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Old 03-21-2013, 07:30 AM   #41
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Ezekiel Jackson.

Outside of the small IC title reign and jokes by wrestlers about what the back of his head looks like, he hasn't really done much in the WWE in the past several years. Being injured for most of last year hasn't helped either.
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:36 AM   #42
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Christian should be released for sure. Boring as fuck.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:02 AM   #43
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Otunga isn't going anywhere as long as he's Mr. Hudson. I can't see Alex Riley going anywhere in WWE
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:47 AM   #44
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I'm surprised Alex Riley never gets a match, even Yoshi Tatsu appeared out of the abyss on Main Event the other week.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:59 AM   #45
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:31 AM   #46
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Heath Slater is a future World Champ! Christian will be jobbing his way out the door to Slater. No room for vanilla midgets in this company.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:49 AM   #47
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Yoshi Tatsu will stick around until another Japanese wrestler replaces him- I imagine they want at least one at all times for promotional appearances and such.

I wouldnt go as far as saying Heath Slater will be world champ some day- but I think he'll have a long career
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Christian is a former World Heavyweight Champion. Slater is a former........something
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Christian is a way better heel and probably at this point best served in a tag team with an up and coming heel.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:00 AM   #50
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Otunga could easily have a future if they actually did something with him. He got great reactions when he was Johnny Ace's adviser and all he had to do was show up and sip coffee and get squashed once in a while. They should have tossed him in to the movie feud with Miz and Barrett.
I agree with tossing Otunga into the Miz/Barrett rivalry. Have Brad Maddox throw Otunga into their WrestleMania match as the Special Guest Referee to "spice" their bout up. He doesn't even need to do anything heelish, but I guess he could cost The Miz the match and then put Miz over in coming weeks to bounce him back.

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I miss pre-3MB Slater.
I miss Justin Gabriel & Heath Slater Heath Slater. I really think the WWE had Gabriel & Slater split way too early. They just sort of broke up because they were both put into Money in the Bank in 2011. They really should have worked together in that match and stayed together as a tag team afterwards.

I really like 3MB, although I don't see much more for them beyond what they are doing now. Give them a few more months of being goofs before they fight over a Diva or something. Hell, have it be Vickie Guerrero. Heath Slater and Vickie Guerrero paired together would be a heat machine. Turn McIntyre face in light of everything, have him go over Slater a few times, and then have Slater beat Mahal to get some heat back. Or perhaps even have Slater & Mahal hold try-outs for a new band member. They can beat down guys that don't fit their mold.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:01 AM   #51
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Alex Riley is one of those guys that could be released tomorrow, but could also be repackaged and pushed to the moon just as easily. If the WWE re-signed John Morrison, I really wouldn't mind a heel turn for The Miz, a re-pairing of the two, and Alex Riley to join them as an extra hand.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:07 AM   #52
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Christian is so fucking good, but as a face he gets to show no personality. Also, it doesn't make sense when he switches from being a CLB to a heroic underdog. The WWE had the chance to give him an underdog face push in 2011, but decided that they wanted wormy Christian. Then Daniel Bryan did wormy tiny heel champ well in 2012, so Christian was brought back as a face. It seems like they've got no real idea as to what to do with Christian.

I'd personally enjoy Christian winning the World Heavyweight Championship Money in the Bank Ladder Match later in the year, and the WWE doing a storyline where he's technically a face, but everyone thinks he'll cash his title shot in like a CLB, because they don't think he's got the "right stuff" to be a champion. You can either go with Christian proving them right and being a sneak who cashes in Edge-style, or you can have him challenge heroically, and either win or lose and go off the deep end.

Also, I remember wishing at SummerSlam 2011 that Kevin Nash would return as Diesel and help Christian retain in his No Disqualification Match against Randy Orton. At Night of Champions, Christian could have retained the World Heavyweight Title against some babyface and Orton could have beaten Diesel in a match without a title on the line -- setting up their big rivalry-ender in Hell in a Cell.

Christian could have been such a good heel champ. I still think he can, but I think he will return as a face. Christian beating Cesaro for the US Title and then feuding with Jack Swagger over it could be a good use for the guy.
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:55 AM   #53
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heath slater is the only one on your list i do not agree with, ok he is jobber for life but i always see him working. thr guy gets moves and faces over.
That's pretty much textbook "no future."
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:57 AM   #54
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I really liked Riley in NXT, he was like a jock bully from an 80s teen movie. Kind of like the dude in Karate Kid / Just One Of The Guys. Give him that gimmick!



Also, while googling Alex Riley, I found a, er, bromance pic of him and The Miz. Eeesh!

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Old 03-22-2013, 06:24 PM   #55
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I always liked the idea of pairing Riley with Swagger (back when Swagger was jobbing) as a pair of jock-like bullies with a heel J.R. as their "Coach".
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:35 PM   #56
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Alex Riley has been getting a small push every time he's on TV lately. Usually into wall, often through a table.
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Old 03-22-2013, 10:13 PM   #57
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Hey, what if Zack Ryder began wearing tights that said "NO FUTURE"? That could help him into a fresher gimmick.

Or maybe have Kofi Kingston do that because WWE apparently will FINALLY give him a heel run! I just hope they let Kingston be himself, as HHH wants to move away from 100% scripted promos.
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Old 03-23-2013, 07:36 AM   #58
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Could Kofi pull off a heel turn? Maybe when he was Jamaican, now I'm not so sure.
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Old 03-23-2013, 10:19 AM   #59
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Kofi Kingston could really pull off an angry African immigrant desperate to be a success really well. He would just stop smiling, and be more focused on winning matches than doing high-risk stunts. When he won the IC Title from The Miz on Main Event, he worked a much stricter "in your face" style that could work as heel offence for the guy.

