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Old 02-26-2014, 02:42 PM   #41
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Old 02-26-2014, 03:46 PM   #42
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Yeah, they were the highest rated segment on TNA...Which had garbage ratings.

Biggest Piece of shit on Turd island is still a piece of poopy.

There is no main stream or wide spread demand for Womens Wrestling.
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Old 02-26-2014, 03:47 PM   #43
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Lets be honest...the TNA Knockouts pulling a .8 rating wasnt good business. It was 5 skanks in a ring and the type of trash people that watch spike TV stopping on that channel as they flipped through when they saw the Beautiful people looking like Tuesday night strippers in the ring.

No one was "watching the wrestling".

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Old 02-26-2014, 04:45 PM   #44
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Lets be honest...the TNA Knockouts pulling a .8 rating wasnt good business. It was 5 skanks in a ring and the type of trash people that watch spike TV stopping on that channel as they flipped through when they saw the Beautiful people looking like Tuesday night strippers in the ring.

No one was "watching the wrestling".

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Old 02-26-2014, 10:41 PM   #45
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Okay, nice rack...but them puppies aren't enough to justify that fucking stupid gimmick. Get a prostitute already guys, jeez. Just buy some pussy is alls I'm saying.
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The only thing with that is that Emma's gimmick is part of what makes her great. When Chris Jericho dumped the Y2J thing, it was because it had long expired and it was time for his look and attitude to change. Right now, Emma just needs time to warm up. Working within the WWE paradigm of what they have set for character, I think I'd rather see Emma get a new boyfriend, which can lead to some hilarious backstage segments with Santino being jealous and what have you. If the guy is a wrestler, then they can have a few matches with Santino. Eventually, Santino brings in his new girlfriend to do battle with Emma.

Give Emma proper feuds and storylines. Fuck, put her on the fast lane to the Divas Championship and move emphasis away from her quirky characteristics and onto where they should be -- on whether or not she can out-wrestle AJ Lee.
Noid, get a goddam booking job already bro! love reading your synopsis.

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Think its funny that people are bitching about Emma are the same who bitched because all WWE did for the Divas division was bring in models who had no background in wrestling because they concerned more about looks than talent and figured they could eventually figure out the wrestling part.
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Haters gonna hate. Especially when basement dwelling virgins are talking about women in wrestling.
I OWN a basement...the only thing that 'dwells' in there are my stock wheels, a dining room table I don't need/use and maybe a snake...I'm kinda scared of my basement. May need to finish that fucking thing off.
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Old 02-26-2014, 11:01 PM   #46
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Australian accent is hot, great body, she is funny and she was trained by Lance Storm. What else would we need?
A decent gimmick.
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.....at least its a gimmick though 90% of the divas don't have one.
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Old 02-26-2014, 11:05 PM   #48
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Maybe her wrestling will turn me around on the character but I haven't seen anything great so far from her.
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Old 02-27-2014, 12:02 AM   #49
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I remember I actually ordered a TNA PPV where Gail Kim and Awesome Kong were having a match. The girl I was seeing at the time (who couldn't stand the way the girls were treated in the WWE) watched it and said "That was actually really good." One of the stupidest directives of the Hulk Hogan era in TNA was choosing Bubba the Love Sponge over Awesome Kong and reducing the Knockouts Division to the same stereotypes that the WWE Divas Division is still trying to claw its way out of -- and that is the stuff that Hanso is right to criticize the worth of.

You can also criticize the ratings they got by comparing them to the WWE, but the highest ratings in TNA were the highest ratings in TNA. More people were watching Gail Kim than Kurt Angle at one point. It may have been the freshness of the division, sure, but that's the way it went.

The two things that I think would make the main roster Divas Division worth investing attention in (as a fan), is a) using women who can wrestle, and b) character.

AJ Lee
Natalya
Paige
Emma
Becky Lynch
Tamina Snuka
Summer Rae
Naomi

That's the most colorful the division has looked in a long, long time. I'd like to see two joshi added to the roster. You can't saturate the roster with them, but having one plucky babyface who wears bright colors is bound to get over. You can also have a girl like Hamada come in as a powerful heel for girls like Emma and Paige to go on the defensive against.

