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Old 12-01-2012, 03:45 AM   #41
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why is Ambrose the only one who wears gloves?
Sweaty hands. Mad embarrassing.
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:40 AM   #42
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Be it if I'm on the right or wrong size of the debate, you guys make it sound as if the comparison between Seth and Dean is like the disparity between Zach Gowen and Big Show. Even Reigns isn't exactly towering a foot and a half above the other two or anything.

Seriously, who cares about a couple inches?


... besides WWE I mean. I meant here. I know WWE cares, seeing as how the "boring"* half of the Kings of Wrestling is getting a stellar singles push on the main roster, while Chris Hero is "languishing" on NXT as a grizzlebearded hipster with a weird name who has a hard-on for hurting Steamboat's kid.

There isn't anything spectacularly abysmal about Seth Rollins, even though some of you are making him out to be some nobody loser who will never amount to anything. He shouldn't be main-eventing anything besides NXT right now (he's still the champ, right?), but he shouldn't be cast down simply because he can't quite emote on the mic on the level of Ambrose. Hell, there are people who have been in WWE for years who aren't that good, and that's just going from the promo in question, not any of his indy gold, or his feud with Foley, or even his feud with Regal.

Rollins is no vanilla midget. He just needs a bit of polish and his time to shine. However, right now ain't it.


*I mean "boring" as in people shitting all over his promo skills in these forums... but he is tall and has abs, so it's acceptable!
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:38 AM   #43
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Pretty glad Rollins won't be doing any of that horrible moshing while he's in The Shield though. If he starts it once they break up I'll probably instantly think he's terrible.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:13 AM   #44
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Yeah. Rollins is taller I think, but he is definitely "lanky" compared to Ambrose.
They are all vanilla midgets. Typical indie garbage.
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:42 PM   #45
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They are all vanilla midgets. Typical indie garbage.
You do understand that every wrestler starts somewhere. Do you think that guys like Stone Cold and HHH just started in the WWE?
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:48 PM   #46
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Old 12-01-2012, 03:19 PM   #47
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They are all vanilla midgets. Typical indie garbage.
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Old 12-01-2012, 03:49 PM   #49
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... besides WWE I mean. I meant here. I know WWE cares, seeing as how the "boring"* half of the Kings of Wrestling is getting a stellar singles push on the main roster, while Chris Hero is "languishing" on NXT as a grizzlebearded hipster with a weird name who has a hard-on for hurting Steamboat's kid.

*I mean "boring" as in people shitting all over his promo skills in these forums... but he is tall and has abs, so it's acceptable!
I think he is getting a stellar singles push because he has this unusual ability to pull a good to great match out of anyone, from Brodus Clay to Tyson Kidd. And while he may be an Indy guy, he doesn't "look" like an Indy guy. Luke Harper is going to have the same thing going for him when he gets called up.

Hero, on the other hand, kind of looks like a tall version of an Indy guy.
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Old 12-01-2012, 09:16 PM   #50
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Kassius Ohno will be tremendous when he is called up. The dude can make anyone he is in the ring with look good, just like Cesaro.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:05 PM   #51
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can't wait till Hero is up, still don't like saying Kassius Ohno though
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can't wait till Hero is up, still don't like saying Kassius Ohno though
Ohno can be a good gimmick if it's pronounced "Oh No!".
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Kassius Ohno will be tremendous when he is called up. The dude can make anyone he is in the ring with look good, just like Cesaro.
Ohno is 10x worse than any of The Shield members. He's too skinny, his gimmick sucks and he's boring on the mic.
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You do understand that every wrestler starts somewhere. Do you think that guys like Stone Cold and HHH just started in the WWE?
HHH was a rich guy who came right into the WWE, and Stone Cold was brought in by the Million Dollar Man. No indie wrestling at all.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:48 AM   #57
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The Shield should call themselves generic heel stable, it's a more fitting name. WWE writers suck ass. TV pg sucks. Not serious business and the workrate is shit. Ahhhhhh! RYBACK is good though.
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Triple H and Stone Cold both had time in WCW before coming to WWE. Austin had a really good run in WCW that got cut short due to injury and politics.
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Ohno is 10x worse than any of The Shield members. He's too skinny, his gimmick sucks and he's boring on the mic.
I actually like the fact that he has a gimmick. He's a prime example of why WWE needs a cruiserweight division though. Guys like him and Rollins need their own division where they can do what they do best and "reach the top" without actually having the same expectations as a guy like Cena.

