be on every show, so you need someone who can talk to make a feud with him relevant.

I still really want to see Brock Lesnar vs. Shawn Michaels at Mania. I think that would be one of the best matches the WWE could put forward, and one that would capture imaginations. Plus, they've already laid the ground work for it.

If the WWE is absolutely adamant about doing Rock vs. Cena (and I don't think they should be), then I would not mind seeing CM Punk & Brock Lesnar team up to face Triple H & Shawn Michaels. There would be a lot of story heading into that match.
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Punk and Lesnar vs. HHH/Michaels would be a pretty epic match.
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I'm as big of a Shawn Michaels mark as you'll find but I can't see any way Michaels realistically beats Lesnar so a singles match, while the hope of HBK pulling off the craziest upset of his career in an awesome "Broken down old man comes out of retirement to defeat the biggest monster in the company" moment, the fact that I can't see it happening kinda makes me not really wanna see it.

I feel like the idea of WrestleMania should be to have a card full of as many "main event" level matches as you can while trying your hardest to not do any matches that don't feel "unique" (Like Kane-Orton last year). That's why I'd prefer HHH vs Punk as a gimmick singles match. If they did go HBK vs Lesnar as well, that would leave Ryback to face Show for the World Title an you'd still have guys like Orton, Ziggler and Sheamus to throw in more "big time" matches. So that would be a plus.
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Old 11-10-2012, 12:38 AM   #56
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I'm as big of a Shawn Michaels mark as you'll find but I can't see any way Michaels realistically beats Lesnar so a singles match, while the hope of HBK pulling off the craziest upset of his career in an awesome "Broken down old man comes out of retirement to defeat the biggest monster in the company" moment, the fact that I can't see it happening kinda makes me not really wanna see it.

I feel like the idea of WrestleMania should be to have a card full of as many "main event" level matches as you can while trying your hardest to not do any matches that don't feel "unique" (Like Kane-Orton last year). That's why I'd prefer HHH vs Punk as a gimmick singles match. If they did go HBK vs Lesnar as well, that would leave Ryback to face Show for the World Title an you'd still have guys like Orton, Ziggler and Sheamus to throw in more "big time" matches. So that would be a plus.
That dynamic between Brock Lesnar and Shawn Michaels is what would make a Lesnar/Michaels match truly great, in my opinion. HBK is often called The Greatest of All-Time, and yet when you picture him mentally next to Lesnar, it just doesn't seem to play out. This is despite HBK vs. Kurt Angle at one point being a dream match, and Lesnar vs. Angle being perhaps the definitive rivalry of Lesnar's WWE career.

No one could make Lesnar look more devastating in the ring than Shawn Michaels could. Plus, I don't think Lesnar brutalising anyone else would have quite as powerful an effect as him beating on HBK would. A Sweet Chin Music out of nowhere on Lesnar could also be an amazing mark-out moment mid-match.

Do Lesnar vs. Triple H at Elimination Chamber, and have Triple H win on the basis of HBK intervention. That can be the trigger for Lesnar vs. HBK, with HBK requesting Triple H stay out of this, because Michaels has something to prove.

And Shawn Michaels wouldn't need to win. Just because reports say that Brock Lesnar has signed a one year deal with the WWE doesn't mean that is the only work the two parties will agree on. After WrestleMania, a story with Lesnar deciding that he wants to be WWE or World Heavyweight Champion could be pretty massive. There's also the possibility of a rubber match (possibly Hell in a Cell) between Triple H and Brock Lesnar at one of the PPVs between Mania and SummerSlam.
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You lost me at HBK losing. Fuck HBK losing. Ever.
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I said he didn't need to win. He's fucking HBK. The dude could lose to anyone and make it amazing.
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Going to throw a wildcard but I think Taker's match might be worthy of the final match spot.

From the way health reports are about him, next year's Mania really sounds like to be his last and maybe even his last match ever. No better way to end his legendary career with having the streak which has become as big as Mania itself close out the show.

The streak would have an official end in terms of matches possible and nothing else on the card would top the crowd cheering Taker to end the show knowing its his last.

