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Old 07-27-2013, 01:49 PM   #41
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I could this being the case. However, do we know who's running these promo days or teaching the NXT folks how to cut promos? Not that I want him off my tv anytime soon, but I would think someone like Heyman would be a great person to learn promo skills from.

Of course it also depends on what kind of promo material (scripted or not, etc.) their given to work with. If they get a shitty scripted promo, for a storyline that doesn't make much sense and they have a gimmick that doesn't really reflect even a little who they are, there's only so much they can do with that.

Pretty sure Dusty Rhodes does it
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Old 07-27-2013, 02:59 PM   #42
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I guess lack of talent is not quite the correct way to phrase it. I agree in ring talent is not an issue, and sure mic talent can be somewhat subjective, but I do feel like though there's definitely a lack of drive, concern, initiative from a lot of folks on the roster currently. I feel like a lot of guys on the roster now, (not everyone, and maybe not some of the new folks) don't want to work to get to that main event level.

Absolutely there is too much "sameness" both in terms of position on the card, 3 levels instead of 4 or 5, but also in terms of characters and gimmicks. Some of that absolutely has to do with management and writing staffs, but if we're being fair and honest, it also has to do with the guys on the roster. I feel like guys like HHH, Rock, Austin, Taker, Jericho, HBK, Edge, Foley, continually worked and fought, not only to be main eventers, but to move up, improve themselves and the product.

No matter what level they were at, those guys never would have sat around (at least not for too long) waiting on the writing team or management to come up with a gimmick or an interesting storyline. They also would have fought (with management & each other) for story lines, mic time, ring time, etc. If there were stupid or shitty booking plans or writing, they would have argued and fought with management and the writing team to at least try and improve them.

A lack of concern, initiative and willingness to act to change or better themselves and the whole product, by a lot of the roster is what I mean by lack of talent.
I don't buy for a second that the guys on today's roster don't want to be bigger/do better/move up/etc.

Guys like Ziggler and Bryan and Cody Rhodes and Punk go out there week in, week out and go "pedal-to-the-metal" in the ring, often taking risks that they don't need to on free TV. Then you have a guy like Ryder who got himself over in spite of creative/booking/management only for them to do so very little with him.

As for lack of initiative, someone already pointed out that back in the day of HBK/HHH/Austin/Rock those guys had options. They could jump to WCW. Also, admittedly from hearsay, you've a 50/50 chance of getting away with getting in Vince's face about the way you're being used. For every Jericho that it worked for, there's probably 4 or 5 guys that got jobbed out for "speaking out of turn".
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Remember when Miz got over as a heel just because they actually let him have the microphone before each match he had?
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