Vince clearly is still all about size but over the years he's started to try to cater to the IWC a little by giving small guys title runs. And even while having two main titles so you can fuck around with one and not take it seriously, it's still generally ridiculous. It seems like he should be all over bringing back a division to please the IWC while still keeping his main event scene realistic.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:03 AM   #61
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Why would Vince do anything specifically for the IWC? None of us buy anything but WrestleMania or the Royal Rumble.
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Well there was some demographic he was trying to appease by putting the title on Daniel Bryan when he did. I know old Vince would have fired his entire writing staff if the notion of someone like that winning the title came up.
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Also, "we" buy merchandise and DVDs and stuff that cater to our smarkish/vanilla midget loving needs.
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Also, "our moms buy merchandise and DVDs and stuff that cater to our smarkish/vanilla midget loving needs.
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Do you seriously think Daniel Bryan wasn't over when they put the belt on him? Certainly not as over as he is now, but it wasn't just a "Man, I bet those internet geeks will love this!" decision. WWE knows what they have in Daniel Bryan. Since the end of the 80s boom, WWE has shown it will put the belt on guys who they feel is the "best wrestler" as long as they are over and have enough charisma to market them. See: Michaels, Hart, Angle, Lesnar, Eddie, Benoit, Punk, Jericho, and even Bob Backlund. Especially with 2 world titles, they can cover both bases.
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They've actually done it since they started having two world titles. Benoit as champion should have never happened.
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And Santino was over when he was fighting for the title at Elimination Chamber. That doesn't mean they should have put the World Heavyweight Championship around his waist.
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That's wrong! Where is the Shield to right that injustice for XL?

I love how Dean Ambrose was called bullshit on Cole saying "some people" in his questions. Hate when journalists use that term. Some people? Who?
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:42 AM   #70
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They've actually done it since they started having two world titles. Benoit as champion should have never happened.
100% agree been saying this forever. Benoit was never over enough to be champ. He'd get a big response when his music hit, the crowd would then go completely dead until he hit his triple germans and crossface.

He never should have been anything more than U.S Champ
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It was a nice "story" to him winning the title. The dude had zero charisma and wasn't likable past being the underdog. That's great for getting a lucky title win. Then what? He never was and never would have come remotely close to being "the guy" in the company. I think the champion should be a guy you can be proud to throw out to the media and promote as "This is us" and Benoit never had it. Neither did Bryan. Bryan is fucking perfect where he is.

Two world titles has kinda put them in a position where they can "try" a lot of stuff and throw the title on guys who don't work to see if something sticks. All it does is make winning the title meaningless. Benoit did it. Punk did it with his first reign. Bryan did it.
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Bryan is perfect in a upper mid card role, but if he's your WWE/World Champion, then that's a problem.

This isn't trolling, but Bret Hart was champion because basically they had nobody else. HUGLY popular outside of the U.S, but the U.S is your prime market.

Punk hasn't exactly lit the world on fire as champ and neither did Eddie or Jericho.

Lesnar, Angle and HBK are the only 3 in that list who I would consider viable World Champions.
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I have no idea why Lesnar is in the discussion...
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In no way, shape or form would Lesnar be a "vanilla midget".
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Lesnar is pretty much the exact opposite of a midget.
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He wouldn't have gotten the push he got if he wasn't so damn good in the ring. Otherwise, he would have been like every other hoss. My whole point was that WWE has a history of pushing people either faster or moreso than they normally would if they are undoubtedly a great wrestler.
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Yes. I agree.
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I don't think anyone argued with that. The Great Khali had a great look. Looked intimidating as fuck. Great heel in that way. I think putting the title on him was a shit idea too though.

If you don't have a good look and aren't marketable though/look like you'd fit in better as a referee than a WWE champion, all the technical wrestling skill in the world doesn't really mean much.
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As much as Vince McMahon loves hosses and things, I think he still has an innate love and passion for great wrestling. Maybe not in the same sense we see it (ie. cruisers), but he loves seeing two guys put on a classic physical story.

I disagree with Benoit and Daniel Bryan. History will not be kind to Benoit, but he was over and deserved to be World Champion when he won it. Daniel Bryan did get the belt too early, but he grew into it and his descent into heeldom was masterful and beautiful. Daniel Bryan is as over as anybody in the WWE and can easily be a marketable WWE Champion. I think he will make his biggest impact and meaningful reigns as a heel and/or tweener. He has limited appeal as a cleancut babyface.
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Could you really buy WWE selling Daniel Bryan headlining WrestleMania?
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