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Old 04-01-2013, 08:31 AM   #41
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Cause Bret Hart was a fuckin' Wordsworth on the mic? Cesaro let's his ring work do the talking.
Yes, and the company nearly folded with Bret as champ. Then he went to WCW and they wentout of business.
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Old 04-01-2013, 10:22 AM   #42
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(Looking into this from the WWE Universe point of view)

Remember back in 2004 or so after The Rock retired for good, most of us agreed that Steve Austin would always be the one to have the better legacy compare to The Rock, but as of right now, The Rock will forever have the better legacy. I'm kind of happy that Rock was able to show the world that he was still relevant in the current WWE landscape of today, by swiftly coming back to win the WWE Championship from CM Punk with relative ease. The icing on the cake was marking his own stamp in the game by introducing his custom WWE Championship into the fold, which I know will be used for many years to come.

I give Cena huge respect because his "Spinner" belt proved to be more than just a gimmick, since it became the official WWE Championship belt for 8 years. It wasn't short lived like Steve Austin's Smoking Skull belt.

And now back to The Rock. I think Rock's legacy is complete in the fact that his career has finally come full circle. His career and legacy will forever be greater than Steve Austin's. Thing is with Austin is he was too one dimensional. Same goes for The Undertaker. Rock's legacy will forever be better than The Undertakers' (even if he retires with the streak).

It really seals the deal when a wrestler can cross over. I respect Brock Lesnar because he became a UFC Champion.

As for the next generation, Rock still proves that he is still relevant and that he's still the man by disposing of Punk pretty easily. Maybe Punk isn't there yet. I like and find Punk far more entertaining than The Rock, but Rock is still the alpha male in this situation. Like I said, Punk still has many years left. Also, Rock easily shows he is superior and more dominant than John Cena

If I were The Rock, I would retire for good, right abouts now, and try not to tarnish the legacy by "sticking around" a la Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair.

From a 'WWE guy' point of view or from the mainstream 'WWE Machine' standpoint, kayfabe wise, nobody can touch The Rock right now.
i'm having a hard time with this part.
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Old 04-02-2013, 04:36 AM   #43
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I guess it's not fair to Mark, but The Undertaker was always on the same level as Austin in the sense that he never crossed over like Hogan/Rock/Brock did. They are therefore limited to the WWE Universe landscape.

It does affect one's legacy and gives your legacy more credibility once you were able to find legitimate success outside of the WWE. It's like that average kid who hung around with his friends, but one day he graduated and became part of the cool crowd and started sitting with them at lunch, leaving his old friends behind.

Old friends (WWE Universe)
Cool kids (Hollywood Universe or mainstream sports)

Hogan was in a huge Rocky film. Rock is a bonafied A-lister. Brock Lesnar became a legitimate UFC Champion. Undertaker and Austin never really reached the same level of mainstream success.

Cena tried to make his own movies as well, and so did Batista. But whether they tried to make a success outside of WWE, is not the point. Triple H had a bit more success than these two since he was in Blade 3 which was not a WWE produced film (like the Chaperone)
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He has no large pop culture legacy. The legacy of The Undertaker as a wrestler is only topped by only Hogan, Flair, Rock, Austin.
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You know who seems to be left out of the conversation way too much when it comes to wrestlers who had huge mainstream appeal/a household name? Andre the Giant.

Seems like it's always Rock, Austin, Hogan and then a drop off. EVERYONE knows who Andre the Giant is though.
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:02 AM   #46
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You know who seems to be left out of the conversation way too much when it comes to wrestlers who had huge mainstream appeal/a household name? Andre the Giant.

Seems like it's always Rock, Austin, Hogan and then a drop off. EVERYONE knows who Andre the Giant is though.
True. I guess because in the "modern era" he only has 2 mainstream "moments" or claims to fame: Princess Bride and WrestleMania III and his health went down hill before he could really capitalize on his new global fame to a large degree.
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