Only problem is finding someone worthy to be that final opponent but Punk would make sense assuming Rock vs Cena occurs again.
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I think CM Punk vs John Cena may be the main event...
Or maybe Randy Orton vs The Rock...that would be good stuff.
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CM Punk is not ever going to headline Wrestlemania. He's already destroyed RAW's ratings.
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I don't think Orton is ever gonna headline a WrestleMania again. I'm pretty sure he's peaked. Even before his second strike, he was relegated to filler match with Kane at WrestleMania and he's been in random "these guys don't have anything to do right now" matches since then. He's probably the most established guy in the company not named John Cena but I don't think they wanna invest too much in him anymore. He definitely wouldn't be facing The Rock at Mania.
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:58 PM   #64
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I said he didn't need to win. He's fucking HBK. The dude could lose to anyone and make it amazing.
Yeah, and he even fell to Cena of all people at WM 23 and I’m still amazed by that classic. That, his match with Flair and the 2 with ’Taker were by far the highlights of some pretty lackluster WM’s of recent memory.
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:00 PM   #65
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I still get all choked up/ when Shawn mouths to Flair, “I’m sorry...I love you”, right before he SCM’s and pins Nature Boy...
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:04 PM   #66
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I said he didn't need to win. He's fucking HBK. The dude could lose to anyone and make it amazing.
He could. As an HBK mark though, I'm still bitter that WWE had him spend his entire prime putting people over. After he came back in 2002 it seems like he got some big wins including a month long reign as champion but he was mainly used to put others over. For 8 years. And he was the best WWE had to offer for those 8 years. But they "used" him as the guy to make everyone else look good because he was old. Not taking into account the fact that regardless of his age, he was far and away the best talent on the roster and could have had a legit "second career" as a true headliner.
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He's probably the last guy I'll ever be a true mark for as far as wanting to see someone win matches because of emotional investment and not because of how I feel the storyline should go.
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:30 PM   #68
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He could. As an HBK mark though, I'm still bitter that WWE had him spend his entire prime putting people over. After he came back in 2002 it seems like he got some big wins including a month long reign as champion but he was mainly used to put others over. For 8 years. And he was the best WWE had to offer for those 8 years. But they "used" him as the guy to make everyone else look good because he was old. Not taking into account the fact that regardless of his age, he was far and away the best talent on the roster and could have had a legit "second career" as a true headliner.
I was thinking about this just the other day. While it is true that Shawn Michaels was massively over without the title and probably didn't want it -- he was truly the best performer they had for many years. I wonder how different the WWE would be if HBK had been the go-to guy when it came to WWE Title reigns?
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Old 11-10-2012, 08:59 PM   #69
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I think Cena's reactions would be much different as he wouldn't have been forced into the position of carrying the main event so much as a face. Obviously, you still want Cena in the main event picture as he was younger. Even still winning WWE/World titles back and forth with HBK. He just wouldn't be over-exposed.
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:43 PM   #70
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That is what my mind originally went to. Cena's original overexposure might have been avoided. In fact, the majority of the IWC might feel Cena to be "underused."
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:46 PM   #71
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On a slightly related note, I still stand by my opinion of the time that JBL should have walked out of WrestleMania 21 the WWE Champion. Cena should have gone into the PPV as the United States Champion (not dropping the title to Orlando Jordan before the event), and his bout with JBL should have ended with OJ and The Cabinet attacking Cena as it looked like he was about to win the title. This would have also explained for the time constraints put on the match.

Judgment Day would have been Cena's big moment, where he could have gotten JBL in the I Quit Match still, and he could have taken out each Cabinet member the weeks heading into the show in US Title matches.
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:47 PM   #72
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Seeing as WM is in NY area this year the Donald should return for battle of the billionaires again. Ryback for Trump and Lesnar for Vince. This time instead of shaving heads, loser's wife has to run for the Senate.
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Old 11-13-2012, 04:33 PM   #73
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As opinionated as I am, I can see The Rock not winning at Rumble too, and they could use the assumption that The Rock would carry the title into Wrestlemania to sell tickets without making his match about the belt...
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Old 11-13-2012, 04:44 PM   #74
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Why of have CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan for the main-event?

Daniel Bryan is over like crazy right now. I'd have him win the rumble to be honest.

-CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan
-The Rock vs. John Cena II
-Ryback vs. Lesnar

At Royal Rumble, CM Punk faces and defeats The Rock due to Cena interference.
Cena defeats The Rock at Mania while Bryan defeats Punk. Ryback also goes over Lesnar.
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:58 PM   #75
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With all the Rock/Cena/Brock/Punk iterations available, nobody has considered Punk vs Brock. I think that'd be a pretty interesting match-up with Heyman in the middle trying to play peace maker.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:41 PM   #76
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Why of have CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan for the main-event?

Daniel Bryan is over like crazy right now. I'd have him win the rumble to be honest.

-CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan
-The Rock vs. John Cena II
-Ryback vs. Lesnar

At Royal Rumble, CM Punk faces and defeats The Rock due to Cena interference.
Cena defeats The Rock at Mania while Bryan defeats Punk. Ryback also goes over Lesnar.
Punk vs. Bryan is something I have thought about, but have kept quiet about because most people think that if you have two indy darlings face each other at WrestleMania, then you are calling for the titles to be unified by them. I'm of the opinion that Bryan should be in a high profile match at WrestleMania, though, because he is the best worker the WWE has, and he is fantastically over. Why would you not capitalise on that?

I'd rather see Ziggler vs. Bryan for the World Title than Ziggler vs. Orton. Let Ziggler and Bryan go at it and have the best possible wrestling match they can to counter-balance the "spectacles."
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:07 PM   #77
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I'm of the opinion that Bryan should be in a high profile match at WrestleMania, though, because he is the best worker the WWE has, and he is fantastically over. Why would you not capitalise on that?
My thoughts exactly. Punk vs. Bryan would also be one helluva wrestling match.

As far as Ziggler goes, I'd have him job to Orton in an earlier non-title match.......but then have him "cash in" after a hard fought Sheamus/Barret title match.

A scenario I have in my mind is this:

-Sheamus and Barret have a huge hard fought match for the title that Sheamus barely wins. After the match, the two men shake hands. Out of nowhere, Ziggler goes into cash. Barret comes back and knocks out Ziggler (Barret thinks its wrong for Ziggler to take advantage of a tired half-dead Sheamus).

Sheamus pins Ziggler for the 1-2-3 and retains.

Barret gives a thumbs up to Sheamus, but warns Sheamus that he's coming after the title next month.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:22 AM   #78
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Not bad. And honestly, something like that is likely to happen. I do think that the WWE should try and get Chris Jericho in for a match against Ziggler at WrestleMania, though.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:12 AM   #79
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I'd job Orton to Ziggler. WWE needs to phase Randy Orton out and have him put over guys left and right so when he fucks up again and they fire him, he will be useless in TNA like every other WWE castoff they signed.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:22 AM   #80
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I actually agree with this. Really hope they don't put Orton in the World Title match at WrestleMania next year. Have Orton put over someone in either the IC or US Title match.
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