In a bizarre way, I actually wouldn't mind it if Kofi Kingston and Dolph Ziggler joined forces, in the sense that Randy Orton and Edge joined forces for a while. They have pretty much spent their entire careers as rivals -- their familiarity with one another could breed effective team work. Also, having Big E. Langston as muscle could work for Kingston and add "weight" to his style. Down the track, he and Big E. could betray Dolph, thus turning Dolph face for a series of higher profile matches with his rival.
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Kofi should come out with a spear and shield and call himself "Saba Simba Jr"
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Why do they even bother dragging Alex Riley around the country if they never use him? Does he get Saturday Slam matches I don't know about?
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Zack Ryder kind of needs to go, he's got Carlito syndrome where he thinks he's amazing and publicly criticizes his lack of a push all the time.
Nah, he actually has a legit gripe.
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No. No he doesn't. He's a mid carder.
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Fuck. I hate agreeing with Gertner.

They gave him plenty of chances to "click" when he got his internet fanbase and he never did. The whole Jersey Shore gimmick is DOA now anyway. Evolve or die.
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Old 03-24-2013, 04:16 PM   #66
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Is Ryder totally to blame for "blowing his chance"?

He was over, really over for a period. He won the US Title, was used as a pawn by Kane to get to Cena in a throwaway feud that went nowhere, was used by Eve, lost his title, written out of in-ring competition by a laughable "broken back" angle, miracously returned in a matter of weeks, was made a fool of on the biggest show of the year, never got any kind of vengeance on Kane or Eve and was brushed under the carpet whilst still very popular.

They didn't really give him all that much to work with tbf.

What could he have done differently, given the restraints of the booking?
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Old 03-24-2013, 04:33 PM   #67
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Yeah, Ryder wasn't really at fault there. He was actually really over for a time. If they went another way with the booking, he could have stayed a consistent midcard face.
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:04 PM   #68
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Think he took the "fall" or blame for the poor RAW ratings after TLC 2011 although didn't get "The Miz" treatment where if he took the sole blame willingly, he'd be rewarded in the future.

Looking back, it would have been a lot better to keep the Ziggler-Ryder feud going on for a bit longer instead of pairing him up with Cena for the Kane feud since it did nothing for him.
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:06 PM   #69
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Zack Ryder's mic work is horrendous. I haven't "believed" a word he's said on TV. Maybe it's just because of the character and he'd be more capable otherwise, but I'm glad he's not a focal point right now.
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:24 PM   #70
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The whole 'siiiiiiick bro' promo style is annoying, we've all met dickheads like that in real life, it's off-putting.
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:57 PM   #71
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Is Ryder totally to blame for "blowing his chance"?

He was over, really over for a period. He won the US Title, was used as a pawn by Kane to get to Cena in a throwaway feud that went nowhere, was used by Eve, lost his title, written out of in-ring competition by a laughable "broken back" angle, miracously returned in a matter of weeks, was made a fool of on the biggest show of the year, never got any kind of vengeance on Kane or Eve and was brushed under the carpet whilst still very popular.

They didn't really give him all that much to work with tbf.

What could he have done differently, given the restraints of the booking?
Triple H got thrown in pig shit.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:10 PM   #72
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Triple H got thrown in pig shit.
Triple H is also Triple H. He could go through hell and come out smelling like a fucking rose. Ryder's perfectly capable of being a midcard face, but WWE dropped the ball. Dude's got a legit reason to bitch. His fall wasn't his fault, it was bad booking and lack of creativity in the writing team.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:18 PM   #73
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He was in multiple marquee angles, had an entire RAW built around him and a legit A-list actor, won a championship, and he didn't stick. If he had legitimately gotten over with an audience other than the IWC he'd be on TV more. Instead, we saw how shallow his gimmick, his talents, and his fanbase really were.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:24 PM   #74
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People still buy his gear and chant we want Ryder on occasion what the hell are you talking about? He could still be where he was if WWE hadn't lost interest. The fans never stopped liking Ryder, management did.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:25 PM   #75
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WWE just weren't content with having a solid midcard guy. He didn't push through to the main event so they dropped him like they have so many others. WWE today is all about "You're either main event or you're not worth our time".
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:34 PM   #76
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Santino is a good example of that too. The guy is crazy talented and has gotten ridiculous responses when teased as a main eventer. He isn't a main eventer in his current gimmick but could be amazing in a midcard role that doesn't make him a random jobber.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:35 PM   #77
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Despite obviously being much better than Ryder, HHH was also a heel when he got thrown in pig shit. Nobody's going to want to cheer a guy who is consistently made to look like a little bitch and never get the upper hand. It was bad booking / was never intended to get Ryder over. He could have been a servicable midcard babyface if they hadn't completely drowned him in proverbial pig shit week after week and then just to drive the point home they had Eve kick him in the dick at Wrestlemania.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:38 PM   #78
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I just don't see how Ryder has been screwed. I haven't Ryder chants in months. He got TV time and was all over the place and he didn't stick. Not WWE's fault that his cult following didn't translate over the long term.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:43 PM   #79
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Yeah, he’s also a 2-time World Heavyweight Champion. But let’s just sweep that under the rug.
Find one instance throughout the title feud with Orton where he was made to look good, strong or the equal of Orton. I'm as big a fan of Christian as anyone but even his title runs were done horribly and the fact that he has not had direction or character development in a year and a half is pretty solid evidence towards the validity of my original point.
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JTG needs to get pushed.
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