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Old 11-18-2013, 07:17 AM   #41
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Hey guys, let's discuss how The Undertaker is ruining the buyrates of PPVs by only competing part-time and "taking spots away from guys" at WrestleMania. If it weren't for him, WWE BATTLEGROUND would have done huge numbers!
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Old 11-18-2013, 07:34 AM   #42
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The problem isn't so much that they bring in these part-timers, it's what they do with them. HHH v. Taker, HHH v. Brock, Rock v. Cena, Cena v. Rock. They should be taking the opportunity to show that some of their current top talent (let's take Punk for example) can hang/beat these massive names from the past whilst they've got these extra eyes on the show.

The aforementioned matches are great for that epic match feeling on PPV but, like Tony is trying to say, what happens afterwards?

Having Cena beat Rock/Brock is all well and good but were they wins he really needed as the top guy/"only real main eventer on the full time roster"? Meanwhile, Punk lost to Rock and Taker in 3 back-to-back PPVs, then lost to Lesnar.

I imagine it's hard for casual fans who tune in for these big names to see the current guys on the same level if they are losing to them.
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:06 AM   #43
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:29 AM   #44
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No problem. Though you are way off the mark that the sole reason buyrates are down due to the part-timers.
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Old 11-18-2013, 11:36 AM   #45
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Defend yourself Whitey, seriously dude. I need to know more about the Rock not being responsible for low buy rates.
Like everyone else is saying the Rock brings more attention to the product, he isn't responsible for the booking, the low buy rates are a product of shitty booking, not really sure what else you expect me to say, he's holding back Bo Dallas and that's the real issue here?
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Old 11-18-2013, 11:52 AM   #46
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Old 11-18-2013, 06:30 PM   #47
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Like everyone else is saying the Rock brings more attention to the product, he isn't responsible for the booking, the low buy rates are a product of shitty booking
Exactly. And not the product of a guy who brings GREAT buyrates. It's insane that this needs to even be explained. lol
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Old 11-18-2013, 07:42 PM   #48
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Not only is Rock NOT responsible for the low ratings, maybe the shitty booking is the reason he decided not to worry about telling them until late in the day that he was injured and wasn't going to be at the post-WM RAW as scheduled.

I could easily see Rock saying, screw this, the booking and planning is so horrible right now, I've done all I can do for the time being until the booking improves, I've got other obligations, now I've injured myself trying to help out and I don't owe anyone anything.
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:41 AM   #49
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All this talk about buyrates and ratings.

How do people feel the matches/programmes went? Did you enjoy the matches from a technical standpoint? From a spectacle standpoint? Did you enjoy the promos/skits/angles? How did you like Cena/Rock as a fan of the wrestling show not the wrestling business?

After all, isn't that what Fox was getting at in the OP?
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Old 11-19-2013, 09:06 PM   #50
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It was great from an entertainment standpoint. Anticipation for matches is lacking in wrestling today when everyone faces everyone else all the time and even in month long feuds, guys are fighting weekly. It was nice to have a feud build over the span of years. You don't get that nowadays. Rock being part-time actually forced WWE's hand to do some good old school booking.
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Old 11-19-2013, 10:07 PM   #51
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Was it the most entertaining feud Rock's been in? No and I think that's pretty obvious. Given the uniqueness of the situation, Rock's part time, shitty booking and the fact that there was a weird lack of a clear heel/face dynamic, etc., to say it was a disappointment or not entertaining I think is a stretch. A lot of the problem with the feud to me was both of them playing faces. With only a few execptions, Cena played the over the top baby face often lacking the charisma, intensity and energy needed in a superstar face vs face feud.
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Old 12-01-2013, 12:38 AM   #52
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Old 12-01-2013, 04:51 AM   #53
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Lol Asian. When you walk into a wall what hits first your dick or calculator?
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Was I the only one who really enjoyed Rock vs. Cena II? The first one wasn't bad by any stretch either.
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I don't think either one was as horrendous as people make them out to be.
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It's because the fat gelatinous smarks were still crying that Punk lost to the Rock.
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