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Old 06-24-2013, 02:24 PM   #1
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WWE Payback '13
Jun 16th 2013		Alberto Del Riodef. (pin)Dolph Ziggler (c)
World Heavyweight Championship (WWE)
WWE Smackdown! Taping
Jun 11th 2013		Alberto Del Rio & Chris Jerichodef. (pin)Big E. Langston & Dolph Ziggler

WWE Monday Night Raw
May 6th 2013		Alberto Del Riodef. (DQ)Dolph Ziggler

WWE Smackdown! Taping
Apr 30th 2013		Alberto Del Rio & Ricardo Rodriguezdef. (pin)Jack Swagger & Zeb Colter, Big E. Langston & Dolph Zigglertriple-threat tag
WWE Monday Night Raw
Apr 29th 2013		Dolph Zigglerdef. (pin)Kofi Kingston

WWE Monday Night Raw Taping
Apr 22nd 2013		Dolph Zigglerdef. (pin)Chris Jericho

WWE Monday Night Raw
Apr 15th 2013		Jack Swaggerdef. (pin)Dolph Ziggler

WWE Smackdown! Taping
Apr 9th 2013		Dolph Zigglerdef. (pin)Chris Jericho

WWE Monday Night Raw
Apr 8th 2013		Dolph Zigglerdef. (pin)Alberto Del Rio (c)
World Heavyweight Championship (WWE)
Umm?

Edit: ok nevermind I see he's actually 4-6, but 2 of the matches were tag.
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Old 06-24-2013, 06:54 PM   #2
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Umm?

Edit: ok nevermind I see he's actually 4-6, but 2 of the matches were tag.
I was just counting his matches as champion. So he was 3-5 there and 0-1 in his first reign.
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:03 PM   #3
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I think The Shield might actually have lost more than they've won now since winning titles, too. WWE likes to give people titles and then make them look weaker while they have it. It's bizarre. Makes no sense.
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Old 06-24-2013, 08:44 PM   #4
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It's called winning when you have to. Now they are playing smart and only caring about the titles instead of winning every meaningless 6-man tag.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:13 PM   #5
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It's called winning when you have to. Now they are playing smart and only caring about the titles instead of winning every meaningless 6-man tag.
I do hate it when champions lose as often as many have been lately, but I have to agree with this. The Shield throwing matches to a DQ is actually pretty great heel strategy.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:16 PM   #6
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It's called winning when you have to. Now they are playing smart and only caring about the titles instead of winning every meaningless 6-man tag.
Yeah, the fact that it happens so often with others makes me feel like you're giving WWE's booking way too much credit with that theory.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:17 PM   #7
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In their case though, it's not just DQs. They're actually losing via pinfall/submission as much as they did their entire existence before they won titles.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:18 PM   #8
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To Daniel Bryan, who is the hottest thing in wrestling.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:19 PM   #9
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Seth Rollins lost in a singles match, but he's a tag team guy so that's not the end of the world. The Shield did lose on SmackDown recently, but that was a six-man tag, and they aren't the Six-Man Tag Team Champions.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:21 PM   #10
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... I never said they lost the titles or lost specifically in situations that fit the titles they have.

I said they are weaker. You're basically saying "They lost in a 6 man tag but they only need to be strong in regular tag team situations and Ambrose in singles situations so anything else is fine." lol
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Old 06-25-2013, 12:03 AM   #11
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... I never said they lost the titles or lost specifically in situations that fit the titles they have.

I said they are weaker. You're basically saying "They lost in a 6 man tag but they only need to be strong in regular tag team situations and Ambrose in singles situations so anything else is fine." lol
Ugh. Why do you always do this? I never said you did say that.
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Just like Barrett got weaker when he was champ. Just like Cesaro got weaker when he was champ...
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Not anything else is fine. The situations so far have been fine, though. It has made other guys look great.
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lol. You're trying to make excuses for why it's okay just to disagree. I said they're losing more and looking weaker now. That's a fact. You think it's fine because it makes others look good? Okay. Fine. That doesn't counter what I said. They're losing more and looking weaker.
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I actually didn't like The Sheild (except for Ambrose) until deeper in their run when they were winning so much there was just this need to see them get what was coming to them. It added to their matches. They're losing enough now to where that feeling has kinda worn off and they're getting quite generic.
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Haven't they lost like one match? Lol.
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Just looked it up. They've lost 8 tv matches since winning titles.
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By pinfall/submission?
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4 by pinfall/submission.

I think they only lost 1 or 2 in the 7 months prior.
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I didn't think they had lost that much. They seem to carry themselves like winners to me.
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It's mainly Seth "weak link" Rollins. lol

My point is that winning a title seems to be followed by booking to lose more. Which is a ridiculous way of going about things. It seems like that's when you want your guys to look like a champion by being difficult to beat as opposed to making you question why a guy like Wade Barrett has a title considering he jobs weekly. A title should signify your stature as a force.
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Yeah. They should just do away with having matches completely. It's 2013. Winning and losing matches doesn't mean anything.

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Says the guy who makes it a point to come in and bitch about me constantly.

You're failing at your Team Gorm audition. You're doing it wrong.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:45 AM   #26
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Says the guy who makes it a point to come in and bitch about me constantly.
Well, the world would be a better place if you didn't exist. You should join Team Gorm.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:47 AM   #27
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Well, the world would be a better place if you didn't exist. You should join Team Gorm.
Yours certainly would. Your retarded thoughts on wrestling and the world in general would have less of that pesky reason to deal with.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:04 AM   #28
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Says the guy who makes it a point to come in and bitch about me constantly.

You're failing at your Team Gorm audition. You're doing it wrong.
No. He actually asked us when we first formed about it but we had to deny him for being a idiot; therefore, he already failed.
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It's not like they are being made to look like Sunday Night Heat enhancement talent. The Shield still looks strong as fuck and they are helping build the tag team division.
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It's on reason. It is over-analyzing and whining when they don't follow your armchair booking.
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Duct tape.
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We do agree on a few things: duct tape doesn't belong in main events, Kaitlyn has nice tits, and Vince McMahon is a genius beyond measure.
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What about opening matches?
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:59 AM   #34
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Duct Tape is a mid carder at best
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I'd love it if Santino decided to use a "Full Metal Cobra" wrapped in duct tape.
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...or if Hornswoggle turned heel and duct taped Khali's knees together while he is standing up.
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...or if Hornswoggle turned heel and duct taped Khali's knees together while he is standing up.
Probably would make 0 difference.
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Probably would make 0 difference.
Might actually help him to walk, probably should save that to turn Heath Slater face.

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