I've also been a big supporter of bringing in a female masked character. I can't suggest any names, but I think having the female equivalent of a Rey Mysterio would be absolutely fantastic when it comes to captivating the attention of the demographic the WWE is after. The usual shtick of "I bet you're ugly under that mask," is the cliched writing the WWE likes even for its male heels to use, but could be used by bitchy female heels to lend sympathy to her side. Imagine if the girl under the mask was absolutely gorgeous?
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Oh, and hire Saraya to beat up her daughter for a few weeks. People will get into that storyline. After she's done being a heel on the main roster, you can have her go down to NXT and beat up a few face girls there. Then she can work as a trainer.
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Old 02-27-2014, 12:10 AM   #51
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I like Emma she has that kinda awkward and clumsy but cute girl thing goin on
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That's what they're going for, but I think they need to downplay the clumsiness and not go so OTT. Just have her awkward ring entrance and her dancing -- which she doesn't need to do ALL the time! For her ring intro and when she lowers into the Emma Lock is fine. If she wins her match, then have her do it with kids or at ringside with fans.
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Really, she should have debuted with 3MB. Let her "dance" and "awkward/cute" nature begin to catch on with the fans... and thus 3MB begins to treat her like trash... leading to an eventual turn for Emma as she strikes out on her own.
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Old 02-27-2014, 08:16 AM   #55
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There never has. The most over divas ever in sunny sable and trash were all sexualized and people didn't care about their wrestling. They just wanted a sexy woman to come out so they could rub themselves down while dreaming about tongue darting trish stratus' fart box
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I remember making a post that I'm worried that wrestlers in NXT won't translate well over to the main roster because NXT crowds are basically ROH-lite. Emma may fall into that.
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Really, she should have debuted with 3MB. Let her "dance" and "awkward/cute" nature begin to catch on with the fans... and thus 3MB begins to treat her like trash... leading to an eventual turn for Emma as she strikes out on her own.
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I remember making a post that I'm worried that wrestlers in NXT won't translate well over to the main roster because NXT crowds are basically ROH-lite. Emma may fall into that.
I thought that Bray Wyatt wouldn't catch on with the main roster at first, because I thought that the fans would do nothing but "WHAT?" him.
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I thought that Bray Wyatt wouldn't catch on with the main roster at first, because I thought that the fans would do nothing but "WHAT?" him.
There's guys like Wyatt where I thought "there's no way he won't catch on", there's people like Emma and Tyler Breeze who I love but think "it might not translate over" and then there's Bo Dallas lol.

The problem with NXT is that it has an "indy feel" to it. Jim Cornette said about Kevin Steen "he's a great champ if you want to sell out a rec centre". I have that same feeling about some of the talent. Emma included. I really hope she catches on.
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Breeze feels like a better Ziggler. But then I hate Ziggler. If he would learn to stop over selling everything I might enjoy him. He combines the few bad part of Curt Hennig and Shawn Michaels. Emma just UGH.
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The problem with NXT is that it has an "indy feel" to it. Jim Cornette said about Kevin Steen "he's a great champ if you want to sell out a rec centre". I have that same feeling about some of the talent. Emma included. I really hope she catches on.
The thing wit NXT, though, is it's still very much a WWE product, from the opening, to the match style/promos/segments/music. The fan base is still a WWE fan base. If characters can get over in that environment with a smaller WWE fan base, I think that, if done right, like the Wyatts, characters will translate to the main roster.
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I have a feeling guys like Neville and Graves are just going to fizzle out if they get called up.

Emma is kinda one those gimmicks where she needs the whole audience like she did in NXT to get into it or it just looks weird. Love Emma though, even more so than Paige.
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A few smarky crowds should get things rolling in her favor.
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Neville will at least be somewhat over for doing his flippy shit and being a good worker. I honestly believe the WWE wants him to make money, so I think they will do their best to jam him into situations where he best gets a chance to connect. Graves needs to be plugged in. There has to be a plan with him and he needs feuds to give his character a chance to catch on.
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:12 AM   #65
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NXT seems to draw the exact same people to every show which helps the NXT product, but hurts the overall picture in a way. It's hard to describe but I don't think a lot of these NXT wrestlers who have been on the show for a while will connect the same way. The Shield and Wyatt's weren't on for that long so I'm going to exclude them. I think for others like Emma it's going to take a lot longer and I wonder if pushes will be lost as a result. Xavier Woods sure went away fast.
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:23 AM   #66
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If that's the case, then I can see translating the characters being an issue, because, while a loyal fan base is always welcomed, it's not particularly productive to have the same audience watching the same guys week in and week out. Doesn't give you a proper feel for how the characters resonate with the audience. That said, still feel the product being very WWE will only help the ones who have the potential and opportunity to break out.
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:30 AM   #67
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Triple H apparently wants NXT to do a little touring. This is probably part of the reason. I do believe that the WWE doesn't really quite understand the irony of some of its characters though.
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:32 AM   #68
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:39 AM   #69
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If that's the case, then I can see translating the characters being an issue, because, while a loyal fan base is always welcomed, it's not particularly productive to have the same audience watching the same guys week in and week out. Doesn't give you a proper feel for how the characters resonate with the audience. That said, still feel the product being very WWE will only help the ones who have the potential and opportunity to break out.
You know what the NXT arena/crowds remind me of: the TNA Asylum. Same people attended those events week after week.
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:49 AM   #70
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Last few shows on NXT there have been some fans who chant "YAH" at various times (and one guy who has a YAH YAH YAH sign leading them)

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Old 03-02-2014, 12:56 AM   #71
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The TNA crowds had the same issues. Having the same crowds week after week leads to people in the crowd trying to get themselves over ala TNA, or Hat Guy in ECW.
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